Tesco Super Unleaded

Tesco Super Unleaded

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MrBet

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96 posts

191 months

Sunday 10th August 2008
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I've always filled my E92 M3 up with Tesco super unleaded that says it has an octane rating of 99. In the manual it says use unleaded between octane ratings of 95-98. Am i doing anything detremental?

How do they increase the octane rating? Is it just an additive they put in the fuel.

Neil.D

2,878 posts

207 months

Sunday 10th August 2008
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No, I would imagine that the claimed 99 is just progression of fuel development. It will not do any harm at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_octane_numbe...

Mattt

16,661 posts

219 months

Sunday 10th August 2008
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Higher RON ratings are better for your engine - they will serve to resist detonation (not that your engine should do this anyway) even if the engine management doesn't make use of them.

IIRC the Tesco(/Greenergy) achieves 99RON through use of 10% ethanol - if your engine doesn't mind it then fine.

AFAIK that is.

john_r

8,353 posts

272 months

Sunday 10th August 2008
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My E60 M5 ran like a bag of bolts on Tesco 99, as does my current RS6. However they both love(d) Sainsburys Super!

carl_w

9,216 posts

259 months

Sunday 10th August 2008
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john_r said:
My E60 M5 ran like a bag of bolts on Tesco 99, as does my current RS6. However they both love(d) Sainsburys Super!
Bizarrely, my Z4MC runs like a bag of bolts on Sainsbury's Super but loves Tesco 99!

Vixpy1

42,626 posts

265 months

Sunday 10th August 2008
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carl_w said:
john_r said:
My E60 M5 ran like a bag of bolts on Tesco 99, as does my current RS6. However they both love(d) Sainsburys Super!
Bizarrely, my Z4MC runs like a bag of bolts on Sainsbury's Super but loves Tesco 99!
My M3 loves both hehe

Mattt

16,661 posts

219 months

Sunday 10th August 2008
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Didn't you do one of the fuel tests Charlie?

dan101smith

16,806 posts

212 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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I don't think my M3 likes any fuel, judging by the rate it gets rid of it.

notax

2,091 posts

240 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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Does an E46 M3 need super unleaded or are you using it by choice?

Vixpy1

42,626 posts

265 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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notax said:
Does an E46 M3 need super unleaded or are you using it by choice?
They will run on 95, but do pull timing and hence make less power, mine runs like a dog on 95

Stevo///M3

43 posts

194 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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There was an edition of Fifth Gear programme about 2 or 3 years ago where they tested a WRX STi with Optimax, V Power and Tesco's 99. Each time they reset the ECU, emptied and flushed the tank etc to make the comparison as close as possible. I'm not convinced you'll find the footage now (try YouTube...?) but the results were very clear. The Tesco fuel made substantially more power (I recall it was something like 10-15% more in those controlled conditions). OK, we all have M3s not WRX's but the principle was established. Since then, I've always run my E36 evo on 99 and it is peachy. 95RON fuel won't do it any good for the reasons stated earlier in this thread; equally, there should be nno problem using a higher grade like 99 or even higher if you can get it. My understanding (and this was previously available on a Tesco partner's website when I looked into it about a year ago) is that the Tesco stuff is normal fuel with an additive like race fuel which when diluted with the normal stuff makes a 99RON fuel.
But hey, I'm no expert.
Stevotumbleweed
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jonlwright

1,825 posts

240 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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My M6 devours anything that is put into its tank as quickly as it can.

However, Tesco99 is its staple diet with no problems.

M5 Russ

2,243 posts

193 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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My e39 M5 prefers Tesco 99 to Shell Vpower but never used any other super type fuel.

wpo750

152 posts

193 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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My Evo's staple diet was also Tesco 99. It ran like a bag of bolts on V-Power.

LittleBro

9,453 posts

235 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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Used to fuel my E39 M5 on nothing but optimax or v-power.

My current M3 get Super at wherever I can get it with the occasional normal if its just a steady and long motorway run (read as a weekend away with the missus). I find running on normal makes the car feel like its missing so find its best avoided.

RatBoy M3CS

1,490 posts

197 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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99 RON, is a slower burn fuel, which is why you can run a more advanced ignition curve, it also protects you from detonation which is an engine breaker.. it actually has better expansion properties and does make more power.. specially on the fizzy turbo 4 pots.. mine likes 99 and drinks it like theyre going to run out..!

You can run both equally on the road or track, 99 does have an edge..biggrin the ECU map handles both very well..

I'm not clear if the S54 engine has independant knock sensors and moves the map to get the most out of the fuel, or if it runs a static map..but it does run better on 99 for sure..

Edited by RatBoy M3CS on Monday 18th August 11:28

kds keltec

1,365 posts

191 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Every thing your need is here
Read carefully and you will see the M3 engine loves tesco's 99 ron

40 bhp difference between 95ron and 99ron on a CSL engine

http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/tuning/Fuel_Tes...thumbup

Edited by kds keltec on Wednesday 13th August 18:09


Forgot to say there is a pdf download at the top and bottom of the web page with full size power graphs and test results

Edited by kds keltec on Wednesday 13th August 18:13


Edited by kds keltec on Thursday 14th August 10:07

M15ley

467 posts

270 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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I would take all of the claims of extra power etc with a huge pile of salt (never mind a pinch). Do you own comparisons and work out what you think is best. I certainly couldn't tell any difference between normal 95ron, Tesco 99ron or Sainsburys Super (97ron I think).

RatBoy M3CS

1,490 posts

197 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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40 bhp difference between 95ron and 99ron on a CSL engine

GARBAGE..... trousers down, and 40 strokes with the studded padal for that statement..!

1 stroke deduction for each bhp the fuel gets... but its still gonna hurt plenty....!

Its better for sure.. but only to the tune of 10-15 bhp.. but it does pull harder all the way up..



Edited by RatBoy M3CS on Friday 15th August 11:06

CarbonM5

927 posts

192 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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M5 Russ said:
My e39 M5 prefers Tesco 99 to Shell Vpower but never used any other super type fuel.
+1

I also tried Texaco super which seemed better than Vpower.Vpower is too expensive and makes for a rough overrun.

Tesco 99 is the cheapest and best ihave tried-their 95 is awful though-the bottom end is so rough,throttle response is numbed and the engine sounds less crisp.

I doubt using 99 would be a 40bhp gain though,probably 20 at most.Its a driveability gain more than anything.


Edited by CarbonM5 on Thursday 14th August 20:36