Severe Engine problems!!

Severe Engine problems!!

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FMOB

876 posts

13 months

Saturday 30th March
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If the car has valid warranty on it how did it end up at copart? I would assume whatever damage has happened either isn't covered by the warranty or the car was written off by an insurance company.

Something very fishy going on it.

njw1

2,072 posts

112 months

Saturday 30th March
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FMOB said:
Something very fishy going on.
Hence why I asked if the OP has a HPI report for the car......

hidetheelephants

24,428 posts

194 months

Saturday 30th March
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FMOB said:
If the car has valid warranty on it how did it end up at copart? I would assume whatever damage has happened either isn't covered by the warranty or the car was written off by an insurance company.

Something very fishy going on it.
Not necessarily; it could have been in a deceased estate, sat unused for a period then disposed of by the executor direct to copart.

finlo

3,763 posts

204 months

Saturday 30th March
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Surely the whole point of buying a Stinger is that thumping twin turbo V6!

joropug

2,588 posts

190 months

Saturday 30th March
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woolyg said:
The HPI report on the car was totally clear.
Have you tried VCheck ? It’s 2.99 for the report you’d need to check it wasn’t a write off that didn’t get recorded. It looks at salvage records and auctions etc.


finlo

3,763 posts

204 months

Saturday 30th March
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Have you had a sniff in the filler pipe?

pinchmeimdreamin

9,966 posts

219 months

Saturday 30th March
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finlo said:
Have you had a sniff in the filler pipe?
Weirdo hehe

ChocolateFrog

25,437 posts

174 months

Saturday 30th March
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If you can't do the work yourself and you seem pretty clueless just punt it back through Copart and take the hit.

Who put it into the auction? Private or insurance. If it was put in privately you know its proper fked.

ChocolateFrog

25,437 posts

174 months

Saturday 30th March
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Jazoli said:
To all those saying the car will be under warranty its possible it isn't, if the servicing hasn't been done according to schedule it's highly likely it won't be, and if its been sat in copart for a while it'll be doubtful it will be.

Something is amiss, why was it in copart with only 19k on it? Its more likely its completely shafted, hence the reason its there, buying something from there comes with a lot of risk, a lot of cars are doctored and not what they seem.

Edited by Jazoli on Saturday 30th March 17:31
It's been through a salvage auction, if Kia touch it I'll be amazed.

Buy cars from Copart that are still within warranty, take them to main dealer and tell them its broken.

I could be on to something there.

finlo

3,763 posts

204 months

Saturday 30th March
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pinchmeimdreamin said:
finlo said:
Have you had a sniff in the filler pipe?
Weirdo hehe
Well I am and proud of it!
But it could be a simple case of the wrong fuel.

FMOB

876 posts

13 months

Sunday 31st March
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woolyg said:
Although this thread has felt a bit turbulent for me at times, I would like to thank everyone who has contributed.
I now have a much clearer plan of what I need to do, I have also found a very reputable company I can work with to hopefully get my car back onto the road.
All the suggestions in this thread are on the list below, but both have helped me build a proper action plan. I plan to work through each point in a logical manner from the fuel to the exhaust. I will update the thread as and when I have competed a point until the day I am able to drive my car.

Thanks again for all your input

Edited by woolyg on Saturday 30th March 23:18
The best suggestion on this thread was the 'put it back through copart and cut your losses' primarily as paying someone else to fix cars like this just isn't cost effective.

You might as well be burning £50 notes with a match but best of luck and do lets us know how you get on.

kev b

2,715 posts

167 months

Sunday 31st March
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Two previous posts have mentioned mis-fuelling.

I think, (if the car actually exists) wrong fuel is something that needs to be ruled out before going any further.

In addition if there were pictures of this car, with custard, then the OP might receive more sympathy.

CorradoTDI

1,462 posts

172 months

Sunday 31st March
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Crazy thread... just get it recovered to your nearest Kia dealer and let them deal with it!

pinchmeimdreamin

9,966 posts

219 months

Sunday 31st March
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woolyg said:
kev b said:
Two previous posts have mentioned mis-fuelling.

I think, (if the car actually exists) wrong fuel is something that needs to be ruled out before going any further.

In addition if there were pictures of this car, with custard, then the OP might receive more sympathy.
Yes, getting the fuel checked is my no1 priority.
Ive got the car if you bring the custard we can certainly do some photos as look, as long as you wash it off afterwards.



Edited by woolyg on Sunday 31st March 10:50
Just use a tin of custard, if it’s good enough for JP.


joropug

2,588 posts

190 months

Sunday 31st March
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woolyg said:
Jesus, if I knew now the grief I would have to endure posting this thread, I can 100% assure you there is no chance I would of, sometimes people just type without really thinking about the affect it has on others. Maybe I should just stay away it I cant handle it or the truth as some people with say.
All I wanted to do was post the diagnosis I had received from a diagnostic 'expert' and look for other views before I stripped down the engine myself and yes I have worked on loads of engines in the past. I suppose I got to caught up in the back pressure diagnosis and as somebody posted it could well be a red - herring, time will certainly tell.
Any yes the car does exist, I never realised the story was that far fetched. I didn't realise I was the only one who liked a project, especially on a lovely looking car, but there is no turning back now.
I am going to take the car here and get it properly diagnosed, then take it from there.
https://www.argylediesel.co.uk/
In the spirit of helping I tried to find if the previous owner had posted online and found your Kia owners post - worth adding here that it seemed to be working fine for the first 3 months of your ownership so the copart / reason for sale might be a red herring.

