Road legal rally car

Road legal rally car

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matthewg

1,396 posts

166 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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davepoth said:
All rally cars are, by definition, road legal cars. They have to be to be able to drive between special stages.


As to why you don't often see Focus rally replicas, it's mainly down to the lack of AWD on the production cars.
Type into youtube

"andrew gallacher focus"

Lordbenny

8,590 posts

220 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Here's mine....now sold!


Google [bot]

6,682 posts

182 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Ilike your car history Benny.

Arthur Jackson

2,111 posts

231 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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I'm intrigued by that car. I thought T400 WRC was the Power Engineering nitrous car. Which class did it run in for rallying?? Or did you rally it without the nitrous kit?

matthewg

1,396 posts

166 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Lordbenny said:
Here's mine....now sold!

spec?

GravelBen

15,725 posts

231 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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IIRC its a big power Focus RS with a WRC-style bodykit - not really a rallycar at all.

Mastodon2

13,827 posts

166 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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As mentioned over the page, it's the servicing that would kill the idea of a rally car for road use. Sure, you could normal road tyres on, and brakes that heat up at lower speeds to make it safer to use in traffic, but if you kept the engine pure WRC spec it would need to be serviced a lot. Replacement parts will cost mega money too. I remember reading about the turbos that WRC cars use, iirc they are built from titanium to make them stronger and more heat resistant, costing £8000 or more for a unit, and each team generally has to replace the turbo in each car more than once. So I'd give it perhaps a couple of months use on the road before it needs replacing, if that!

I'd still love a rally car for the road. If I was super rich I'd have a Peugeot 205 T16 built, give it tyres and brakes that worked on the road and leave the crashy suspension, super-loud exhaust, lack of silencing and lack of comfort as it was on the car back in the day. There is a video on youtube of an older rally star driving a T16 on public roads, though he is tootling along at best! It's still a cool fantasy, even if it really should stay a fantasy.

Flintstone

8,644 posts

248 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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matthewg said:
Lordbenny said:
Here's mine....now sold!

spec?
Can't you read the shopping list? rolleyes






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Baryonyx

18,010 posts

160 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Sam_68 said:
Honestly: for the daily grind, give me a nice little mainstream hot hatch back or an MX5, any day.
I'd go with that too! I love the idea of a rally/road crossover like a Subaru Impreza or a Lancer Evolution but anyone can see that a 'proper' rally car would be a nightmare on the road. I mean, the Lancer Evolution servicing intervals are bad enough!

matthewg

1,396 posts

166 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Flintstone said:
Can't you read the shopping list? rolleyes






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Pardon me?

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

200 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Lordbenny said:
Here's mine....now sold!

Was that the one Msport built?

volturb40

104 posts

182 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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matthewg said:
Pardon me?
I think he's referring to the stickers on the door smilesmile

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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John D. said:
Jayho said:
davepoth said:
All rally cars are, by definition, road legal cars. They have to be to be able to drive between special stages.

As to why you don't often see Focus rally replicas, it's mainly down to the lack of AWD on the production cars.
Reminds me... aren't rally cars suppose to adhere to the speed limit and legal road laws during certain stages? AKA if a council decided to to plop a speed camera on a special stage and teh rally car was going over the said speed limit of the road would = speeding?
rofl
Why is that funny? It happened in 2003 - McRae, Makinen, Sainz, Burns and 16 others from the WRC got nicked for speeding between stages.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3108065.stm

ETA - I should have read the post properly - Doh!

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 3rd April 16:54

Lordbenny

8,590 posts

220 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Flintstone said:
matthewg said:
Lordbenny said:
Here's mine....now sold!

spec?
Can't you read the shopping list? :rollleyes:
The 'shopping list' was actually a list of some of the parts actually fitted to the car. Unlike a lot of 'barry' cars around at that time the builders of the car put the list on the side to advertise the products manufacturer, they got them a bit cheaper that way! As for being a rally car....It wasn't. It was a replica and wouldn't last 5 minutes on a rally. It was a genuine M-sport body kit (one of two that would actually fit a production Ford Focus)& did have 400bhp, it was built by Power Engineering, see here:

http://www.powerengineering.co.uk/acatalog/Updates...

matthewg

1,396 posts

166 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Lordbenny said:
The 'shopping list' was actually a list of some of the parts actually fitted to the car. Unlike a lot of 'barry' cars around at that time the builders of the car put the list on the side to advertise the products manufacturer, they got them a bit cheaper that way! As for being a rally car....It wasn't. It was a replica and wouldn't last 5 minutes on a rally. It was a genuine M-sport body kit (one of two that would actually fit a production Ford Focus)& did have 400bhp, it was built by Power Engineering, see here:

http://www.powerengineering.co.uk/acatalog/Updates...
Thank you, interesting reading.Great car.

escortcossie

1 posts

132 months

Thursday 2nd May 2013
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why don`t you just put an anti-lag system on your car, some better cooling and stiffen the suspension. there you go

gog440

9,247 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd May 2013
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escortcossie said:
why don`t you just put an anti-lag system on your car, some better cooling and stiffen the suspension. there you go
How odd to resurrect a 2 year old thread as your first post.

vrooom

3,763 posts

268 months

Thursday 2nd May 2013
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ummm i thought rally car has to be road legal regardless.

Slow

6,973 posts

138 months

Thursday 2nd May 2013
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gog440 said:
And the fuel economy would kill you, If i remember correctly the special fuel that was used by the wrc cars is about £15-£20 per litre (if I am wrong it is likely to be an under estimate)
Also every rally car I have driven has no soundproofing, a straight cut gearbox, you can hear every pop and bang, every pot hole, piece of gravel etc, impossible to speak to your passenger without an intercom.
Also they are a bh to maneouvre and in traffic as they are normally have a paddle clutch which is either in or out.
Friends got a fully preped mini 1275.

Striped back to just paint
Fuel cut off
Battery cut off
Roll cage
Dash removed with a piece of flat metal over where it was
Loud as fk exhaust
No heaters or anything

Has a normal gearbox with a race clutch though.
Said he hates it in traffic, he also drives with those big ear muffs that digger drivers use.

So fun on a B road however

heebeegeetee

28,883 posts

249 months

Thursday 2nd May 2013
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Sam_68 said:
Chris Harris is a motoring journalist, whose job is to sell the maximum number of magazines to spotty teenagers and daydreaming wannabes.
I thought his job was to help the motor industry shift as much metal as possible to those who can afford it.

I can't see any reason why the industry would pander to journalists to help them sell magazines to those who can't afford to buy cars.