The new Vantage?

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cayman-black

12,648 posts

216 months

Sunday 3rd March
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The new Vantage over the V12? The new one will be faster and the interior is miles better, the V12 has some unique body panels, and a fussy interior.
Under £180k the V12 might be a better bet.

franki68

10,402 posts

221 months

Sunday 3rd March
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LTP said:
I like the exterior choices. The interior might be regarded by some as….brave
That’s very diplomatic .

Davil

302 posts

26 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Went to the preview day last Saturday. It’s such a tremendous improvement over the previous one.

I would never have considered the silver window trim and silver grille, but it really works on this car, sort of retro modern. Also the green leather interior is stunning and the seats really grippy and comfortable as well. The bronze-ish wheels look fantastic in the metal and go really well with this silver.

Base price is AUD$425k (GBP 219k). This spec is AUD$600k (GBP 309k).





AlexT

481 posts

236 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Hi Davil - thanks for posting those pictures. Is that Aluminite Silver...I can't quite tell? I've seen Aluminite in person and it has a slightly warm tone. I am preferring a more classic spec myself for this Vantage - silver window surrounds and grille are the way to go.

The base price should be $410k in Australia. Maybe they included a $15k dealer delivery fee to what you were quoted?

I am glad you were impressed.

Minglar

1,229 posts

123 months

Tuesday 12th March
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I’m surprised no one has replied to this today. That does look rather nice indeed, but £90,000 worth of options. Wow. That’s an additional 41% on top of the list price (in Australia as per the example). To be fair though, LS does like the 40% business model………did they tick every single box?! wink
BRM.

Jon39

12,830 posts

143 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Aston Martin prices in Australia are quite a puzzle to us Brits.
£309,000 for a well specced Vantage !
I tried to find out how it works, but as usual with tax (make it as confusing as possible) probably not easy to fathom.
There is something about a Privileged person purchase, but that might not be describing people who buy Aston Martins, it could be to do with diplomats.

GST seems to be like our VAT (although at half the rate) 10%
Then there appears to be an additional special 33% tax (LCT), applicable to vehicles worth more than about £45,000.

Whether they use the UK double fuel tax trick, I don't know but if so, hopefully the GST is in the calculation before the LCT (Luxury Car Tax), not the other way round.

For every 1,000
GST .......... 100
................ --------
................. 1,100
LCT ........... 363
................ --------
................. 1,463

In the UK it would be 1,000 plus 20% VAT = 1,200.

I still don't know how (UK equivalent) £309,000 is arrived at.

Do the Australian taxes limit the new sales of premium cars ?



Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 12th March 19:48

GT3ZZZ

926 posts

170 months

Tuesday 12th March
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"New" V12 for the win versus new V8.

The new V8 is a lovely thing and I'd have one tomorrow versus a 911. But it has an AMG V8 and AMG steering wheel and lots of other AMG bits. And a fancy new dash and entertainment. Its looks are inspired by the V12.

The V12 has a proper Aston V12, turbo'd yes but sounds incredible and is an occasion every time it's fired up. It has the amazing horseshoe carbon bonnet and fancy front brake duct cooling along with the GT3 style exhaust and diffuser. Proper carbon buckets same as the new one.

The V12 dash and ICE is very dated but who cares if its a weekend ride and not a DD. When did you last hear F40/F50 owners whinging about the stereo lol?


Davil

302 posts

26 months

Wednesday 13th March
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AlexT said:
Hi Davil - thanks for posting those pictures. Is that Aluminite Silver...I can't quite tell? I've seen Aluminite in person and it has a slightly warm tone. I am preferring a more classic spec myself for this Vantage - silver window surrounds and grille are the way to go.

The base price should be $410k in Australia. Maybe they included a $15k dealer delivery fee to what you were quoted?

I am glad you were impressed.
I am pretty sure it was magnetic silver. It’s a lovely paint.
Not sure about dealer delivery but I reckon you may be right.

Davil

302 posts

26 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Jon39 said:

Aston Martin prices in Australia are quite a puzzle to us Brits.
£309,000 for a well specced Vantage !
I tried to find out how it works, but as usual with tax (make it as confusing as possible) probably not easy to fathom.
There is something about a Privileged person purchase, but that might not be describing people who buy Aston Martins, it could be to do with diplomats.

GST seems to be like our VAT (although at half the rate) 10%
Then there appears to be an additional special 33% tax (LCT), applicable to vehicles worth more than about £45,000.

Whether they use the UK double fuel tax trick, I don't know but if so, hopefully the GST is in the calculation before the LCT (Luxury Car Tax), not the other way round.

