rx8 VAG 20v motor

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tinker-27

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835 posts

224 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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hi im doing a conversion on a rx8 with a VAG 20 motor (audi TT) , not many pics at the moment but nearlt finished the adapter plate to the rx8 gearbox and getting the flywheels made . this one is a standard 210 motor just with a remap and front mount intercooler , i will do a bigger power one when i get it all working should make a nice car !!




MrWhippy

74 posts

150 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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Thats the 2nd build thread ive seen in the same number of weeks doing this conversion! And both companies in Brum too.

An excellent idea, and will no doubt be a popular choice given the quality of your work, the cost of dead RX8's and availability of Vag turbo engines.

mmcd87

626 posts

203 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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Ace project. Are the RX8 gearboxes pretty strong then?

tinker-27

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835 posts

224 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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yes i wonder where he got he idea from !!!!!! , the boxes are strong , 6 speed will take 500 no probs

PhillipM

6,523 posts

189 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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mmcd87 said:
Ace project. Are the RX8 gearboxes pretty strong then?
Depends, they'll take a lot of power, but they do tend to kill the selectors even on standard 'boxes.

T16OLE

2,946 posts

191 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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tinker-27 said:
hi im doing a conversion on a rx8 with a VAG 20 motor (audi TT) , not many pics at the moment but nearlt finished the adapter plate to the rx8 gearbox and getting the flywheels made . this one is a standard 210 motor just with a remap and front mount intercooler , i will do a bigger power one when i get it all working should make a nice car !!

Thats a fantastic idea IMO!

Dift

1,621 posts

227 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Excellent, idea.

Genuinely keep us posted. There is a distinct lack of "2 child" friendly sporty RWD cars.

Plus being a VAG man at heart, a nice 270/300bhp RX8 would be perfect!

Very interested and curious, well done to all involved, and the man with the original idea.

bmthnick1981

5,311 posts

216 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Interesting conversion, be nice to see a finished prodct - could be popular.

daz4m

2,908 posts

195 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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PhillipM said:
Depends, they'll take a lot of power, but they do tend to kill the selectors even on standard 'boxes.
I had crunching on my old one, unmodified. I suspected the clutch though?

Do you have any more details on this?

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

208 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Interesting conversion! I like it.

Cant help thinking a Honda S2000 F20C motor (or a CTR K20A if it could be mated to the rx8 gearbox) would be more suited?

Dift

1,621 posts

227 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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RobCrezz said:
Interesting conversion! I like it.

Cant help thinking a Honda S2000 F20C motor (or a CTR K20A if it could be mated to the rx8 gearbox) would be more suited?
I imagine there is a noticable difference in price and availability between the K20 engines, and the common as muck Vag 1.8T

vrooom

3,763 posts

267 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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I ewant do RX8 with mazda MPS engine. I keep reading about RX8 conversion.. sooo tempting..

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

208 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Dift said:
RobCrezz said:
Interesting conversion! I like it.

Cant help thinking a Honda S2000 F20C motor (or a CTR K20A if it could be mated to the rx8 gearbox) would be more suited?
I imagine there is a noticable difference in price and availability between the K20 engines, and the common as muck Vag 1.8T
Yeah good point!

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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What's the weight differential between a VAG 1.8T and the RX8's wankel?

stabbed rat

2,208 posts

175 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Podie said:
What's the weight differential between a VAG 1.8T and the RX8's wankel?
That was my first thought too. If it is very little then it looks like a perfect swap.

daz4m

2,908 posts

195 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Perfect swap, I'm not so sure. What the VAG lump makes up for in torque it lacks in character, aren't you just creating a japanese 330 coupe.

I'd be interested to know how far back you can push the 1.8T because the thing with the wankel was that most of the weight was pushed behind the front wheels iirc. Even if the 1.8T lump weighs the same the distribution may change and therefore the way the car handles.

Still overall the tuning aspect of the engine is interesting and its nice to see. Please keep us updated.

martin-reyland

40 posts

178 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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tinker-27 said:
yes i wonder where he got he idea from !!!!!! , the boxes are strong , 6 speed will take 500 no probs
I'd been asked to fit a VAG engine to an RX8 by the kit car guys in the unit accross the way ages before I heard about what you were doing Craig but the guy bailed out, the reason he asked us was because we specialise in fitting the VAG 20v engine to non VAG cars and have supplied kits all over the world for a few years now (MG ZR, MG ZS, Rover 620, Rover 100 eeek!! and not forgetting the Elise and Exiges), it was only when the twins mentioned how cheap they were after you'd bought one that I started looking on egay and bought a couple. I was actually told you were fitting an LS to yours! Anyhow it will be interesting to see how we both tackle it :-)



Rover 200 (shorter ign leads were on order!!)



Not sure how tinker is mounting his but the front of the timing belt cover sits behind the centreline of the front wheels on my car.

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tinker-27

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835 posts

224 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Hi Martin , I don't think the car warrants a Ls motor as I costs to much , the vag motor should work well I hope !!!

martin-reyland

40 posts

178 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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tinker-27 said:
Hi Martin , I don't think the car warrants a Ls motor as I costs to much , the vag motor should work well I hope !!!
I agree with you to some extent but my Firenza didn't warrant an LS2 either but I still wanted it and fitted one in !

The VAG engine will work great and because it's really short compared to other 4 pots makes it the only sensible choice given the tight space (lengthwise) we have to work with.

Edited by martin-reyland on Tuesday 10th January 18:52

fridaypassion

8,568 posts

228 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Very interested in this. I owned an RX8 and everything about that car is superb apart from the engine (had to chuckle at the dig at the VAG lump not having character!) The most exciting thing about the stock RX8 engine is the excitement about when its going to break.

Are any of these conversions well developed now in terms of reliability etc in the same way the Elise conversions are? What are the costs involved? I have a golf I'd gladly chuck in for a rex with a proper engine in it.