2003 Mercedes W209 CLK55 AMG daily driver

2003 Mercedes W209 CLK55 AMG daily driver

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CLK55

7 posts

82 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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An alignment is something I need to get done on mine as the steering wheel is off centre.

I am envious that you have the standard wheels still, mine have been changed by one of the previous owner at some point and I when I did look for genuine wheels they were stupid money.

One trick you may not be aware of is the passenger mirror dipping when you are in reverse. In order for it to work the passenger mirror adjustment button needs to be pressed in which is just above the switch for the headlights (if the drivers side button is pressed in I don’t think it dips down). If it still doesn’t work then you need to use the directional button so the mirror is all the way down and hold it there for a few seconds, then repeat in the up direction. This basically teaches it where the extremities of the mirror is. If the battery has ever been low or changed you do this process to reset it.

mholt1995

567 posts

82 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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mwstewart said:
Normally I don't like the look of the DTM because silver doesn't seem to suit it, but it actually looks good in Thulite.
Yes - I am recently finding myself more and more drawn to cars in good shades of red! Recently saw a BMW M135i in Melbourne Red and it certainly appealed as something a bit different.

fastgerman said:
MHolt - Very cool that you went to see this in person, I have some Mercedes and Porsche visits on my Instagram here - https://instagram.com/fast_german?igshid=YmMyMTA2M...
Thank you, it was my first time going to Stuttgart full stop, let alone the Mercedes-Benz Museum. Unfortunately didn't have time to do both Porsche and Mercedes so made the call to just do MB and I was certainly not disappointed. Would recommend to anyone considering!

A highlight of the AMG display was a CLS55 with the pre-requisite sunken air suspension biggrin

fastgerman

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1,914 posts

196 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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CLK55 - great tip, works for me cheers! Have started looking at by far the thickest user manual ever. So much tech on a 20 year old car. I also have AMG ground illuminations when the doors are opened.

MHolt - that looks like the C5 RS6’s I viewed haha. The Mercedes Museum is huge isn’t it. Worth visiting the Porsche Museum for the old Le Mans cars.

Gave the roof mechanism and seals some love with these products. Bojo tool for straightening out slightly warped trim. Gummi Pflege to stop squeaking sounds between rubber, glass and metal. Silicone spray instead of WD40 as that dries out rubber and plastics. I now have a quieter cabin smile



Edited by fastgerman on Sunday 12th March 11:53

ND_19

298 posts

179 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Lovely cars.

I sold mine last year. Low mileage, low owner with FSH but cost me best part of £7k in 2 years.

Some general maintenance, others absurdly priced Merc parts and over complex design.

Driver window control ECU was £600 and the Fuel pump and sender at £1300 was the last straw.

Fantastic Car when working though and a wonderful ride considering the performance and handling on offer.

bolidemichael

13,883 posts

202 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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I've copied this from the MBClub for ease:

MBForumClub said:
For the contact at GBR Technology. Tel 0118 982 0567
I’ve ordered Krytox from them because I know Mercedes recommend it and I don’t want to risk an inferior copy which won’t solve anything on my car.
I had the most interesting and helpful telephone conversation with GBR earlier.
First with a Technical Sales lady who emailed me price etc and explained that for business reasons they repackage Krytox as Perflox AS-105 price £44.40 inc of VAT and postage for 30ml. Delivery 2-3 days.
Then 5 mins later a gentleman in Product Support phoned me and enquired of the application and we talked through the why’s and wherefores of rubber seals in Mercedes and BMW’s. He emailed me several past magazine articles which I was hoping to post here but can’t seem to do.
He also mentioned the necessity of cleaning seals before applying Krytox. Don’t use cleaning compounds which leave a residue, just clean soapy water is adequate. Also applying with a finger is often the best way to work Krytox into rubber seal corners which are common causes of noise.
Here's a link to the thread

fastgerman

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1,914 posts

196 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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ND-19 - that’s a shame on your experience. Imagine how much worse it could have been adding hydraulic suspension, a metal folding roof and potentially a supercharger. What was the other 5 of 7k spent on?

BolideMichael - thanks for the tip, I’ve always had good experience with the Purple branded Nextzett Gummi Pflege but happy to try the Mercedes stuff when next needed. The link you pasted above referred to a red bottle gummi pflege from eBay, which looked very different and left a white chalky residue.

