Car life - Japan

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CharlesdeGaulle

26,424 posts

181 months

Monday 31st July 2023
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Interesting thread. I really need to get out to Japan.

Are you a student of Japanese, or learning the language as you live there but studying something else?

LactoseJoe

93 posts

162 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Completely missed TAS every year due to being overseas at that time.

Cool you’ve met Chris Broad, I used to watch his videos before living here. Can’t watch Sam’s videos, they’re too cringe for me. He’s a damn good driver though, met him at R34 Matsuri last year.

You need to get yourself out on track, it’s infinitely more accessible than in the U.K. and a fantastic opportunity to better your driving ability. Plus it’s dirt cheap.

em177

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3,135 posts

165 months

Sunday 6th August 2023
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
Interesting thread. I really need to get out to Japan.

Are you a student of Japanese, or learning the language as you live there but studying something else?
I’m here as a Japanese language student, trying (at least if nothing else!) to learn the language.

em177

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3,135 posts

165 months

Sunday 6th August 2023
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LactoseJoe said:
Completely missed TAS every year due to being overseas at that time.

Cool you’ve met Chris Broad, I used to watch his videos before living here. Can’t watch Sam’s videos, they’re too cringe for me. He’s a damn good driver though, met him at R34 Matsuri last year.

You need to get yourself out on track, it’s infinitely more accessible than in the U.K. and a fantastic opportunity to better your driving ability. Plus it’s dirt cheap.
You’re right I do, although perhaps probably should wait until after graduating. Even cheap track work and student budgets aren’t really compatible!

I’m lucky I’ve had quite a bit of circuit time prior to Japan to amuse myself!

Today was 8/6 day and I pooped over to Suzuka Twin to watch a friend driving. Was a great day out.














em177

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3,135 posts

165 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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The little Roadster continues to impress, however the Japan August heat is really stretching the cars (and my!) ability to deal with 40+ degrees and 80% humidity.

Commuting even with the air con on full is not ideal.

I’ve been debating the idea of an S660 as a toy and going back to 2 cars with something like a Honda N-Wgn as a daily, which will have to some more thinking on this. There’s a company locally which have an S660 on hire fleet, may have to try one for a weekend. Not convinced they will be that useable (despite the fact I’m desperate for one!)

They are very small…



Otherwise the only other update on the car front is I received a new gear knob from Jass performance. I’ve had this same one before one a few Mx5s and they always feel great.

Interestingly even shipped from Europe it was still cheaper (and arguably better quality) than anything I could find new or used here in Japan.

How times have changed.

Stock



Jass Performance Type R (brushed aluminum)


CharlesdeGaulle

26,424 posts

181 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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That's a magnificent knob!

Mudgey

682 posts

175 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Nice! Japan is a place I still haven't made it to yet but it I am hoping to make it there for 2-3 weeks next year, how did reality match your expectations from the place?

How about that! I literally had Chris Broad's book arrive only a few days ago smile

Don1

15,959 posts

209 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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You are a very lucky person. I was in Japan just before lockdown in 2020. As a rather large ex MMA bloke I had fervent hopes and they weren't disappointed.

I hope to return some day.

LactoseJoe

93 posts

162 months

Sunday 20th August 2023
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Mudgey said:
Nice! Japan is a place I still haven't made it to yet but it I am hoping to make it there for 2-3 weeks next year, how did reality match your expectations from the place?

How about that! I literally had Chris Broad's book arrive only a few days ago smile
There’s a lot of hogwash swilling around the internet about Japan. It is an undeniably beautiful country - I place it roughly in line with the the likes of Switzerland in terms of beauty - and the car culture is likely second to none. But Japanese people are an absolute nightmare to deal with. They are brimmed with prejudice, sexism, ageism, racism. The adult males are the worst of the bunch, whilst they act astonishingly like children, they are protected by their strict hierarchy. In my over four years working in Japan, I’ve seen many westerners dumbfounded by their behaviour, with most people leaving and many of those becoming very bitter towards the Japanese. The worst cases are those guys that very quickly fall for a Japanese girl and get a bun in the oven before they realise they hate the culture.

If you ever intend to go for an extended period of time, I highly recommend you read the book, Fear and Trembling by Amelie Northomb - it’s incredibly short, funny as hell (until you realise it’s your life) and took me four days to finish.

PZR

627 posts

186 months

Sunday 20th August 2023
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LactoseJoe said:
There’s a lot of hogwash swilling around the internet about Japan.
You've just added a bit more.

LactoseJoe

93 posts

162 months

Sunday 20th August 2023
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PZR said:
You've just added a bit more.
And you have a different experience? Holidays do not count.

PZR

627 posts

186 months

Sunday 20th August 2023
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LactoseJoe said:
PZR said:
You've just added a bit more.
And you have a different experience? Holidays do not count.
35+ years of experience in Japan, including living there and working for Japanese companies.

