Steering column thru bulkhead - help please
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Hi
I noticed a weird clanging whilst driving today and noticed steering wheel had a lot of play. Then when I stopped and looked down I saw that the steering column was flapping about in the bulkhead hole. Inspecting the other side in the engine bay, I saw what looked like a plastic bush that had slid down the steering column to the UJ.
Looking in bible I couldn't figure out whether this was a bush type or a bearing and this plastic insert was the bearing centre. Anyway I managed to hammer this plastic insert back into the bulkhead and it has held the column back in place for now. Can I just ask if on V8S's if they use a bearing or bush and also if what I've described is just that this plastic inset has worked loose or whether it sounds like it's broken and I've just temporarily fixed it by hammering it back in?
Hope that makes sense. Probably easier with some pictures which I can post tomorrow if need be.
Thanks for any pointers on this one
I noticed a weird clanging whilst driving today and noticed steering wheel had a lot of play. Then when I stopped and looked down I saw that the steering column was flapping about in the bulkhead hole. Inspecting the other side in the engine bay, I saw what looked like a plastic bush that had slid down the steering column to the UJ.
Looking in bible I couldn't figure out whether this was a bush type or a bearing and this plastic insert was the bearing centre. Anyway I managed to hammer this plastic insert back into the bulkhead and it has held the column back in place for now. Can I just ask if on V8S's if they use a bearing or bush and also if what I've described is just that this plastic inset has worked loose or whether it sounds like it's broken and I've just temporarily fixed it by hammering it back in?
Hope that makes sense. Probably easier with some pictures which I can post tomorrow if need be.
Thanks for any pointers on this one
Never did it myself, but this may be useful: http://www.tvrsseries.com/steering/steering_bush.p...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...
This might help if the bearing is ok you can put a clip on it to stop it from sliding out again
This might help if the bearing is ok you can put a clip on it to stop it from sliding out again
Just a word of warning if you buy a complete bearing/ housing kit; I bought one from a suggested supplier but the housing, which was in turned alum, had the wrong pcd and number of fixing holes. I manage fed to re-use the old housing and the supplier said send the wrong one back for a partial refund...that was about 8 months ago and despite several calls and e-mails where he promised to refund, I still have not got it...
So if you order one, just ask him if the housing has the correct number of holes and see if he goes quiet....
So if you order one, just ask him if the housing has the correct number of holes and see if he goes quiet....
Assuming you still have the original plastic bush, I would get the whole lot replaced. It has transformed the steering on my car. I recently replaced mine on an S3 V6, using the kit from ML Performance Parts. I know I could have got the bits cheaper by shopping around and getting the essential items from engineering suppliers, but getting the complete kit is just easier.
Very easy to do. I followed the guide referenced above. Some words of advice though from my experience.
The finishing on the fibreglass of the bulkhead was very un-even, making it difficult to correctly line up the metal bearing housing. The old plastic one had just deformed to match the profile of the fibreglass.
The blots supplied by MLP stripped the treads with very little force while.
The holes on the bulkhead did not line up perfectly, and needed to be enlarged very slightly to get the housing to fit.
Get yourself some bigger penny / panel washers to use against the fibreglass.
Make a note of the position of the steering wheel, and universal joints if you do not want to have to take everything apart and do it again.
I had to rewire the ignition as a few of the wires decided that they did not like being moved and detached themselves from the ignition barrel and from the spade connectors.
Very easy to do. I followed the guide referenced above. Some words of advice though from my experience.
The finishing on the fibreglass of the bulkhead was very un-even, making it difficult to correctly line up the metal bearing housing. The old plastic one had just deformed to match the profile of the fibreglass.
The blots supplied by MLP stripped the treads with very little force while.
The holes on the bulkhead did not line up perfectly, and needed to be enlarged very slightly to get the housing to fit.
Get yourself some bigger penny / panel washers to use against the fibreglass.
Make a note of the position of the steering wheel, and universal joints if you do not want to have to take everything apart and do it again.
I had to rewire the ignition as a few of the wires decided that they did not like being moved and detached themselves from the ignition barrel and from the spade connectors.
Hi everyone. Cheers for the replies. Clicking those links to see that other people have experienced the exact same thing has put my mind at ease now that the plastic insert just slipped out and bearing is not broken. Seems to me it's just a case of the 'special washer' being missing as indicated on the exploded parts diagram on that linked thread. This holds the plastic insert in place as could a spring clip or as someone even said, so could a cable tie. Seems I've got the plastic insert fed in from engine bay side rather than cabin side but reading what was being said it seemed they came out of the factory both way round?!
Looking at those ML parts bearing kits, I would say that's what I've already got rather than the older style nylon bush and steel bearing type.
So answer is just order a clip to hold the insert in place. Its lasted 1000s of miles without it though so must have been pretty well solid jammed In there. Thanks again. This forum is class!
Looking at those ML parts bearing kits, I would say that's what I've already got rather than the older style nylon bush and steel bearing type.
So answer is just order a clip to hold the insert in place. Its lasted 1000s of miles without it though so must have been pretty well solid jammed In there. Thanks again. This forum is class!
Edited by gizzardio on Sunday 23 March 11:28
Smokey Boyer said:
....... I know I could have got the bits cheaper by shopping around and getting the essential items from engineering suppliers, but getting the complete kit is just easier.
I'm not in a hurry for this so how would I go about getting the parts individually? Has anyone got a scrap bearing and assembly so I can see how it all gows together?v8s4me said:
how would I go about getting the parts individually?
Bearing - Ebay or local bearing stockistNuts 'n bolts - Ebay or local nut 'n bolt stockist
Triangular bush - Ebay or any stock at Ford Main Dealers still?
Housing - Plastic presumably Ford item
Alluminium from TVR specialist
phillpot said:
Triangular bush - Ebay or any stock at Ford Main Dealers still?
This bit?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAND-NEW-FORD-SIERRA-2-...
And thanks to you too Barry.
Amazing isn’t it? A piece of high quality precision German (?) engineering costs £4.55 and a couple of bits of plastic costs £9.10. Although I see in Bary's photo of his bearing it says "Italy" on the rim of the race.
I suppose the bearing a SKF and not some dodgy Chinese thing made from Baco-foil.
Anyway, still leaves £35.00 to cover the housing
Amazing isn’t it? A piece of high quality precision German (?) engineering costs £4.55 and a couple of bits of plastic costs £9.10. Although I see in Bary's photo of his bearing it says "Italy" on the rim of the race.
I suppose the bearing a SKF and not some dodgy Chinese thing made from Baco-foil.
Anyway, still leaves £35.00 to cover the housing
Edited by v8s4me on Monday 24th March 21:58
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