Superchip Bluefin for MINI One

Superchip Bluefin for MINI One

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PH5121

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1,964 posts

214 months

Tuesday 15th August 2006
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My wife has had her MINI for a while now and is fancying pepping it up.
Has anyone had any experience with the Superchip Bluefin plug in remap which claims to increase power to circa 130bhp.
For £300 it looks like a cracking deal, or is it too good to be true.
The car has already got a K&N industion kit and an big exhaust so it sounds quicker than it goes.
Any advice welcome
Paul

F355GTS

3,723 posts

256 months

Tuesday 15th August 2006
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Paul

drop me an e-mail through profile, I'll pass it on ot my Daughter who fitted the bluefin to her Mini one about 4 months ago, very impressed.

phil_dougan

4,501 posts

228 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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not really worth chipping a car unless its a turbo petrol or diesel, doesnt seem to make much difference to n/a engines, i used to own a modified mini cooper and to be honest theres only so much a n/a 1.6 can do..

ehyouwhat

4,606 posts

219 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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phil_dougan said:
not really worth chipping a car unless its a turbo petrol or diesel, doesnt seem to make much difference to n/a engines, i used to own a modified mini cooper and to be honest theres only so much a n/a 1.6 can do..


nono

It makes quite a lot of difference on the MINI One as the engine is already in a state of de-tune. The chip essential frees up around forty horses and gives the car similar power output to the Cooper. Remember that the One and the Cooper utilise the same engine, only with different ECU settings (and maybe a couple of other bits, but the ECU makes the biggest difference).

As the Cooper already has those extra horses thanks to the ECU settings, it is more difficult to extract more, hence the fact that not a lot can be done.

phil_dougan

4,501 posts

228 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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yeah i knew that but, my friends had standard mini ones and my cooper was chipped, exhaust, induction kit and hardly improved the performance was never going to leave a mini one standing. I agree though about the mini one, they are under powered, i had a bmw chipped gaining 45bhp and what a difference it made loads more torque.My point is even with 130bhp the mini one or cooper still feel relatively under powered in my opinion, i went for a cooper at the time for insurance purposes, couldnt get insurance on a cooper s. It wasnt a particuarly quick car but one thing it definetly had in abundance was brilliant handling, i embarassed many a very fast car on windy and twisty roads.

ehyouwhat

4,606 posts

219 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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Agreed that the MINI could take a lot more power, indeed my MCS JCW was running around 218bhp and it handled it absolutely fine. The car was like a gokart round the twisties, an awesome car.

IMHO a standard Cooper would be a fair bit faster than a One though. Before my friend had his One chipped I sometimes used to nick my Mums Cooper we'd have a bit of a blat - the Cooper could pull away from the One comfortable. Once he got the chip though it was a different story, in fact his One had a slight edge on the Cooper. I actually reckon a chip for the One at £300-£400 is a superb modification in terms of value for money, probably to the point that I'm not sure I'd pick a Cooper over a One.

phil_dougan

4,501 posts

228 months

Saturday 4th November 2006
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3 of my mates had mini ones and after i finished modifying my car the biggest difference against a mini one was off the mark but elsewhere wasnt much in it. The only reason my mini went was because it began to feel extremely under powered especially after driving porsches lol. But i think the original bmw mini was fantastic for its handling and also the residual side of things i mean i ran my car for 3 n a bit years and lost next to nothing on it. I guess it remains to be seen whether or not the new mini will hold its value as well as the original bmw mini has done, im guessing probably not, similar to the new TT its not quite as bigger news or as dramatic to look at as it was when it originally came out but i suppose theres nothing they could of done about that .I will hold my hands up it was my first car and i loved it every bit of it great cars the BMW mini, i own a porsche now and i still often think and hope that the owner i sold it to looks after it as much as i did..

ehyouwhat

4,606 posts

219 months

Sunday 5th November 2006
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phil_dougan said:
3 of my mates had mini ones and after i finished modifying my car the biggest difference against a mini one was off the mark but elsewhere wasnt much in it. The only reason my mini went was because it began to feel extremely under powered especially after driving porsches lol. But i think the original bmw mini was fantastic for its handling and also the residual side of things i mean i ran my car for 3 n a bit years and lost next to nothing on it. I guess it remains to be seen whether or not the new mini will hold its value as well as the original bmw mini has done, im guessing probably not, similar to the new TT its not quite as bigger news or as dramatic to look at as it was when it originally came out but i suppose theres nothing they could of done about that .I will hold my hands up it was my first car and i loved it every bit of it great cars the BMW mini, i own a porsche now and i still often think and hope that the owner i sold it to looks after it as much as i did..


Makes me wonder if perhaps your Cooper was setup incorrectly somewhere along the line, or alternatively (more likely?) perhaps the One's were pushing out a bit more BHP than standard (quite possible given the fact that the engines are the same)? The Cooper my Mum used to have was a fair bit quicker than the One my friend owned, until the chip turned the One into a faster machine.

