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Rusti Evo

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531 posts

81 months

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So whats the secret? I am very loath to try the old "full throttle and crank until it starts" job, cos I didn't want the dreaded accelerator pumps to puke yet more fuel into the motor. Plugs are as wet as a wet thing ....... (MSD checks out OK)

Disconnect ignition and crank it with plugs out?

Goodwood tomorrow and a silent cargrumpy

And yes, I know the solution is to chuck the carb in the skip and fit EFIlaughlaughlaugh

GTRCLIVE

3,665 posts

170 months

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Either WOT while starting or leave it for 2 hour.... if no good then I'm sorry to say it's the plug out and stick them in the Cooker for 15 mins on high to dry them out...... and never put one of those silly magnets on the fuel line as every time I tried it, she fouled the plugs.....

Rusti Evo

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531 posts

81 months

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Oh, and forgot to mention the Ultima dished me up a motoring first today! A whiskered plug!

Heard about them, had lots of rubbish British two stroke bikes, but never seen one. But there it was, about .010 to .020" of black grot whisker shorting between the electrodes. So that cylinder was a dead man. Wonder about the others .....

So it's off to the spark plug shop first thing!

Stuart




andygtt

7,489 posts

151 months

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My advice for starting the car before its flooded.
single push of the throttle to the floor and back... then crank it over until it catches and DO NOT touch the throttle before it starts to catch.... then very gently feather it for a couple of mins.
This assumes no choke is fitted and its a double barrel like mine was...... worked every time for my car.

For flooded car... well mine I used to leave for a few mins and repeat above but rarelly happened with the above approach.
However I did have another car that was a nightmare and I had to actually take the plugs out and DRY them off with a cloth... then it would fire 1st time.
For this particular car, I could leave it hrs and it would nnever start... once it was flooded the ONLY way to start it was to remove and dry the plugs.

Boosted LS1

13,661 posts

147 months

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Sheesh, you guys are living in the stone age! Seriously though, I used to have this problem with a Rover v8/holley combo and had to bake a fair few plugs on the gas cooker to dry them out. I learnt to switch the fuel pump off whilst cranking with just a tad of throttle angle. Or I'd give it one shot of accel pump and then crank.
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Rusti Evo

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531 posts

81 months

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Thanks for the advice. Have just fitted new Holley 4150 with manual choke. (hoping to avoid flooding due to accelerator pump)

Any hot tips for manual choke starting?


Boosted LS1

13,661 posts

147 months

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Ignore the choke and just give the accelerator pumps 1 squirt. Whenever I've had a holley I've removed the choke alltogether. The choke plate's a big restriction imo.

bluesatin

3,038 posts

159 months

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Bin the choke- you don't need it as many others have found!

andygtt

7,489 posts

151 months

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Monday 21st April 2008 quote quote all
I agree... I binned the choke as it was a total liability and wasn't easier to start with it on anyhow.

kylemrushall

1,916 posts

91 months

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Bin the carb

Rusti Evo

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531 posts

81 months

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kylemrushall said:
Bin the carb
Yep. One last try to start the fooking thing tomorrow and the injection's going to have to go on...cursecursecurse

kylemrushall

1,916 posts

91 months

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Rusti Evo said:
kylemrushall said:
Bin the carb
Yep. One last try to start the fooking thing tomorrow and the injection's going to have to go on...cursecursecurse
you know it makes sense

TuxMan

8,251 posts

125 months

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i,m with Kyle, one of the best mods i ever did was fit E.F.I. even if i was advised agaist it !!!!

Rusti Evo

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531 posts

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idea I've got it! I will ring that very nice man from the AA who will help me out with a Home Start! laughlaughlaugh No problem for an expert .......

Crazy of Cookham

739 posts

142 months

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The AA are very good they came out a couple of months ago to start my Monaro 500bhp. He asked two telling questions. 1) What is a supercharger and 2) Is it front wheel drive!!!. Good luck

Rusti Evo

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Crazy of Cookham said:
The AA are very good they came out a couple of months ago to start my Monaro 500bhp. He asked two telling questions. 1) What is a supercharger and 2) Is it front wheel drive!!!. Good luck
Hmmm, I wonder what he will make of his initiation into the horrors of the Hideous Holley confused

andygtt

7,489 posts

151 months

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Crazy of Cookham said:
The AA are very good they came out a couple of months ago to start my Monaro 500bhp. He asked two telling questions. 1) What is a supercharger and 2) Is it front wheel drive!!!. Good luck
lmao

LuckyP

6,223 posts

112 months

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Don't you have a service contract with Gaz biggrin




mohrt

135 posts

97 months

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Maybe I'm missing something obvious, so correct me if this doesn't apply to an Ultima. I would think that pull-starting would start a flooded engine every time. If you are on a hill, roll it and pop the clutch. It shouldn't take much, pull it a short distance and it ought to fire right up. No waiting, no cranking, no AAA calls, no fuss.

Steve_D

9,463 posts

145 months

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mohrt said:
Maybe I'm missing something obvious, so correct me if this doesn't apply to an Ultima. I would think that pull-starting would start a flooded engine every time. If you are on a hill, roll it and pop the clutch. It shouldn't take much, pull it a short distance and it ought to fire right up. No waiting, no cranking, no AAA calls, no fuss.
No towing eye!!!!!!!!!!

Steve
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