EVs... no one wants them!
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Essarell said:
Just had a look on AT, that’s one properly quick car…..if maintenance / reliability / running costs are in line with other EV then it looks like a no brainer (at the one year old price point)…….not bad looking either……..
I tried to keep up with an EV6 recently in the JCW, I don't think it was a GT but big mistake either way.nickfrog said:
Essarell said:
Just had a look on AT, that’s one properly quick car…..if maintenance / reliability / running costs are in line with other EV then it looks like a no brainer (at the one year old price point)…….not bad looking either……..
I tried to keep up with an EV6 recently in the JCW, I don't think it was a GT but big mistake either way.nickfrog said:
Essarell said:
Just had a look on AT, that’s one properly quick car…..if maintenance / reliability / running costs are in line with other EV then it looks like a no brainer (at the one year old price point)…….not bad looking either……..
I tried to keep up with an EV6 recently in the JCW, I don't think it was a GT but big mistake either way.The Model 3 accelerates way harder than the M2 at anything below 80mph.
30-70 is roughly 2.5 secs. Bolting out of a 30 limit is absolutely hilarious and utterly addictive
Edited by LowTread on Thursday 18th April 16:24
FiF said:
I expect the usual sneering responses about poor people don't have to until etc which really doesn't do anyone any favours as it presumes that no sticks will be applied on ICE and fuel to encourage the shift. There will not be and should not be any more carrots, there is no money, which comes back to Matt's basic point.
If no carrots, it needs to be sticks, otherwise "the rich" will go back to buying petrol.740EVTORQUES said:
otolith said:
(For "the rich" read "the middle classes")
And those middle class buyers are paying the new car depreciation to provide a supply of cheaper used cars for the less affluent access always the case.Its part of the circle of (car) life
Don't know, because admittedly sering some very attractive ex demo, pre-reg offers albeit in small numbers. eg 2023 Ioniq 5 ultimate 35k 73 reg. 2024 same 37k
740EVTORQUES said:
JNW1 said:
740EVTORQUES said:
LowTread said:
Find me another 450bhp car with 3yr+ drivetrain warranty that costs 2.5p/mile in fuel that i can pay 300/month to buy, tax, service and insure, that'll i'll own outright in 3yrs
I see that and raise you a 585hp car that costs 2.6p/ mile to run and comes with a 7 year (whole car) warranty…
LowTread said:
JNW1 said:
740EVTORQUES said:
LowTread said:
Find me another 450bhp car with 3yr+ drivetrain warranty that costs 2.5p/mile in fuel that i can pay 300/month to buy, tax, service and insure, that'll i'll own outright in 3yrs
I see that and raise you a 585hp car that costs 2.6p/ mile to run and comes with a 7 year (whole car) warranty…Essarell said:
740EVTORQUES said:
KIA EV6 GT, I actually didn’t comment on finance as I bought it with cash, I’m old fashioned like that. I plan to keep it for at least 7 years (warranty) by which time it will have saved me around £35k in petrol so I’m happy with that.
Just had a look on AT, that’s one properly quick car…..if maintenance / reliability / running costs are in line with other EV then it looks like a no brainer (at the one year old price point)…….not bad looking either……..Just doesn't suit the life at this point unfortunately.
Maybe they will in the future when I can get one for £10k
JNW1 said:
LowTread said:
JNW1 said:
740EVTORQUES said:
LowTread said:
Find me another 450bhp car with 3yr+ drivetrain warranty that costs 2.5p/mile in fuel that i can pay 300/month to buy, tax, service and insure, that'll i'll own outright in 3yrs
I see that and raise you a 585hp car that costs 2.6p/ mile to run and comes with a 7 year (whole car) warranty…I should have put it in "lease speak".
£250/m on a 40+36.
Better?
CivicDuties said:
Find me an Approved Used 2022 reg VW Golf for under £13k:
https://www.marshall.co.uk/used/17366160-nissan-le...
Range, schmange. For someone who hardly ever drives long distance, why would you want to pay more?
