What happened to Echelon Wealth management?

What happened to Echelon Wealth management?

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Dr Jekyll

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23,820 posts

262 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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Their website and answering machine just says 'trading suspended'. Does this mean everyone having an account with them has lost their money?

Edited by Dr Jekyll on Friday 17th October 17:58

Horse_Apple

3,795 posts

243 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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Dr Jekyll said:
There website and answering machine just says 'trading suspended'. Does this mean everyone having an account with them has lost their money?
It would depend on several factors. What the account was (ie physical stock or CFDs) and whether you were seg or non-seg on funds.

Then, it depends how much a client held over the amount guaranteed by the FCS, which was 100% of the first £30K and then 90% of the next £20K, so about £48k

Dr Jekyll

Original Poster:

23,820 posts

262 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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Posted a cheque yesterday. Hopefully they haven't cashed it. Was planning to put it into spread bets next week.

Horse_Apple

3,795 posts

243 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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You have PM.

echelonloss

6 posts

187 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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yes for some reason they just suddenly decided to sell all my shares two days ago and now they dont take calls or emails. The FSA website says that the company is in liquidation. I dont see how they can sell shares without instruction?

EchelonProblem

5 posts

187 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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many thanks for the person that has set this blog up. I cannot get hold of anyone at Echelon. If it has gone into liquidation then I think that as a spread better I do not have a leg to stand on in terms of getting my money back. Accoring to my terms of contract the funds that I have a re non-segregated and therefore not guaranteed by the FSA. I think I have just lost two grand.. if anyone knows differently and I have gotten my facts wrong then please let me know.

EchelonProblem

5 posts

187 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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All,

Just to let you know that I have spoken to the FSA and they have confirmed that Echelon is going through liquidation and KPMG are managing the administration of this. There is a team of people who are managing this within KPMG, the manager is Victoria Hanlon. I have left her my number and she wil call me back in the next day with an update on my rights as a customer etc. For those who want to contact them to find out for yourselves the number is 0131 222 2000

CJKELLY

3 posts

187 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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I have just spoken with KPMG, who could give me no information as to why Echelon have gone into liquidation or if I will get my money back. I only opened a spread betting account last week and it looks like i have lost the best part of £1500. KPMG have advised that they will be sending a letter to creditors at the end of this week. Does anyone know if as a spreadbetter we are entitled to 100% of our money back under the rules of the FSA? Help!!!

Dr Jekyll

Original Poster:

23,820 posts

262 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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I was told your first £30K is protected, then 90% of the next £20K. Though I dare say it may depend on how much is staked on open bets.


moustik55

5 posts

187 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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why Echelon is dead ? my personal opinion is that they were very very bad at managing margin calls for cfd's and if you look at the markets recently... i believe many clients went bankrupt and obviously Echelon did the same. Now i imagine a lot of clients owe money to Echelon. As i said, just a personnal view. Still have a couple of thousands £ over there

CJKELLY

3 posts

187 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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The funds they have of mine are the original £'s that I paid in to open the account, no profits from betting. What a nightmare!!!

shadowninja

76,399 posts

283 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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frown Good luck. Spreadbetting is hard enough as it is without this sort of st happening.

Edited by shadowninja on Tuesday 21st October 13:35

ytrebil

792 posts

187 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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Grrrr.

Found out yesterday!

I have over 3 grand with those guys.

For some reason I had a funny feeling they'd go under. Obviously I thought my thinking was irrational/premonition based and so didn't act upon!

Wish I bloody did now.

Please, please update us with news if anyone gets any!

moustik55

5 posts

187 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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well... i have 57k...

ytrebil

792 posts

187 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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moustik55 said:
well... i have 57k...
My best friend has just over 30k in there. I guess worst ways you will lose what, 9 grand? Bit of a kick in the bks to say the least.

moustik55

5 posts

187 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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when i read this i am not so optimistic... "Accoring to my terms of contract the funds that I have are non-segregated and therefore not guaranteed by the FSA."

ytrebil

792 posts

187 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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moustik55 said:
when i read this i am not so optimistic... "Accoring to my terms of contract the funds that I have are non-segregated and therefore not guaranteed by the FSA."
Have you spoken to the FSA? I've dropped them an e-mail using their contact form. What a mess.

moustik55

5 posts

187 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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i sent emails to the FSA and to KPMG, sent some mobile text message to the guy at Echelon as well... when english is not your language and when you are 3,000km away from Scotland it is not so easy ! now it's just "wait and see" - no other choice

echelonloss

6 posts

187 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2008
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Well it appears to be fraud as well . All the accounts are supposed to be segregated.

moustik55

5 posts

187 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2008
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an interesting website that may help

http://www.globaltraderclients.com/tiki-index.php