Your post comes off as being from one of the whiny, dissatisfied types I have often come across who appear dismayed that Japanese society will not change itself just for them.

And Switzerland!? LOL. Japan stretches from almost Scandinavian landscape in the north to palm tree tropical in the south, with volcanoes, typhoons and earthquakes for good measure. Switzerland has fondue, cuckoo clocks and interesting banking arrangements.

LactoseJoe

93 posts

162 months

Sunday 20th August 2023
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PZR said:
35+ years of experience in Japan, including living there and working for Japanese companies.

Your post comes off as being from one of the whiny, dissatisfied types I have often come across who appear dismayed that Japanese society will not change itself just for them.

And Switzerland!? LOL. Japan stretches from almost Scandinavian landscape in the north to palm tree tropical in the south, with volcanoes, typhoons and earthquakes for good measure. Switzerland has fondue, cuckoo clocks and interesting banking arrangements.
If that’s 35 years working in Japan at any of the traditional entities, hats off to you - I wouldn’t do it. Japanese companies or subsidiaries outside Japan don’t really conform to the same culture as amae isn’t so prevalent. Just in my experience.

Switzerland was a reference for comparable beauty (opinion), not a like for like comparison of the landscape or banking system.

I do know I am not alone in this view. Like I said, Fear and Trembling is a good validation point and an insightful read to anyone planning to come here long term.

PZR

627 posts

186 months

Sunday 20th August 2023
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LactoseJoe said:
If that’s 35 years working in Japan at any of the traditional entities, hats off to you - I wouldn’t do it. Japanese companies or subsidiaries outside Japan don’t really conform to the same culture as amae isn’t so prevalent. Just in my experience.
I don't know what you mean by "traditional entities".

My first job in Japan was with a small company of just 9 staff engaged in imports from Europe. I was the only fluent English speaker and writer and my Japanese was - naturally - very limited at that point. I had to fit in and learn fast. Living with a host Japanese family and socialising without non-Japanese groups certainly helped. No internet, no social media, no smartphones back then. Landline, fax, Telex and post.

I often came across non-Japanese guest workers (many in law or finance) who met up and complained about their lot. My impression was that they expected Japan to accommodate them or give them some kind of priority treatment, whilst seeming unaware that they *were already* receiving it. After a few drinks their own lack of empathy, prejudices and superiority complexes would start to leak out.

Japan is not perfect, but where is? My own home town (London) has changed so drastically in cultural terms recently that I hardly recognise it. Japan will change more and more rapidly with the huge influx of visitors it is now seeking to attract. Some of what I see is not good.





nismo48

3,784 posts

208 months

Sunday 20th August 2023
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
That's a magnificent knob!
biglaugh

em177

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3,135 posts

165 months

Monday 21st August 2023
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Mudgey said:
Nice! Japan is a place I still haven't made it to yet but it I am hoping to make it there for 2-3 weeks next year, how did reality match your expectations from the place?

How about that! I literally had Chris Broad's book arrive only a few days ago smile
As you can see from a lot of the comments, it’s a controversial place to live. It’s hit exceeded some of my expectations and missed on others. But overall it’s been an amazing life experience and something I have no regrets over trying. Relocating anywhere in the world is a huge personal adventure and learning curve.

em177

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3,135 posts

165 months

Monday 21st August 2023
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Had a bit of spare time before dinner and popped into the Mazda Brand Centre in Osaka.

They had something id never seen before, a concept convertible Rx8. Rather interesting to see in a manufacturers space usually filled by the latest model to try and flog.








paulyv

1,022 posts

124 months

Monday 21st August 2023
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I still visit the place but was lucky enough to live in Niigata for a year back in 1999. I still remember this guy hawking the Wagon R all over the place...wonder what became of him.

"GO WAGON R!"

Superhoop

4,680 posts

194 months

Monday 21st August 2023
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em177 said:
Had a bit of spare time before dinner and popped into the Mazda Brand Centre in Osaka.

They had something id never seen before, a concept convertible Rx8. Rather interesting to see in a manufacturers space usually filled by the latest model to try and flog.







Rather than being a concept car, this was actually made for use at a parade for the local baseball team that are sponsored by Mazda.. the parade also featured Mazda 6 for door sedan convertible..

jamesson

3,006 posts

222 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Fascinating country. I was lucky enough to visit Osaka a few years ago and absolutely loved it. Of course, a holiday is rather different to living there, but I found the Japanese to be overwhelmingly polite and friendly. Just knowing how to say a few words, smile and bow gets you a long way.

I love their cars too. So many interesting vehicles over the years. Long may that continue.

OP - I enjoy reading about your experiences. Keep it up!