How much do firemen (fire officers) get paid?

How much do firemen (fire officers) get paid?

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MElliottUK

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832 posts

212 months

Friday 7th September 2007
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just out of interested anyone know the starting salary?

Would i be mad to leave a FTSE 100 company for the fire brigade, i dont think so as my jobs boring and not very rewarding.

Any good jobs anyone can think of whereby its rewarding and gets you out and about. So far i have come up with,

Fireman
Police
Banking (investment/financial advisor)
Air Traffic Control
Pilot
Estate Agent
Taxi driver/part time car dealer


I have a degree in Engineering and experience but i seem to just push paper so i want to get out and about, maybe i should consider sales reping (engineering products/services)

igiveup

2,875 posts

282 months

Friday 7th September 2007
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Why not try and get on as a Retained Fire Fighter, this way you get paid for shouts and get experience. You keep your normal 9-5 and let them know when you are available. You must live/work within 4 mins of the Fire Station though. But will give you good insight in what it would be like and if its for you.

brad$$$$$$

42 posts

192 months

Tuesday 29th April 2008
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i would like to know more about the 'retained firefighter' please
thanks

igiveup

2,875 posts

282 months

sparkyb999

322 posts

198 months

Thursday 1st May 2008
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[quote=brad$$$$$$]i would like to know more about the 'retained firefighter' please
thanks
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What things would you like to know?

As retained, you are issued with a pager, and depending of what type of cover (i.e full, 3/4 cover) you attend the fire station when alerted. Usually its a first come first served basis as to who turns out. Because we were short staffed, we have a duty crew on a week on week off basis, and available in case one guy dont turn up.

Its a very good way to earn extra money, and allowing you to earn a full time wage, as long as your employer is ok with a few late mornings and days off cos your fighting a barn fire somewhere.

Depending where you are based, you will see all the sights and get involed exaclty the same as wholetime crews.

Its also a great stepping stone to become wholetime, gives you a very good insight to what "life as a firefighter" is like.

I never did it for the money, if it was for free, i still would have done it. Its a very close community, you make best freinds, and provides the biggest amount of adrelalin you will expereince turning out to a house fire persons reported.

Best job in the world!

sean19

672 posts

200 months

Monday 12th May 2008
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I have been considering a career a little more exiting that my current job (Assistant Quanitity Surveyor).

I applied for the RAF when I was 16, but I was not able to join due to the fact I had recieved treatment for asthma a few months before, annoyingly it was down to a chest infection rather than asthma! However, 4years later I am now eligible to re-apply.

But I am torn between the potential of a well paid career, or making the move to follow something I may really really enjoy. Im only 20 and I swaying towards just giving it a go, and applying for the RAF again.

I could always come back to surveying as I finish my HNC this week.
What to do...What to do?




wadsy

369 posts

256 months

Tuesday 20th May 2008
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sean19 said:
I have been considering a career a little more exiting that my current job (Assistant Quanitity Surveyor).
I applied for the RAF when I was 16, but I was not able to join due to the fact I had recieved treatment for asthma a few months before, annoyingly it was down to a chest infection rather than asthma! However, 4years later I am now eligible to re-apply.
But I am torn between the potential of a well paid career, or making the move to follow something I may really really enjoy. Im only 20 and I swaying towards just giving it a go, and applying for the RAF again.
I could always come back to surveying as I finish my HNC this week.
What to do...What to do?
Go for it Sean, there's no guarentee that'll you'll be successful in your application, but the selection process may make your mind up for you anyway, in terms of whether you think the RAF is right for you or not. Life's for living - experience as much as you can and try to enjoy the ride!!

wadsy

369 posts

256 months

Tuesday 20th May 2008
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MElliottUK said:
just out of interested anyone know the starting salary?
Would i be mad to leave a FTSE 100 company for the fire brigade, i dont think so as my jobs boring and not very rewarding.
Any good jobs anyone can think of whereby its rewarding and gets you out and about. So far i have come up with,
Fireman
Police
Banking (investment/financial advisor)
Air Traffic Control
Pilot
Estate Agent
Taxi driver/part time car dealer
I have a degree in Engineering and experience but i seem to just push paper so i want to get out and about, maybe i should consider sales reping (engineering products/services)
Matthew, some of the jobs you list above don't appear to be 'rewarding' but I suppose it depends how you define that!

Anyway, you may want to add teaching to your list. Can be very rewarding as well as hard work, however reasonable salary and if you choose the right school to work in, you can have lots of variety and outdoor activities too.

Your Eng. degree will allow you to get onto a PGCE and you may be able to teach Design Technology, not sure about maths. If you're a sporty type, you can put that to use as well.

May be worth looking into

Cheers

BigAlinEmbra

1,629 posts

212 months

Tuesday 20th May 2008
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wadsy said:
sean19 said:
I have been considering a career a little more exiting that my current job (Assistant Quanitity Surveyor).
I applied for the RAF when I was 16, but I was not able to join due to the fact I had recieved treatment for asthma a few months before, annoyingly it was down to a chest infection rather than asthma! However, 4years later I am now eligible to re-apply.
But I am torn between the potential of a well paid career, or making the move to follow something I may really really enjoy. Im only 20 and I swaying towards just giving it a go, and applying for the RAF again.
I could always come back to surveying as I finish my HNC this week.
What to do...What to do?
Go for it Sean, there's no guarentee that'll you'll be successful in your application, but the selection process may make your mind up for you anyway, in terms of whether you think the RAF is right for you or not. Life's for living - experience as much as you can and try to enjoy the ride!!
5-10 years in the forces and you're still young enough to retrain for something else if you want to later on.
Personally I think anyone wanting to go into the forces with the current state of conflicts is barking, but I do have a lot of respect for those that do the job and am very glad they do so I'm not compelled to through national service.
Thank go we live in a nation of lunatics. biggrin

Medic-one

3,105 posts

203 months

Wednesday 21st May 2008
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MElliottUK said:
Fireman
Police
You've forgot about the best one (to work for) of the three 999 services....wink

Shrimper

421 posts

194 months

Sunday 25th May 2008
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My old man has recently retired from the fire brigade. He was known as a bit of a nutter for driving the machines not too differently from the way he drives his porkas on track.

