Are business accounts covered by the 50k guarantee?

Are business accounts covered by the 50k guarantee?

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PistonReg

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339 posts

193 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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From Tuesday the limit is being raised from 35 to 50k, but will this just cover personal accounts or business accounts as well?

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,254 posts

235 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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Personal only.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

225 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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Its a bit of a sod that its personal only. Thinking of buying some gold bars and putting them in the bottom draw of a filing cabinet....

amir_j

3,579 posts

201 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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Germany made the limit unlimited following Greece/Ireland so rest of eu will follow suit

dunno if covers business though

PistonReg

Original Poster:

339 posts

193 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Personal only.
Thanks. I thought as much. Could be time to move some spare cash out soon!

XTR2Turbo

1,533 posts

231 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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business also subject to certain criteria - effectively smaller companies only.

David

BigAlinEmbra

1,629 posts

212 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Personal only.
No.
Small businesses as defined by the companies act are also covered. IE under 50 employees, turnover under £5.6m etc.

Eric Mc

121,976 posts

265 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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And small businesses would also include sole traders and partnerships.

trunnie

306 posts

257 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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Not an easy read, but the FSA list of who's covered is here
http://fsahandbook.info/FSA/html/handbook/COMP/4/2

andyps

7,817 posts

282 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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plasticpig said:
Its a bit of a sod that its personal only. Thinking of buying some gold bars and putting them in the bottom draw of a filing cabinet....
I was wondering about this (not that I have much in the way of savings at the moment!). Heard about these people last week which sounds interesting and probably a bit safer than the filing cabinet - http://www.bullionvault.com/ No idea if they are any good, they were on the Radio 2 drivetime business slot.

zadumbreion

1,049 posts

220 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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So - if we transfer say £50K from our business account to an unused / dormant personal account purely as a safeguard - and that money is not used for anything (ie just sits in the personal account and eventually gets transferred back) - what are the chances that the Inland revenue would accept it as a panic measure and not as a [taxable] personal loan?

I suspect the answer is zero. I think I'll do it anyway.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,254 posts

235 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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BigAlinEmbra said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Personal only.
No.
Small businesses as defined by the companies act are also covered. IE under 50 employees, turnover under £5.6m etc.
Cripes! You live & learn.

PistonReg

Original Poster:

339 posts

193 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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Thanks folks - very godo to know businesses are covered, especially after events of the past 2 days!

Simpo Two

85,386 posts

265 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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Some local authorities had up to £40M invested in Iceland and may lose the lot... guess what that's going to do to your Council Tax? (a) up (b) down.

henna777

173 posts

205 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Simpo Two said:
Some local authorities had up to £40M invested in Iceland and may lose the lot... guess what that's going to do to your Council Tax? (a) up (b) down.
This is an interesting topic and something, I regret to say, I have an interest in. My own limited company had a lot more than £50k way back before kauphuting bought out singers & friedlander and continued to do so until yesterday when the company was placed in admin by the UK treasury. I have spoken to the FSA and FSCA and they say that, under small companies protection I will get it all back, my accountants also checked this out and was confirmed to them and that I should have a claim form sent to me within next 7 days. My account was a deposit 90 day tracker and I would imagine the councils were similar. One to watch and I hope that it is true!!

Brown and Boris

11,800 posts

235 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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One presumes that any loses as a result of a business account with a failed bank will include any CT liability?

Ater all, if you lose the money you were saving to pay the VAT and CT they can hardly expect to get it?

What if you have money in more than one bank and one fails. Can you suggest that is the one with the tax mans money in?

Eric Mc

121,976 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Brown and Boris said:
One presumes that any loses as a result of a business account with a failed bank will include any CT liability?

Ater all, if you lose the money you were saving to pay the VAT and CT they can hardly expect to get it?

What if you have money in more than one bank and one fails. Can you suggest that is the one with the tax mans money in?
Errr - not exactly. The VAT and tax man will still expect their liabilities to be settled.
Obviously, if you finally come to the conclusion that the monies held in the bank account are irrecoverable, you will be able to offset the "lost" baalnce against your income IN THE YEAR THE LOSS IS WRITTEN OFF IN THE ACCOUNTS. That means last year's tax liabilities will still be due. It is just the next year's liability that will be reduced or wiped out.