I'm on my second Leaf. Had a 24kwh for three years, then a 30kwh for three years, going to upgrade to a 40kwh shortly I think. Reliability issues? Zero. Maintenance costs? Zero. Service costs? Minimal. Fuel costs? Laughably small. Depreciation? No worse than anything else I've ever owned, file under "s
t happens". Range anxiety? Never experienced once. For my daily use around town, school runs, commuting, shopping, why would I want a smelly, noisy ICE. A Leaf is perfect for that.
Yeah, I have another ICE estate car for long drives. 3 Driving licenses in the family, soon to be 4, so we're gonna have at least 2 cars on the drive. But it makes absolutely no sense to have anything other than an EV for most of the miles we do.
So yeah, in reply to the thread title, someone wants them. Me.
If it were me I’d look at the bigger battery model with more power.https://www.marshall.co.uk/used/17366160-nissan-le...
Range, schmange. For someone who hardly ever drives long distance, why would you want to pay more?
I'm on my second Leaf. Had a 24kwh for three years, then a 30kwh for three years, going to upgrade to a 40kwh shortly I think. Reliability issues? Zero. Maintenance costs? Zero. Service costs? Minimal. Fuel costs? Laughably small. Depreciation? No worse than anything else I've ever owned, file under "s
t happens". Range anxiety? Never experienced once. For my daily use around town, school runs, commuting, shopping, why would I want a smelly, noisy ICE. A Leaf is perfect for that.Yeah, I have another ICE estate car for long drives. 3 Driving licenses in the family, soon to be 4, so we're gonna have at least 2 cars on the drive. But it makes absolutely no sense to have anything other than an EV for most of the miles we do.
So yeah, in reply to the thread title, someone wants them. Me.
But I picked up a Tekna with 10k miles on it for £13k.
Essarell said:
740EVTORQUES said:
KIA EV6 GT, I actually didn’t comment on finance as I bought it with cash, I’m old fashioned like that. I plan to keep it for at least 7 years (warranty) by which time it will have saved me around £35k in petrol so I’m happy with that.
Just had a look on AT, that’s one properly quick car…..if maintenance / reliability / running costs are in line with other EV then it looks like a no brainer (at the one year old price point)…….not bad looking either……..LowTread said:
JNW1 said:
LowTread said:
JNW1 said:
740EVTORQUES said:
LowTread said:
Find me another 450bhp car with 3yr+ drivetrain warranty that costs 2.5p/mile in fuel that i can pay 300/month to buy, tax, service and insure, that'll i'll own outright in 3yrs
I see that and raise you a 585hp car that costs 2.6p/ mile to run and comes with a 7 year (whole car) warranty…I should have put it in "lease speak".
£250/m on a 40+36.
Better?
https://archive.ph/vqac6
Not sure if this has been put up already, it's a DT article about sales in Europe of EVs.
Not sure if this has been put up already, it's a DT article about sales in Europe of EVs.
borcy said:
https://archive.ph/vqac6
Not sure if this has been put up already, it's a DT article about sales in Europe of EVs.
i'm going to have a stab in the dark that you didn't post similar when EV sales were on the up?Not sure if this has been put up already, it's a DT article about sales in Europe of EVs.
it's like the uptake of any new concept/ technology, never a smooth curve. this one is way more complicated than normal too.
Edited by tamore on Thursday 18th April 20:24
borcy said:
https://archive.ph/vqac6
Not sure if this has been put up already, it's a DT article about sales in Europe of EVs.
Lol, no doubt the EV cultists will again find some way to deny reality. More bullsNot sure if this has been put up already, it's a DT article about sales in Europe of EVs.
t on this thread than the car salesman one…740EVTORQUES said:
It was the air con compressor not the heater that failed, it’s a very different thing.
The additional problem with an EV is that the pipes also run through the battery and so you have to drop and open the battery case.
It’s no different to ICE cars though and is more an issue of education and more availability of independent garages who can fix this sort of thing more cheaply.
^ You say it's different to an ICE car, then you say it's no different.The additional problem with an EV is that the pipes also run through the battery and so you have to drop and open the battery case.
It’s no different to ICE cars though and is more an issue of education and more availability of independent garages who can fix this sort of thing more cheaply.
It's clearly different. If the air-con failed in my car I'd just leave it off and use the car without it. Can't do that on an EV it seems.
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