I saw Kia was recommended back then due to the niche nature of the car - have you ever gone or tried to go?

CorradoTDI

1,462 posts

172 months

Sunday 31st March
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joropug said:
woolyg said:
Jesus, if I knew now the grief I would have to endure posting this thread, I can 100% assure you there is no chance I would of, sometimes people just type without really thinking about the affect it has on others. Maybe I should just stay away it I cant handle it or the truth as some people with say.
All I wanted to do was post the diagnosis I had received from a diagnostic 'expert' and look for other views before I stripped down the engine myself and yes I have worked on loads of engines in the past. I suppose I got to caught up in the back pressure diagnosis and as somebody posted it could well be a red - herring, time will certainly tell.
Any yes the car does exist, I never realised the story was that far fetched. I didn't realise I was the only one who liked a project, especially on a lovely looking car, but there is no turning back now.
I am going to take the car here and get it properly diagnosed, then take it from there.
https://www.argylediesel.co.uk/
In the spirit of helping I tried to find if the previous owner had posted online and found your Kia owners post - worth adding here that it seemed to be working fine for the first 3 months of your ownership so the copart / reason for sale might be a red herring.

I saw Kia was recommended back then due to the niche nature of the car - have you ever gone or tried to go?
Yep - this should be the first port of call, 90% chance of a free repair unless it was flood damaged / incorrect fuel / misuse / written off etc

Alickadoo

1,710 posts

24 months

Sunday 31st March
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woolyg said:
Jesus, if I knew now the grief I would have to endure posting this thread, I can 100% assure you there is no chance I would of, sometimes people just type without really thinking about the affect it has on others. Maybe I should just stay away it I cant handle it or the truth as some people with say.
All I wanted to do was post the diagnosis I had received from a diagnostic 'expert' and look for other views before I stripped down the engine myself and yes I have worked on loads of engines in the past. I suppose I got to caught up in the back pressure diagnosis and as somebody posted it could well be a red - herring, time will certainly tell.
Any yes the car does exist, I never realised the story was that far fetched. I didn't realise I was the only one who liked a project, especially on a lovely looking car, but there is no turning back now.
I am going to take the car here and get it properly diagnosed, then take it from there.
Just to prove all the doubters wrong I will post some pics of me towing the car home from the garage tomorrow, but I am sure someone will still find fault.
Ive searched the internet and I can find any 17 Peugeot 3008's towing 19 Kia stingers, so maybe there is hope.
https://www.argylediesel.co.uk/''

Thanks



Edited by woolyg on Sunday 31st March 12:32
Remove the quotes at the end and the link might work.

https://www.argylediesel.co.uk/

joropug

2,588 posts

190 months

Sunday 31st March
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woolyg said:
No the car was dead from the day I bought it, just for all the doubters here is my purchase from Copart,
https://imgur.com/A7ENVgR
Which one is it? I think if it’s been dead from day 1 then yeah it could be anything but if you had 3 months use out of it and it suddenly stopped working you can rule some things out.

Kia Forum September 2023 said:
Hi All!!
I bought a 2019 Stinger GT-Line 2.2 Diesel about 3 months ago and I initially loved my car until now and it just wont start.
It has been in numerous garages now who cant seem to find the problem as it why it wont start.
I have read the thread about the loose wire on the fuse board and been around and tightened all the nuts up none of them where loose, I have checked the 2 fuses in engine compartment (200 & 100 Amp)
I have 2 keys and both have new batteries.
I am obviously pressing the brake pedal when I try and start it.
My car was working fine then one day it would turn over but just wouldn't start. Nobody seems to have a clue what is wrong with it. I am just paying out more and more money to try and get it fixed.

OldGermanHeaps

3,837 posts

179 months

Sunday 31st March
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Its very difficult to try to help someone who doesnt give the full story and tries to jump into all sorts of weird rabbit holes without giving all the facts. You give off a crazy person vibe in your posts. You have had some solid advice but the replies are all over the place.
If it starts on ether then its pretty much fuel system/engine electronics. Visit an experienced diesel injection specialist and dont pickle their brain with action plans and guidance from internet randoms, let them do a logical step by step fault finding diagnosis.
A decent guy will already have more work than he can manage so if you start yammering on telling him how to go about his job he will likely tell you to do one, maybe politely in a roundabout way but nobody wants to work under those conditions. Present the full facts up front, what has been tried so far, and ask what he would check next.

Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Sunday 31st March 13:23

Megaflow

9,430 posts

226 months

Sunday 31st March
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I’d be interested to know who sold it through Copart.

I watched a video yesterday, a bloke bought an Audi RS Q something, might have been a 3, it was being sold by a private individual, not an insurance company. No apparent damage, pictures showed it running, but the owner took an £8k hit by selling it through Copart.

Buyer got it to his workshop, it does indeed run, but number 4 big end was toast and it needs an engine rebuild.

Moral of the story, anything sold through Copart is going through there for a reason. It’s fked.

ETA: I typed this in a hurry earlier and have now read in more detail, owned it for 3 months before issues began is interesting, did the OP confirm if it starts on ether or not?

Edited by Megaflow on Sunday 31st March 17:50