BAM Engine Advice Please

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Jonj1

Original Poster:

81 posts

62 months

Saturday 13th April
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Hello,

So looking to get an Audi TT, an older one, MK1.

Did all the Audi TT's have the BAM engine? Or was it just the 225?

Some of the cars I am looking at are pretty high mileage, ranging from 130k to 170k. Are there any issues with these engines and high mileage?

Like for some cars like the Mini R56, around 60k you are looking at big bills, ask me how I know.

Thank you

aka_kerrly

12,419 posts

211 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Hi,

Yes you are correct that only the 225hp models come with BAM engine, the significant difference compared with the 150/180/190Hp 1.8 20VT engines is the BAM is the only one that comes with the K04 turbo & supporting improvements to the engine internals (lower compression & forged) coolant/intake/exhaust system to cope with the additional power.

There will be people who say you can get a 180hp model and have it remapped to 230hp but it will always be limited by the smaller turbo, hence it may feel a bit more punchy at lower revs with slightly less lag but the standard BAM will pull better at the mid>top end.

When looking at cars for sale, if it not specifically listed as being a 225hp variant and you do not have access to the V5 you can tell from the engine bay without having to poke around much. The easiest way to spot if its a BAM engine is to look at the intake and throttle body, the intercooler hose into the throttle body should come from the RIGHT hand side as you look at the bay (passenger side) and the turbo>intercooler pipe on the LEFT side of the engine bay (driver)

All the lower end models the throttle body is on the LEFT side of the bay and the intercooler pipe comes up from the LEFT

You can find the engine code stamped on the front left corner of the block just under the cylinder head to the side of the cambelt cover





SAS Tom

3,407 posts

175 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Just to save some confusion, all BAM’s are 225’s but not all 225’s are BAM’s. Some were APX.

As far as big bills I’ve got one that was tired when I bought it and it has presented various big bills and mostly common problems or general maintenance.

A high mileage one on original bushes will drive like crap. There are a lot of arms and bushes and the alignment toe’s the rear in massively when the bushes are worn making an understeery mess.

Clutch replacement is expensive due to the labour involved.

They have an issue with sludge in the pickup pipe which can cause oil starvation. I replaced the pickup pipe in mine but to be honest it wasn’t bad at all.

There’s a long list of common problems with them and I’ve had most of them now. I don’t think I’d do it all again but my car drives very well now. I can’t really sell it as it’s worth nowhere near what I’ve put into it.


E63eeeeee...

3,910 posts

50 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Iirc BAM were 2001 on, APX were earlier cars.

Having had two now, you're either going to get a well looked after one or get a cheap one and spend more on fixing it than you spent buying it with no prospect of getting your money back - they're 20+ year old cars now.

Jonj1

Original Poster:

81 posts

62 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Thank you all for the replies.

In the end went with a MK2 2.0 TFSI. Not without there own problems, cough cam follower biggrin

Olivera

7,154 posts

240 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Jonj1 said:
Some of the cars I am looking at are pretty high mileage, ranging from 130k to 170k. Are there any issues with these engines and high mileage?
Given these cars are 20 years old, 100k+ miles, and will have been ragged by previous owners, there are many, many possible issues. My Leon Cupra R with the BAM engine had a list of issues when I got rid of it, and that was 10 years ago.

Jonj1

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81 posts

62 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Yeah indeed, never got one in the end

rottenegg

420 posts

64 months

Friday 19th April
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SAS Tom said:
Just to save some confusion, all BAM’s are 225’s but not all 225’s are BAM’s. Some were APX.
Don't forget the BFV engine. 240hp Quattro sport smile

That is the MK1 to have imo, but they are probably a fair chunk dearer than the regular cars by now.

rottenegg

420 posts

64 months

Friday 19th April
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Jonj1 said:
Thank you all for the replies.

In the end went with a MK2 2.0 TFSI. Not without there own problems, cough cam follower biggrin
And cam chain, oil pump pick up, carbon fouling, split recirc valve, injector failure (always cyl 3 first for some reason) and VVT oil control ring failure smile

Both the TFSI and 1.8T are good solid engines if looked after.

Jonj1

Original Poster:

81 posts

62 months

Friday 19th April
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I have the cambelt one

rottenegg

420 posts

64 months

Friday 19th April
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Jonj1 said:
I have the cambelt one
Yep, the EA113 engine, but it has a cam chain as well as a belt. Exhaust cam is belt driven. Exhaust cam drives the intake cam via a chain. The chain tensioner runs out of travel as the chain wears and then you get VVT fault codes and cam/crank correlation errors.