For every 1,000
GST .......... 100
................ --------
................. 1,100
LCT ........... 363
................ --------
................. 1,463

In the UK it would be 1,000 plus 20% VAT = 1,200.

I still don't know how (UK equivalent) £309,000 is arrived at.

Do the Australian taxes limit the new sales of premium cars ?



Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 12th March 19:48
It is mostly the hideous luxury car tax. “Giving it to the top end of town” as the labor government likes to do. It’s a vicious circle as the options also have to include said tax.

Astons do suffer way less depreciation than the UK though. They can also be driven year round and don’t rust. Maybe that justifies us paying much more. Maybe.



Kerniki

1,874 posts

21 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Davil said:
Went to the preview day last Saturday. It’s such a tremendous improvement over the previous one.

I would never have considered the silver window trim and silver grille, but it really works on this car, sort of retro modern. Also the green leather interior is stunning and the seats really grippy and comfortable as well. The bronze-ish wheels look fantastic in the metal and go really well with this silver.

Base price is AUD$425k (GBP 219k). This spec is AUD$600k (GBP 309k).




Nice cool

Cements my thoughts, those wheels are my first choice and so glad they're an option and away from bloody diamond cut black options vomit

oilit

2,630 posts

178 months

Wednesday 13th March
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I wonder if these new inflated prices will make the value of used AM increase?

RoNNy379CH

6 posts

3 months

Wednesday 13th March
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good question.

I think they have also a influnce to VH based Astons too.

BMWMB

17 posts

78 months

Wednesday 13th March
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AlexT said:
Hi Davil - thanks for posting those pictures. Is that Aluminite Silver...I can't quite tell? I've seen Aluminite in person and it has a slightly warm tone. I am preferring a more classic spec myself for this Vantage - silver window surrounds and grille are the way to go.

The base price should be $410k in Australia. Maybe they included a $15k dealer delivery fee to what you were quoted?

I am glad you were impressed.
It’s Q Spirit Silver.





Edited by BMWMB on Wednesday 13th March 21:10


Edited by BMWMB on Wednesday 13th March 21:12

Jay_Davis

270 posts

178 months

Wednesday 13th March
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oilit said:
I wonder if these new inflated prices will make the value of used AM increase?
I doubt they will increase, but they will likely reduce how much they decrease, except for cars that are only a couple of years old, which are likely to still decrease a lot.

AlexT

481 posts

236 months

Wednesday 13th March
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BMWMB said:
AlexT said:
Hi Davil - thanks for posting those pictures. Is that Aluminite Silver...I can't quite tell? I've seen Aluminite in person and it has a slightly warm tone. I am preferring a more classic spec myself for this Vantage - silver window surrounds and grille are the way to go.

The base price should be $410k in Australia. Maybe they included a $15k dealer delivery fee to what you were quoted?

I am glad you were impressed.
It’s Q Spirit Silver.





Edited by BMWMB on Wednesday 13th March 21:10


Edited by BMWMB on Wednesday 13th March 21:12
Cheers. Looks great.

raceboy

13,102 posts

280 months

Thursday 14th March
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oilit said:
I wonder if these new inflated prices will make the value of used AM increase?
RoNNy379CH said:
good question.

I think they have also a influnce to VH based Astons too.
Well it's certainly not influenced my part-ex values yet, but doesn't appear to have affected values of cars for sale, so all in all a Netzero change. rotate
Obviously 6 months after I sell/buy values of the 'classic' Vantage will sky rocket like a 1of10 Ferrari and values of the next gen car will plummet like a luxury EV SUV. paperbag

bogie

16,386 posts

272 months

Thursday 14th March
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I think the new Vantage looks great, perhaps I would prefer the wheels an inch smaller but otherwise looks great from all angles, inside and out.

Now all I need to do is to wait 3 years for depreciation to do its thing biggrin

pbe624

169 posts

135 months

Sunday 17th March
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New Vantage presentation in Antwerp (B).

Hi all,
went to the presentation of the new Vantage on 16/3/2024. See below some pictures of what was there to see... . The Belgian owner of the Victor also had some of his toys there (Victor, DB5 goldfinger recreation...). He has a great collection including all the recent Zagato versions...

Anyway, did find the DB12 Volante also nice.

Cheers,



Edited by pbe624 on Sunday 17th March 11:12

pbe624

169 posts

135 months

Sunday 17th March
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some more pictures...


pbe624

169 posts

135 months

Sunday 17th March
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and more...