Had a quote from Guildford Mercedes at £900 for a B Service + spark plugs + brake fluid. Seems high but the specialists in the area that have listed prices on their websites are coming out at similar amounts. Have heard good things about Mercedes Guildford so booked in.

My 2 car garage at the mo:


bolidemichael

13,883 posts

202 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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If you're in that neck of the woods, the doyenne of the MB Club is within reach too -- PCS Horndean. Of course, being such a popular indy means that perhaps true feedback may be out of reach for political reasons, but everything points to them being a knowledgeable and frugal indy. That is, as opposed to Sandown Guildford (who did my first S211 sunroof recall) who won't necessarily satisfy your enthusiast's urge for first line feedback.

fastgerman

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1,914 posts

196 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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Thanks for the garage recommendation and I may need a specialist if my roof ‘water bag’ deteriorates further around the rear screen. I have to help the canvas seat correctly under the rear window seals, which sounds as simple as some elastic having perished. Good resource here if anyone has similar:

https://benzbits.com/w209/soft_top/ReplaceCanvas.p...

And

https://benzbits.com/w209/soft_top/RepairWaterPock...

I have no leaks at present, my main annoyance is the clonking noise above the windscreen where the roof latches. A great excuse to put the roof down and pick the kids up - the journey is also much more peaceful than in the family wagon.


fastgerman

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1,914 posts

196 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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Just dropped the car back to Magari Automotive in Fareham due to several issues. I’m told the majority will be covered under goodwill and warranty, if so, I’ll be happy.

Issues:
- handbrake doesn’t disengage fully and you need to lift the foot brake.
- roof makes loud knocking noises above the windscreen and doesn’t open and close without some assistance along with perished water bags (material between canvas and rear screen).
- even after new tyres and an alignment, there is a steering wheel wobble at 70 mph, which is not present at 60 or 80 mph. Possibly steering rack related.
- B service needed with spark plugs and brake fluid.
- Loud clicking noise under the glove box for about a minute on start up. I think this is a broken lever relating to the climate control.

What a list huh..

CLK55

7 posts

82 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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fastgerman said:
Just dropped the car back to Magari Automotive in Fareham due to several issues. I’m told the majority will be covered under goodwill and warranty, if so, I’ll be happy.

Issues:
- handbrake doesn’t disengage fully and you need to lift the foot brake.
- roof makes loud knocking noises above the windscreen and doesn’t open and close without some assistance along with perished water bags (material between canvas and rear screen).
- even after new tyres and an alignment, there is a steering wheel wobble at 70 mph, which is not present at 60 or 80 mph. Possibly steering rack related.
- B service needed with spark plugs and brake fluid.
- Loud clicking noise under the glove box for about a minute on start up. I think this is a broken lever relating to the climate control.

What a list huh..
The handbrake is a fairly easy fix, the mechanism under the car where the cables split for each wheel usually seizes.

The noise behind the dash is the stepper motor for the air con. Mine makes that noise too but it’s a big job just to get behind the dash. There’s a couple videos on youtube which has put me off attempting to fix it myself due to how much needs to come out to get to it. Very annoying though to have it clicking every time you start it.

I also had a vibration at 70mph, ended up fitting new wheels and tyres for other reasons and it went away.

trevalvole

1,008 posts

34 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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CLK55 said:
The noise behind the dash is the stepper motor for the air con. Mine makes that noise too but it’s a big job just to get behind the dash. There’s a couple videos on youtube which has put me off attempting to fix it myself due to how much needs to come out to get to it. Very annoying though to have it clicking every time you start it.
OP, if you are going to get somebody to fix this, then I'd advise only giving the work to someone who knows what they are doing and works to high standards, as there's a lot of brittle 20 year old plastic to break and not put back together properly.

fastgerman

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1,914 posts

196 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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Picked the CLK55 up today and Magari did everything requested, very happy with the service. My third train journey to Fareham in a month but she drives like I imagine it did 20 years ago, with no rattles or clonks.

Mpg is drastically improved following a full service and spark plug change, starts better also.