I owned my MCS for a year or so and I lost a total of £4k on it, but that was due to a fair number of modifications I made (where you never redeem your money). Had I left the car standard I imagine I would have lost perhaps £1,500, which isn't bad at all for a years motoring. Like you though I got rid of the MINI as I fancied something with a bit more power, and BMW M3 insurance became a realistic prospect so that's where my cash went. I have to say though, even after owning my 911 Turbo I can still see the merits of the little MINI. I'm about to buy my girfriend a MINI of some description (can't decide between a Gen 2 Cooper or a Gen 1 One/Cooper convertible) and I have half a mind on the fact that I will enjoy driving it too! There aren't that many 'supermini' cars that can endear a driving enthusiast in quite the same way.

b.johnson

1,091 posts

215 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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the only thing that restricts the mini one as apposed to the cooper is how much the throttle opens, the mini one only opens 75% which is where the extra power comes from and thats why it doesn't feel any different at low revrange.

phil_dougan

4,501 posts

228 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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ehyouwhat said:
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Makes me wonder if perhaps your Cooper was setup incorrectly somewhere along the line, or alternatively (more likely?) perhaps the One's were pushing out a bit more BHP than standard (quite possible given the fact that the engines are the same)? The Cooper my Mum used to have was a fair bit quicker than the One my friend owned, until the chip turned the One into a faster machine.

I owned my MCS for a year or so and I lost a total of £4k on it, but that was due to a fair number of modifications I made (where you never redeem your money). Had I left the car standard I imagine I would have lost perhaps £1,500, which isn't bad at all for a years motoring. Like you though I got rid of the MINI as I fancied something with a bit more power, and BMW M3 insurance became a realistic prospect so that's where my cash went. I have to say though, even after owning my 911 Turbo I can still see the merits of the little MINI. I'm about to buy my girfriend a MINI of some description (can't decide between a Gen 2 Cooper or a Gen 1 One/Cooper convertible) and I have half a mind on the fact that I will enjoy driving it too! There aren't that many 'supermini' cars that can endear a driving enthusiast in quite the same way.


agree with you about the ride its like driving about in a go kart ha, reat cars no doubt about it, im driving a boxster at the min, insurance cud still come down quite a bit though haha.Just goes to show how good the little mini is when were driving porsches and bmw's and still think their great to drive

whiteye

12 posts

203 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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Anyone know if I could just retro-fit a cooper ECU to my wifes Mini One rather than going the Superchips route? From what I can gather it's just the ECU map that is the difference between the two cars.

Thanks in advance

DavidLScott

1,048 posts

225 months

Thursday 27th March 2008
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I wouldn't have thought it was worth it trying to use the standard ECU - I guess they are all downloaded programmes anyway. The Bluefin Superchip will take you beyond Cooper tune anyway.

I Superchipped my wife's Cooper about 2-3 years ago and it is noticeably sprightlier above 4000 rpm so would be even more noticeable on a One.
It is dead easy to install (about 10 minutes) and you can swap it back for services if you want to. You MUST tell your insurance company though.

olliemillroy

1 posts

193 months

Tuesday 1st April 2008
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I've got a mini one and put on a K&N Induction kit and a milltek exhaust so sounds nice but didn't go very fast so i went and bought a Bluefin Remap Unit. It makes so much difference and was well worth it!! With all the Modifications im getting about 136bhp out of it now! much better!

vdubbin

2,165 posts

198 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2008
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I read a review in Performance Tuner a while back where they tested various induction and exhaust bits, most of which did very little to the headline figures, with negligible gains, mostly sotthing out the power curve, Then they remapped it courtesy of a Bluefin remap and got 30bhp extra from it.

joshuaroberts1

3 posts

154 months

Thursday 7th July 2011
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Hi, i was thinking of buying a 2nd hand 'mini superchips bluefin' do you think this is a good idea or bad? its almost a 3rd of the 'new' price. and does anybody know how you use it? i have no idea.

Thanks.

Slinky

15,704 posts

250 months

Thursday 7th July 2011
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Holy thread resurrection bat man!

As long as the unit functions correctly, then there should be no issue with a 2nd hand item as far as I'm aware..

For reference, the difference between horsepower output between the One and the Cooper is simply down to throttle opening (AFAIR), the One only allows circa 73% throttle (remembering of course that these are FBW cars)

joshuaroberts1

3 posts

154 months

Thursday 7th July 2011
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Thanks, but will i have to reset the Bluefin or anything and if so how would i be able to do this?

and do you know how to work the bluefin? (what to do) as i have no clue at all with how it works or what would happen.

Thanks.

Slinky

15,704 posts

250 months

joshuaroberts1

3 posts

154 months

Thursday 7th July 2011
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Thanks, would you know how to 'reset' the bluefin? As the old owner used it on his MINI, but said he has installed but then uninstalled his car.

Thanks.

pepper91

2 posts

126 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Hi, just readingt he thread on the Bluefin superchips and lookign at buying one howver i can only see ones listed for 1st Gen mini's.
does anyone know if they are available for 2nd Gen? i have a R55 clubman one.
can you use the bluefin on all models/years?

thanks for any help..