rx8 VAG 20v motor

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JB!

5,254 posts

181 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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carinaman said:
I thought the 1.8T VAG had forged internals as standard?

They're not forged enough for some?
Only man enough for 3-350lb/ft, depending on what your engine code is.

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

209 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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carinaman said:
I thought the 1.8T VAG had forged internals as standard?

They're not forged enough for some?
Not all forged bits are equal.

carinaman

21,356 posts

173 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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Thank you, it's good to know.

dean350z

327 posts

147 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Any updates on this project? did it ever get finished?

Alias218

1,500 posts

163 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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Going back to the (old) comments regarding forged bits, only the crank and pistons are forged. The conrods are cast.

On cupra.net, the agreed limits are around the 300bhp or as stated between 300-350 lb/ft. Having said this, I wouldn't take a 1.8T anywhere near that as it only takes a coil pack to go (notorious on 1.8Ts), a heavy load and the wrong gear or a spirited boot off the lights for the rods to potentially bend.

I have an AMK stamped 1.8T and it was for this reason I didn't up the power. The extra oomph isn't justified by the £1000+ cost of fully forging the bottom end.

Blair357ci

1,085 posts

209 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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dean350z said:
Any updates on this project? did it ever get finished?
Nope, too much work on so its been put into storage until time can be found to finish it off.

psychoR1

1,070 posts

188 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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Bloke I know has one and is planning to put an MR2 Turbo lump in one......

dean350z

327 posts

147 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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Blair357ci said:
Nope, too much work on so its been put into storage until time can be found to finish it off.
That's a shame...I've got the opportunity to purchase an RX8 with a buggered engine and have been looking at options in terms of a transplant...an LS1 is what really tickles my fancy (have you guys dropeed an LS in the RX8?)but the VAG looked an interesting option.

JackP1

1,269 posts

163 months

Friday 14th December 2012
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Fastdruid said:
I made the presumption this was a private/hobby build, having just realised who 'tinker' is (always odd finding someone on a forum you've met in real life) he probably already knows how to get the VAG engine working with the RX-8 clocks...

Seeing the clocks "stuck" on those numbers, is never good to think what happened for them to go like that!

chrisgtx

1,199 posts

211 months

Friday 14th December 2012
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dean350z said:
Blair357ci said:
Nope, too much work on so its been put into storage until time can be found to finish it off.
That's a shame...I've got the opportunity to purchase an RX8 with a buggered engine and have been looking at options in terms of a transplant...an LS1 is what really tickles my fancy (have you guys dropeed an LS in the RX8?)but the VAG looked an interesting option.
Look at the Hinson supercars website in the USA. They were working on an LS conversion but it seems to of stalled somewhat.

Fastdruid

8,675 posts

153 months

Monday 17th December 2012
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JackP1 said:
Fastdruid said:
I made the presumption this was a private/hobby build, having just realised who 'tinker' is (always odd finding someone on a forum you've met in real life) he probably already knows how to get the VAG engine working with the RX-8 clocks...

Seeing the clocks "stuck" on those numbers, is never good to think what happened for them to go like that!
They're not 'stuck', that's what I 'told' them to do...

dean350z

327 posts

147 months

Monday 17th December 2012
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chrisgtx said:
dean350z said:
Blair357ci said:
Nope, too much work on so its been put into storage until time can be found to finish it off.
That's a shame...I've got the opportunity to purchase an RX8 with a buggered engine and have been looking at options in terms of a transplant...an LS1 is what really tickles my fancy (have you guys dropeed an LS in the RX8?)but the VAG looked an interesting option.
Look at the Hinson supercars website in the USA. They were working on an LS conversion but it seems to of stalled somewhat.
I wonder what happened there?, they seemed to be making great progress but then nothing from their last update in July last year.

renorti

727 posts

197 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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nice conversion, better engine than mazada's rotary .
there were more rx8's breaking than running rx8's on ebay this week.

dean350z

327 posts

147 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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renorti said:
nice conversion, better engine than mazada's rotary .
there were more rx8's breaking than running rx8's on ebay this week.
That's why I was keen as mustard to find out about this conversion, the one I've been offered is in good nick for only £600, throw a few quid at the conversion and you'vew got yourself a 280bhp rear wheel drive car...I need to do sme research to see if anyone else out there is doing it.

DuncanM

6,212 posts

280 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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I must be sick in the head because if I had an RX8, I'd want it with the Rotary.

The only reason I haven't bought one is because of the road tax.

I think if I ever sold my Cerbera, I'd replace it with an RX8 and get keep the rotary engine. Lovely cars.

That said, interesting project and I hope it goes well for you.

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

209 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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DuncanM said:
I must be sick in the head because if I had an RX8, I'd want it with the Rotary.

The only reason I haven't bought one is because of the road tax.

I think if I ever sold my Cerbera, I'd replace it with an RX8 and get keep the rotary engine. Lovely cars.

That said, interesting project and I hope it goes well for you.
I think you are more "sick in the head" because you wont buy one due to car tax - its not exactly a big expense in car ownership. What is it, an extra £200 a year over the top of most things?

lycara

21 posts

218 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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If you get a pre 2006 rx8 you pay less tax same amount as my old mk2 mx5 smile

DuncanM

6,212 posts

280 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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lycara said:
If you get a pre 2006 rx8 you pay less tax same amount as my old mk2 mx5 smile
Are you sure? Looking online it looks like it'll be £475 a year...

DuncanM

6,212 posts

280 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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RobCrezz said:
I think you are more "sick in the head" because you wont buy one due to car tax - its not exactly a big expense in car ownership. What is it, an extra £200 a year over the top of most things?
Well not really in my situation. I already have the Cerb as a 'special' car so I would be buying the RX8 for going to work/running about in.

The RX8 is already well known for being thirsty, that and the high tax bill makes it too expensive to run as my second car.

STW2010

5,745 posts

163 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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DuncanM said:
lycara said:
If you get a pre 2006 rx8 you pay less tax same amount as my old mk2 mx5 smile
Are you sure? Looking online it looks like it'll be £475 a year...
Lycara is correct. I had a pre-2006 RX8 and paid around half of the top tax price (so around £220 per year IIRC).