Icing on the cake was entry for the 75 years of the car at Goodwood Sunday Breakfast. Should break up the sea of 911’s.










fastgerman

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1,914 posts

196 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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Not such a fun update this time and wondering which route I should take:

1) formal complaint with request for fix / refund

2) just bite the bullet and take it to a good garage

I’ve had the car for 4 months now and have noticed it’s dripping oil from the back of the engine, there is an issue with the parking brake (I think) making a loud grinding noise, the annoying dash board clicking is back, vibration when reversing.

Now if I had the time, tools and skills it’s potentially just parking brake service, rear gearbox mount and an engine seal probably circa £250 in parts.

Dealer has already said it’s past its 3 month warranty period but I think there is a 6 months statutory rights in my favour now?

Letter template tool here - https://www.which.co.uk/tool/car-problem

Thoughts appreciated.

Thanks

SFTWend

846 posts

76 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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How annoying and frustrating. Does seem to be fundamentally a nice car.

My understanding is that consumer rights only cover you for faults that existed at time of purchase. So you may as well take the car elsewhere for the oil leak and reversing fault.

The aircon and other faults are documented so they should either fix them or take the car back. I think it would be a struggle, even via court action, getting agreement to return the car. Unless its gone up in value and they could make a profit. A compromise might be they agree to pay a specialist direct for the repairs they were unable to successfully complete.

samoht

5,727 posts

147 months

Monday 3rd July 2023
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I have a C55, basically the estate version of the same car, same platform and drivetrain.

It was leaking significant oil from the rear of the engine, enough to trigger it to ask for an top-up, although only through the summer months (presumably as the oil was thinner in the heat).

One indie, Alex Crow, identified it as the rear main crank seal but declined to repair as in the past they had replaced the seal but the leak had returned within a few months, and the car ended up going back to Merc for a permanent fix.

Another, All Klasse, made the same diagnosis and was happy to quote for £1100 inclusive to repair.

In the end I realised that I was parking the car nose uphill on my drive, hence tipping the oil back. I switched to parking on a flat part of my drive, and the problem went away entirely.

So if you're parking uphill it may be easy to avoid, but if it's not that then hopefully the info above gives an idea of what may be needed.



On the wider issue you're right that issues which appear within six months are legally presumed to have been present at the point of sale, unless the seller can prove otherwise. With the oil leak I would imagine it's temperature related hence why it only became apparent in June, so would be hard for them to prove the seal was good when you bought it.

So yeah, I do think you have grounds to ask them to repair or pay for a repair.

trevalvole

1,008 posts

34 months

Tuesday 4th July 2023
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fastgerman said:
I’ve had the car for 4 months now and have noticed it’s dripping oil from the back of the engine,...
Given that oil can appear some distance from the source of the leak, how have you determined that it is coming from the back of the engine? For example, on my C320, when I was having some work done, they spotted some engine oil on the bottom of the transmission. The source was the breather covers on top of the heads which was an inexpensive fix, as would be the cam cover gaskets.

Dcadders

61 posts

28 months

Tuesday 4th July 2023
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Hope you get the glitches sorted, it’s a fantastic car. Far too many will have been maintained on the cheap and completely ragged by owners with no appreciation for what they have.

v8notbrave

30 posts

14 months

Tuesday 4th July 2023
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Lovely, limited other choices for open air V8 and childseat so you have to commit to it. Fundamentals sound good and a 20 yr old car will have niggles. I guess with the margins at this price level dealer may be doing limited repairs if they are self warrantying...maybe get specialist to quote for oil repair then challenge the dealer. Many will naturally try and wriggle out when they can potentially lose money.....

ND_19

298 posts

179 months

Wednesday 5th July 2023
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I refer back to my earlier post. Mine cost £7k in 18 months.

They're 20 year old high performance cars built in an era when mercedes were known for producing highly complicated, sub-par vehicles.

The fibre wiring is example, ECUs in each door for the mirrors and Windows at £500ea, the bespoke fuel pump system, radiator issues, the roof mechanism (boot latches and RAMs), seat air controls and heating. All over designed and under engineered

Don't get me wrong I miss mine and it was a bloody lovely thing, but every month something was wrong. I sometimes wish I'd have kept it.

Now have a slightly newer, less complex Merc.

fastgerman

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1,914 posts

196 months

Wednesday 5th July 2023
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Thanks for the reply guys and I’ve emailed Magari Automotive, waiting on a response.

Regarding the oil leak, the car is parked on a fairly flat driveway - the car doesn’t roll in neutral.

Picture of the dripping oil: