2024: BTCC chat & discussion

2024: BTCC chat & discussion

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colin79666

1,819 posts

113 months

Friday 15th March
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GlobalRacer said:
I’m still unconvinced about hybrid. It’s doing nothing for emissions and the costs are arguably driving teams away. There is a lack of variation of models now in the grid. This year will be make or break for it.

GlobalRacer

234 posts

13 months

Friday 15th March
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colin79666 said:
I’m still unconvinced about hybrid. It’s doing nothing for emissions and the costs are arguably driving teams away. There is a lack of variation of models now in the grid. This year will be make or break for it.
Are the costs of it driving teams away? From my understanding the hybrid costs less than the entry fee to the series. Hybrid is a fixed fee for the entire year. I expect the damage bills are far higher.

With Toyota, Excelr8, WSR and NAPA line ups coupled with the much higher hybrid power I think this could be a classic season. I'm certainly expecting to see some big variances between races rather than them all being copies of each other.

Speed Badger

2,691 posts

117 months

Friday 15th March
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I'd get rid of Hybrid power, make the teams use the engine of the manufacturer car they are entering, no success ballast, Race 3 is a full reversed grid, last to first with bonus points for the most overtakes.

Milkyway

9,416 posts

53 months

Friday 15th March
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Speed Badger said:
I'd get rid of Hybrid power, make the teams use the engine of the manufacturer car they are entering, no success ballast, Race 3 is a full reversed grid, last to first with bonus points for the most overtakes.
thumbup Sounds good to me.
(And bring back a junior series ASAP)

SpudLink

5,786 posts

192 months

Friday 15th March
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Speed Badger said:
I'd get rid of Hybrid power, make the teams use the engine of the manufacturer car they are entering, no success ballast, Race 3 is a full reversed grid, last to first with bonus points for the most overtakes.
Wouldn’t that quickly lead to a single make series, as all the teams will enter the car with the best engine?

Speed Badger

2,691 posts

117 months

Friday 15th March
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SpudLink said:
Speed Badger said:
I'd get rid of Hybrid power, make the teams use the engine of the manufacturer car they are entering, no success ballast, Race 3 is a full reversed grid, last to first with bonus points for the most overtakes.
Wouldn’t that quickly lead to a single make series, as all the teams will enter the car with the best engine?
Well all the engines would be restricted to make the same power etc. What I'm getting at is it's boring if you just run random car shell A, with random engine B. You need something to get behind, like a Honda with a Type R engine in etc.

GlobalRacer

234 posts

13 months

Saturday 16th March
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Can't see an issue with the engines to be honest. You either use the standard TOCA engine or an engine from the manufacturer. Forcing them to use the engine that came with the actual model being used would create issues as not all the cars actually come with a 2 litre engine.

Milkyway

9,416 posts

53 months

Saturday 16th March
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GlobalRacer said:
Can't see an issue with the engines to be honest. You either use the standard TOCA engine or an engine from the manufacturer. Forcing them to use the engine that came with the actual model being used would create issues as not all the cars actually come with a 2 litre engine.
Go back to a class system... where anything goes.
( Race 3 / reverse grid would be interesting).



Edited by Milkyway on Saturday 16th March 09:35

GlobalRacer

234 posts

13 months

Saturday 16th March
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Milkyway said:
Go back to a class system... where anything goes.
( Race 3 / reverse grid would be interesting).
Oh god no, class racing would be a nightmare for the tv coverage. It's got stupid in club racing with grids of 20+ cars but only a couple in each class.

clubracing

330 posts

206 months

Saturday 16th March
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Colin Turkington is making a one off appearance in the opening rounds of the BRSCC Mazda MX5 SuperCup this weekend at Silverstone. He said he's doing it as a bit of extra seat time as part of his BTCC season prep.

jasonrobertson86

494 posts

4 months

Saturday 16th March
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clubracing said:
Colin Turkington is making a one off appearance in the opening rounds of the BRSCC Mazda MX5 SuperCup this weekend at Silverstone. He said he's doing it as a bit of extra seat time as part of his BTCC season prep.
Mid grid race 1: https://www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=BRSCC/2024/2411...

The Wookie

13,948 posts

228 months

Saturday 16th March
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jasonrobertson86 said:
Is it right that he’s the only Mk1 in a field of Mk3’s?

If it’s correct that’s pretty damn impressive when you look at last years results and see there looks to be a 2 second difference between them

clubracing

330 posts

206 months

Saturday 16th March
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He's definitely in a Mk3 MX5, same as everyone else. Must be a mistake on the entry list.

MX5 SuperCup is very competitive. I think he's driving a car available from the team for 'arrive and drive' hire to anyone, so the car he's driving is likely short of the ultimate pace of the serious championship contenders cars by a few tenths.

jasonrobertson86

494 posts

4 months

Saturday 16th March
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clubracing said:
He's definitely in a Mk3 MX5, same as everyone else. Must be a mistake on the entry list.

MX5 SuperCup is very competitive. I think he's driving a car available from the team for 'arrive and drive' hire to anyone, so the car he's driving is likely short of the ultimate pace of the serious championship contenders cars by a few tenths.
Why? You would think a proper team who have an arrive and drive car can set it up appropriately?

clubracing

330 posts

206 months

Saturday 16th March
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jasonrobertson86 said:
Why? You would think a proper team who have an arrive and drive car can set it up appropriately?
I know the team running the car and they're very good and very professional. Inevitably though as an 'arrive and drive' hire car, it won't have been set up and maintained to the Nth degree like that of the serious championship contenders would, who have a greater involvement in the running of their own car.

SpudLink

5,786 posts

192 months

Saturday 16th March
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clubracing said:
He's definitely in a Mk3 MX5, same as everyone else. Must be a mistake on the entry list.

MX5 SuperCup is very competitive. I think he's driving a car available from the team for 'arrive and drive' hire to anyone, so the car he's driving is likely short of the ultimate pace of the serious championship contenders cars by a few tenths.
I think the best SuperCup drivers are pretty much professional standard. And they know the car well.

oobster

7,095 posts

211 months

Saturday 16th March
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When is the first race weekend then lads, can't be long?

cuprabob

14,627 posts

214 months

Saturday 16th March
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oobster said:
When is the first race weekend then lads, can't be long?
27th/28th April

Dan BSCS

1,175 posts

236 months

Saturday 16th March
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SpudLink said:
I think the best SuperCup drivers are pretty much professional standard. And they know the car well.
Yup. 100%. Very competitive championship. Martin Plowman struggled to make the top 10 when he gave it a crack a few years back.

Hondashark

363 posts

30 months

Sunday 17th March
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jasonrobertson86 said:
clubracing said:
Colin Turkington is making a one off appearance in the opening rounds of the BRSCC Mazda MX5 SuperCup this weekend at Silverstone. He said he's doing it as a bit of extra seat time as part of his BTCC season prep.
Mid grid race 1: https://www.tsl-timing.com/file/?f=BRSCC/2024/2411...
DNFd in the second race 2 laps from the end. Fastest lap should have had him in the top 6ish though on a damp track. 3rd race at 15.40