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Schnellmann
Original Poster
1,210 posts
73 months
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pistolp said: Shame was in Lausanne in it about a month ago. You could have had a shot. Honestly though you don't need to try it, you wont be disappointed. I would marry Elle McPherpson without road testing her first! Another good point! I think if I can get over the first two hurdles I would take the risk on not having driven one. In fact part of me has started to think that perhaps I should wait so that my first drive of an F40 is in my own F40. So, I can start work on my wife on 1st Jan, will find out about my bonus end of Feb and can then see if a suitable F40 comes up for sale in Switzerland....
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leeGT2
192 posts
28 months
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I reckon within about 5 years time, I can see the F40s nearing the £1m mark. Prices are rising so quickly on them and it's the ultimate classic with modern performance rivalling supercar. A true icon
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Camlet
301 posts
18 months
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Schnellmann said: pistolp said: Shame was in Lausanne in it about a month ago. You could have had a shot. Honestly though you don't need to try it, you wont be disappointed. I would marry Elle McPherpson without road testing her first! Another good point! I think if I can get over the first two hurdles I would take the risk on not having driven one. In fact part of me has started to think that perhaps I should wait so that my first drive of an F40 is in my own F40. So, I can start work on my wife on 1st Jan, will find out about my bonus end of Feb and can then see if a suitable F40 comes up for sale in Switzerland.... Yes, do keep the first drive for your own! The nearest thing I can compare the experience to (motor specific  ) was the time I drove my newly acquired 10th hand battered Mini 1000 round Hyde Park Corner for the first time, the evening I passed my driving test. One of the moments you just can't forget. My first drive in an F40 was in my own car. For the first few miles my heart rate was through the roof. But as you kind of settle fear begins to be replaced by wonder. Pistolp's excellent description covers everything; the first drive of an F40 in your own F40 is the dogs b  ks.
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AndrewD
4,311 posts
153 months
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leeGT2 said: I reckon within about 5 years time, I can see the F40s nearing the £1m mark. Prices are rising so quickly on them and it's the ultimate classic with modern performance rivalling supercar. A true icon You might be right, but don't forget they are fairly ubiquitous and we've been there before with F40 prices. Jim Glickenhaus calculated an F40's price nowish has barely kept pace with inflation. I think they're great but they wouldn't be something I'd contemplate at current prices as an investment. But who knows about any car.
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Camlet
301 posts
18 months
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AndrewD said: leeGT2 said: I reckon within about 5 years time, I can see the F40s nearing the £1m mark. Prices are rising so quickly on them and it's the ultimate classic with modern performance rivalling supercar. A true icon You might be right, but don't forget they are fairly ubiquitous and we've been there before with F40 prices. Jim Glickenhaus calculated an F40's price nowish has barely kept pace with inflation. I think they're great but they wouldn't be something I'd contemplate at current prices as an investment. But who knows about any car. Doesn't it depend on which F40? To your point, they are fairly ubiquitous however there is already a significant price range given spec, use and mileage. I also know a few US punters who are looking at very clean Euro spec F40's now the 25 year import limitation has fallen away.
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AndrewD
4,311 posts
153 months
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Camlet said: Doesn't it depend on which F40? To your point, they are fairly ubiquitous however there is already a significant price range given spec, use and mileage. I also know a few US punters who are looking at very clean Euro spec F40's now the 25 year import limitation has fallen away. Agree a wide range, but I was responding to a point about F40 prices in general. I don't know where the prices will go any more than the next guy, but I doubt we'll see this as a 7 figure car. Both the 288 and F40 are icons to me but my own personal choice was to spend more and go for the 288. Also a wide price range but IMO more likely to reach better prices over time.
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Schnellmann
Original Poster
1,210 posts
73 months
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For me I'd be just happy to get my money back again on resale (although of course we be even happier to get a gain) as it really about owning and driving the F40 not finding a way to invest.
Interestingly just found out this morning that an F40 that was sold recently here in Switzerland with 4'000 km may be up for sale again (purchaser has since decided he has too many cars already). I know the price he paid (which included new bags, service, getting car registered for use in Switzerland) and it seemed reasonable.
F*** - inner demon at work!
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Camlet
301 posts
18 months
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AndrewD said: Camlet said: Doesn't it depend on which F40? To your point, they are fairly ubiquitous however there is already a significant price range given spec, use and mileage. I also know a few US punters who are looking at very clean Euro spec F40's now the 25 year import limitation has fallen away. Agree a wide range, but I was responding to a point about F40 prices in general. I don't know where the prices will go any more than the next guy, but I doubt we'll see this as a 7 figure car. Both the 288 and F40 are icons to me but my own personal choice was to spend more and go for the 288. Also a wide price range but IMO more likely to reach better prices over time. I'm sure you're right. Can't lose either way. Just been handed latest EVO with comparison between MP4-12C and F40.......should make for fun reading.
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AndrewD
4,311 posts
153 months
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Schnellmann said: For me I'd be just happy to get my money back again on resale (although of course we be even happier to get a gain) as it really about owning and driving the F40 not finding a way to invest.
Interestingly just found out this morning that an F40 that was sold recently here in Switzerland with 4'000 km may be up for sale again (purchaser has since decided he has too many cars already). I know the price he paid (which included new bags, service, getting car registered for use in Switzerland) and it seemed reasonable.
F*** - inner demon at work! FFS just get on with it 
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jackal
9,759 posts
151 months
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I find it curious that the F40 divides opinion so much. Some owners wax lyrical, the other 50% maintain that it was a disappointing experience all in all. Plenty of interesting F40 debates here on PH if you do some searches. Best of luck whatever you do, CS is hardly a booby prize !
