Fancy buying an MP4-12C in an online auction?

Fancy buying an MP4-12C in an online auction?

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spikeyhead

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17,401 posts

198 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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IanV12

8,685 posts

159 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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that belongs (or belonged) to a scrap metal dealer that owed about £20 million in vat

http://www.insidermedia.com/insider/yorkshire/1020...

WCZ

10,559 posts

195 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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8 minutes to decide....

Russell996

494 posts

130 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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WCZ said:
8 minutes to decide....
Gets near finished and then resets to 10 mins to go whenever a bid is placed - this process of adding 10 mins continues until no bids are received in the last 10 mins - weirdest auction ever with no end in sight!

Rollcage

11,327 posts

193 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Russell996 said:
WCZ said:
8 minutes to decide....
Gets near finished and then resets to 10 mins to go whenever a bid is placed - this process of adding 10 mins continues until no bids are received in the last 10 mins - weirdest auction ever with no end in sight!
Not really - it ends when nobody is willing to pay any more. Quite sensible really, as long as you are actually watching it.

Russell996

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130 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Rollcage said:
Not really - it ends when nobody is willing to pay any more. Quite sensible really, as long as you are actually watching it.
Not familiar with this type of movable end auction but clearly it is good for the seller as the period keeps extending and could be good for the buyer as no one is rushed into a spur of the moment bidding race, always 10 minutes to decide. I guess the only downside is if you are a keen buyer you might have to hang around for quite a while for it to eventually finish!

w5pwr

455 posts

191 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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not too much of a bargain if i am reading correctly buyer has to pay 5% fees + 20% vat?

spikeyhead

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Friday 22nd November 2013
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w5pwr said:
not too much of a bargain if i am reading correctly buyer has to pay 5% fees + 20% vat?
I suspect that the VAT is only on the 5% buyers fee.

IanV12

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159 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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at last - £120,150

Victor McDade

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183 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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IanV12 said:
at last - £120,150
So £127k including fees. Not bad for a 2012 2,564 mile car.

marky1

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197 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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What you think they paid for it new?

w5pwr

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191 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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spikeyhead said:
I suspect that the VAT is only on the 5% buyers fee.
Reading the T&C's on their website, not sure that is the case?

VAT Payments and Returns:

All overseas Buyers (EU and non EU) will be charged VAT at the current rate on each Lot purchased. This will be refunded to the overseas Buyer as soon as the Seller receives a copy of the bill of lading as proof of export, providing this documentation is received within 3 months of the sale date. The Seller is unable to refund the VAT on the Buyer’s Premium to non EU countries.

johnnyreggae

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161 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Which part of the lot description is unclear : Buyers Premium 5%. No VAT on the Hammer Price Only on the Buyers Premium

As an aside that seems to be same area that the last couple of auctioned cars have gone at

Geoffcapes

716 posts

165 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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You don't pay VAT on second hand cars. (so my accountant tells me).

The VAT on the 5% fee.


andrew

9,981 posts

193 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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johnnyreggae said:
Which part of the lot description is unclear : Buyers Premium 5%. No VAT on the Hammer Price Only on the Buyers Premium

As an aside that seems to be same area that the last couple of auctioned cars have gone at
and then, just to confuse matters, in the top-right corner it states :

"VAT on hammer: 20.00%
Buyer's premium: 5.00%"


jackal

11,248 posts

283 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Nice in black

22s

6,339 posts

217 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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andrew said:
johnnyreggae said:
Which part of the lot description is unclear : Buyers Premium 5%. No VAT on the Hammer Price Only on the Buyers Premium

As an aside that seems to be same area that the last couple of auctioned cars have gone at
and then, just to confuse matters, in the top-right corner it states :

"VAT on hammer: 20.00%
Buyer's premium: 5.00%"
Yeah. Very confusing.