What's the shelf life of petrol?

What's the shelf life of petrol?

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thewave

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14,698 posts

209 months

Monday 16th June 2008
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Supposing I had a suitable storage facility (ignore the regulations and all that other crap for a minute)

How long would, let's say, a jerry can full of petrol remain useful?



(I'm preparing for the Mad Max type scenarios hehe)

andyquantum

13,204 posts

204 months

Monday 16th June 2008
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Starts to go off and lose a bit of octane after a few weeks. I havent tried using any but I do have some thats been sat for almost a year now. Probably just water after all that time

planetdave

9,921 posts

253 months

Monday 16th June 2008
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I had a car sitting in my garage for well over a year - charged up the battery and away it went. So it stays useful for quite some time.

thewave

Original Poster:

14,698 posts

209 months

Monday 16th June 2008
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My thinking was that as long as it's sealed properly, then it shouldn't 'go off' as it can't vapourise (I assume that's the correct terminology?)

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As long as there's little air in the container of course.

Edited by thewave on Monday 16th June 17:32

richardxjr

7,561 posts

210 months

Monday 16th June 2008
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About 2 months, seriously.

It's not loss of octane as much as the varnish deposits which can clog injectors etc. Especially nasty for carbs. I have first hand experience of this.

A fuel stabiliser will keep it fresh for up to a year:

http://www.ready2race.co.uk/shop/shop.php?action=f...

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

260 months

Monday 16th June 2008
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thewave said:
My thinking was that as long as it's sealed properly, then it shouldn't 'go off' as it can't vapourise (I assume that's the correct terminology?)

ETA

As long as there's little air in the container of course.

Edited by thewave on Monday 16th June 17:32
Petrol,over time starts to degrade and loose its properties.

thewave

Original Poster:

14,698 posts

209 months

Monday 16th June 2008
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BLUETHUNDER said:
thewave said:
My thinking was that as long as it's sealed properly, then it shouldn't 'go off' as it can't vapourise (I assume that's the correct terminology?)

ETA

As long as there's little air in the container of course.

Edited by thewave on Monday 16th June 17:32
Petrol,over time starts to degrade and loose its properties.
I assumed this would be the case, but wondered how long it would be useful for.

So going off on a tangent slightly, is it possible for Joe Public to buy large quanities of fuel in advance, such like the large airline companies do?

What would be the minimum? For instance purchasing £10k of petrol in advance at 116p or something?

All hypothetical of course.

mr_fibuli

1,109 posts

195 months

Monday 16th June 2008
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My mower wouldn't start once the fuel in my jerry can got to about 3 or 4 years old - had to put a few drops into the cylinder to fire it up.

Got a fresh can of petrol this year and it starts on the first pull now.

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

260 months

Monday 16th June 2008
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thewave said:
BLUETHUNDER said:
thewave said:
My thinking was that as long as it's sealed properly, then it shouldn't 'go off' as it can't vapourise (I assume that's the correct terminology?)

ETA

As long as there's little air in the container of course.

Edited by thewave on Monday 16th June 17:32
Petrol,over time starts to degrade and loose its properties.
I assumed this would be the case, but wondered how long it would be useful for.

So going off on a tangent slightly, is it possible for Joe Public to buy large quanities of fuel in advance, such like the large airline companies do?

What would be the minimum? For instance purchasing £10k of petrol in advance at 116p or something?

All hypothetical of course.
Its illegal to store fuel for personnel use.

busta

4,504 posts

233 months

Monday 16th June 2008
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BLUETHUNDER said:
thewave said:
BLUETHUNDER said:
thewave said:
My thinking was that as long as it's sealed properly, then it shouldn't 'go off' as it can't vapourise (I assume that's the correct terminology?)

ETA

As long as there's little air in the container of course.

Edited by thewave on Monday 16th June 17:32
Petrol,over time starts to degrade and loose its properties.
I assumed this would be the case, but wondered how long it would be useful for.

So going off on a tangent slightly, is it possible for Joe Public to buy large quanities of fuel in advance, such like the large airline companies do?

What would be the minimum? For instance purchasing £10k of petrol in advance at 116p or something?

All hypothetical of course.
Its illegal to store fuel for personnel use.
Are you sure? Petrol perhaps, but I know several people that have diesel storage tanks.

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

260 months

Monday 16th June 2008
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busta said:
BLUETHUNDER said:
thewave said:
BLUETHUNDER said:
thewave said:
My thinking was that as long as it's sealed properly, then it shouldn't 'go off' as it can't vapourise (I assume that's the correct terminology?)

ETA

As long as there's little air in the container of course.

Edited by thewave on Monday 16th June 17:32
Petrol,over time starts to degrade and loose its properties.
I assumed this would be the case, but wondered how long it would be useful for.

So going off on a tangent slightly, is it possible for Joe Public to buy large quanities of fuel in advance, such like the large airline companies do?

What would be the minimum? For instance purchasing £10k of petrol in advance at 116p or something?

All hypothetical of course.
Its illegal to store fuel for personnel use.
Are you sure? Petrol perhaps, but I know several people that have diesel storage tanks.
Business and agriculture are exempt.But for personnel use to run a fleet of vehicles then no.I was given a flat no,when i enquired some years ago.

busta

4,504 posts

233 months

Monday 16th June 2008
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That'd be why then, all the people I know are in agriculture.

J111

3,354 posts

215 months

Monday 16th June 2008
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BLUETHUNDER said:
Its illegal to store fuel for personnel use.
It isn't, but you do have to jump through hoops (offsets from buildings, bunded vessels, notification to the council) to have more than 15l on your premises. If you follow the guidelines you can keep 275l of petrol for use in internal combustion engines.

thewave

Original Poster:

14,698 posts

209 months

Tuesday 17th June 2008
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BLUETHUNDER]quote said:
Its illegal to store fuel for personnel use.
It's also illegal to do 35mph in a 30mph limit

I wasn't so concerned with storage, more of the purchase in advance

funwithrevs

594 posts

195 months

Tuesday 17th June 2008
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Just to add to the fun, summer petrol is different from winter petrol nerd


Dave_ST220

10,294 posts

205 months

Tuesday 17th June 2008
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funwithrevs said:
Just to add to the fun, summer petrol is different from winter petrol nerd
In what way? I know this is true(or used to be when we had cold winters) for diesel??

Huntsman

8,054 posts

250 months

Tuesday 17th June 2008
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andyquantum said:
Probably just water after all that time
you are taking the piss?


AdamMX-5

2,419 posts

226 months

Tuesday 17th June 2008
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mr_fibuli said:
My mower wouldn't start once the fuel in my jerry can got to about 3 or 4 years old - had to put a few drops into the cylinder to fire it up.

Got a fresh can of petrol this year and it starts on the first pull now.
My strimmer was the same this year but I've decided, with no scientific evidence, that it must be because it's Petroil. The straight unleaded that was left over from last year, once I realised it was going to be of no use to me in the strimmer, worked fine in my better half's Bora (though we're only talking about a couple of litres dropped into a 50 litre tank of course!).

andyquantum

13,204 posts

204 months

Tuesday 17th June 2008
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No, it's not in a particularly airtight container

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Tuesday 17th June 2008
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline
Scroll down and down and down a bit furter and it mentions stabalisers to keep fuel for longer for small motors (e.g. strimmers)