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JazzyO
994 posts
50 months
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jackal said: I find it curious that the F40 divides opinion so much. Some owners wax lyrical, the other 50% maintain that it was a disappointing experience all in all. Plenty of interesting F40 debates here on PH if you do some searches. Best of luck whatever you do, CS is hardly a booby prize ! Really? Never heard that before. I certainly wouldn't say that the "F40 divides opinion so much. SOME owners wax lyrical....". I would rather say "MOST owners wax lyrical, the rest is too scared of the car to drive it but still are in awe of it". I've never heard anyone say it was a "disappointing experience". I'll do a search. Onno
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TISPKJ
1,194 posts
76 months
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Camlet said: I'm sure you're right. Can't lose either way. Just been handed latest EVO with comparison between MP4-12C and F40.......should make for fun reading. I thought the better comparison was meant to be the Noble, too many electronics on the MP4 although a fabulous car.
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Camlet
301 posts
18 months
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JazzyO said: jackal said: I find it curious that the F40 divides opinion so much. Some owners wax lyrical, the other 50% maintain that it was a disappointing experience all in all. Plenty of interesting F40 debates here on PH if you do some searches. Best of luck whatever you do, CS is hardly a booby prize ! Really? Never heard that before. I certainly wouldn't say that the "F40 divides opinion so much. SOME owners wax lyrical....". I would rather say "MOST owners wax lyrical, the rest is too scared of the car to drive it but still are in awe of it". I've never heard anyone say it was a "disappointing experience". I'll do a search. Onno +1..........as Moynihan said " Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts "
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Camlet
301 posts
18 months
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TISPKJ said: Camlet said: I'm sure you're right. Can't lose either way. Just been handed latest EVO with comparison between MP4-12C and F40.......should make for fun reading. I thought the better comparison was meant to be the Noble, too many electronics on the MP4 although a fabulous car. EVO found an owner who had both motors. It's a cool read and I'm sure Dennis won't mind a little scraping..... "the McLaren MP4-12C brimming as it is with intelligently applied technology and burning ambitilon makes a very strong case for being acknowledged as the definitive supercar of ourtime. Ironic then that it takes the F40 - feral, unapologetic and rough around the edges to remind us what that capability and competence denies us". From the owner...."The F40 is something else though. I still get the same thrill driving it even just looking at it as I did when I bought it in 2006. I'll take it out on a Sunday morning and when I come back I'm sweating and tingling and swearing and absolutely buzzing. It's an intense rush. Then I park it look across at the others and think Well, none of you are going to do that to me". ..........even at current prices, the F40 is a steal.
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Lambo FirstBlood
592 posts
48 months
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The (only) thing that really puts me off the F40 is that the steering wheel is on the wrong side. it clearly isn't an issue for many owners because no one on here ever seems to mention it. I think I would not get the full enjoyment out of such a raw, light car, changing gear with my right hand, especially in the UK.
Is it just me?
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AndrewD
4,311 posts
153 months
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When I moved to Budapest for a year or so I started competing in the Clio Cup. Worried about the same thing, not being used to shifting with right hand. Soon got used to it. Nothing to worry about
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Schnellmann
Original Poster
1,210 posts
73 months
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AndrewD said: When I moved to Budapest for a year or so I started competing in the Clio Cup. Worried about the same thing, not being used to shifting with right hand. Soon got used to it. Nothing to worry about +1 Now that we have lived in Switzerland for 13 years I find changing with my left hand more unusual - but it only takes a few minutes to adjust to either so not a problem. I would have thought sitting on the "wrong" side when driving in the UK would be a bigger issue, although again, it just needs practice. I'm good at finding excuses for not pulling my finger out and buying an F40 but even I wouldn't use that one!
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JazzyO
994 posts
50 months
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Having a fast car with the steering wheel on the wrong side is highly irritating to me. I've driven the LHD 550 in the UK and the RHD 365BB and Cayman S on the continent. The driving technique is not an issue at all, particularly for me having lived in the UK, South Africa and mainland Europe. I can also cope (just) with having to get out to get the parking or toll booth ticket . But the lack of visibility when sitting behind a lorry on a narrow twisting road drives me up the wall. If I don't have a passenger, I get really irritated. You've got all the power to quickly dispatch lorries but you need to take ages creeping to the wrong side and by the time you can see clearly you're almost head-on with an oncoming car. Stressful.
An F40 in the UK would not be a completely happy experience for me. I'd still do it, though.
Onno
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Schnellmann
Original Poster
1,210 posts
73 months
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JazzyO said: Having a fast car with the steering wheel on the wrong side is highly irritating to me. I've driven the LHD 550 in the UK and the RHD 365BB and Cayman S on the continent. The driving technique is not an issue at all, particularly for me having lived in the UK, South Africa and mainland Europe. I can also cope (just) with having to get out to get the parking or toll booth ticket . But the lack of visibility when sitting behind a lorry on a narrow twisting road drives me up the wall. If I don't have a passenger, I get really irritated. You've got all the power to quickly dispatch lorries but you need to take ages creeping to the wrong side and by the time you can see clearly you're almost head-on with an oncoming car. Stressful.
An F40 in the UK would not be a completely happy experience for me. I'd still do it, though.
Onno I understand the problem but I think it is something you get used to as well. Different techniques also help e.g. staying further back to get a better view (that might be a problem in a normal car as you have further to go to get past but with an F40 acceleration not an issue!).
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