Anyhow, I was thinking about joining up recently, and you are looking at 20k start, rising up as you get more qualifications. Dad said to me if I was guna go for it, go in and learn as many different skills as you can for free (and there is a lot to learn), get as high as you can, then bail out after 10-15years and go do something else. He retired at 50 with a great pension and is now off doing stuff he really enjoys, including running a few small businesses to keep him busy.

The brigade is really good for learning and pushing youself, as well as the 'brotherhood' element, but its really popular at the moment, it could take you up to two years to get in if you are successful. But you do work 2 days, 2 nights, then four days off, which is pretty nice...

brad$$$$$$

42 posts

192 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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im thinking about changing my career completely and being a firefighter, my dad said he wished he done it. im nearly a qualified carpenter, doing kitchen fitting at the moment. its OK but not what i want to spend the rest of my life doing. im only 19 so young enough to start new career. What can you expect to earn in the ranks? after a few year is it possible to apply for to be firefighter in australia or new zealand maybe? and im interested in the physical side, does anyone know how often u can use the gym e.t.c?
and i could always have another job on the 4 days off...

cheers, brad.

BigAlinEmbra

1,629 posts

212 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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http://www.prospects.ac.uk/cms/ShowPage/Home_page/...

That might be useful. £20k starting rising to £26.5k once you've completed your training.
The fire brigade don't pay out of hours payments like other shift workers get though.

That said, imo, £20k for the level of qualifications going in is decent money.

Training is quite demanding, but I've got a few mates that do the job, all thoroughly enjoy it and it's made them far more responsible guys. They all love their job too, which is something money can't buy.

One thing to be aware of is that there are some seriously unpleasant aspects (imo) to the job, such as getting corpses out of fatal accidents. Particularly in car crashes, you could be dealing with someone whose bowels have let go when they've died, so it's not all racing to scenes, putting fires out, axeing doors open and getting cats out of trees.

Up here in Scotland, competition for training places is quite fierce, so as mentioned above starting off as a retained firefighter could be a good way in.

Pulse

10,922 posts

218 months

Thursday 21st August 2008
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I love the idea of Police or Fire, but neither of them offer 9-5 Mon-Fri. Which is a shame, as that is my lifestyle outside of work, and I like it that way.

When you get higher up, are you able to get a role within the Police or Fire Dept that offers 'regular' hours?

sparkyb999

322 posts

198 months

Thursday 21st August 2008
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Pulse said:
I love the idea of Police or Fire, but neither of them offer 9-5 Mon-Fri. Which is a shame, as that is my lifestyle outside of work, and I like it that way.

When you get higher up, are you able to get a role within the Police or Fire Dept that offers 'regular' hours?
There a LOADS and LOADS of different roles within them services that offer "normal" hours. And you dont have to start on frontline first. Its only the front line and control staff that are really on the shifts.

Accounts & finance / H & R / stores / Workshops / cleaning / cooks / stores / Investigation / planning to name just a few!

There are even more civilian roles in the police



Edited by sparkyb999 on Thursday 21st August 19:32

Pulse

10,922 posts

218 months

Thursday 21st August 2008
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sparkyb999 said:
Pulse said:
I love the idea of Police or Fire, but neither of them offer 9-5 Mon-Fri. Which is a shame, as that is my lifestyle outside of work, and I like it that way.

When you get higher up, are you able to get a role within the Police or Fire Dept that offers 'regular' hours?
There a LOADS and LOADS of different roles within them services that offer "normal" hours. And you dont have to start on frontline first. Its only the front line and control staff that are really on the shifts.

Accounts & finance / H & R / stores / Workshops / cleaning / cooks / stores / Investigation / planning to name just a few!

There are even more civilian roles in the police



Edited by sparkyb999 on Thursday 21st August 19:32
Oh yeah, I know you can do that sort of thing, but I meant an actual police officer.

Really should start a new thread I guess to ask all my questions, and it's something I'm seriously considering.

GaryG182

293 posts

223 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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To the OP regarding Pilot career....Hope you didn't go for it as you would probably be finishing your training at quite possibly the worst time!

I know some firefighters and they love it!

sean19

672 posts

200 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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GaryG182 said:
To the OP regarding Pilot career....Hope you didn't go for it as you would probably be finishing your training at quite possibly the worst time!

I know some firefighters and they love it!
Why is it a bad time to become a pilot?
It's not something I'm looking at but just curious!

GaryG182

293 posts

223 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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Well its something I've been looking into over the last year. Basically it costs a load of wedge (£60k plus for ab-initio fATPL) and there's not much guarantee of a job at the end; its extremely competitive! Plus the aviation industry is very susceptible to any change in the economy and as it happens right now things are bad and even worse for aviation! The cost of avGas jet fuel has doubled and thirty odd airlines have gone bust, this means a lot of pilots out of work so the chance of a low hour fATPL pilot of getting that first job is minimal.