Rear brake - 'chattering' at low speed
Rear brake - 'chattering' at low speed
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anonymous-user

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80 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Fleegle

16,710 posts

202 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Is it the pad not returning due to a sticky piston? How dirty is caliper?

Fleegle

16,710 posts

202 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Does it actually feel like the ABS pulsing? If so it could be dodgy management or even a slightly warped disc

LoonR1

26,988 posts

203 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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That's today's lesson learned. I didn't know bikes had rear brakes.

toxgobbler

2,903 posts

217 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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LoonR1 said:
That's today's lesson learned. I didn't know bikes had rear brakes.

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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LoonR1 said:
That's today's lesson learned. I didn't know bikes had rear brakes.
funny isn't it that even Moto GP bikes have a rear brake and they're there for a reason - to be used.

GTIR

24,741 posts

292 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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I had a similar thing with my kids in the back seat of my car chattering away.

I found a good book shuts them up. Shades of gray is a good start.

Speed addicted

6,284 posts

253 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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It could just be deposits on the disc, do you take it for a spin to dry them off after washing it?
Try doing a couple of fairly hard stops from 50 just using the rear and seee if it clears up.

Don't you get a warning light when the ABS is triggered?

Reardy Mister

13,758 posts

248 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Have you changed your footwear to something that reduces your feel and are therefore mashing the brake and locking it, without realising?

Hooli

32,278 posts

226 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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anonymous said:
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rofl


Carl-H

947 posts

232 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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I don't know much at all about bike ABS, but I'm sure cars are designed not to use ABS below 5-10mph (for in snow I believe). Maybe this is something similar where something's broke? Meaning the ABS is pulsing below the set speed?

LoonR1

26,988 posts

203 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Silver993tt said:
Funny isn't it that even Moto GP bikes have a rear brake and they're there for a reason - to be used.
Didn't John Hopkins say that the rear brake should be painted red and marked for emergency use only?

The rear on my bike isn't worth having, it does fk all.


sc0tt

18,265 posts

227 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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LoonR1 said:
Didn't John Hopkins say that the rear brake should be painted red and marked for emergency use only?

The rear on my bike isn't worth having, it does fk all.
Only ever used mine once, came in waaaaaay to hot on a roundabout. Glad its there.

Reardy Mister

13,758 posts

248 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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LoonR1 said:
Silver993tt said:
Funny isn't it that even Moto GP bikes have a rear brake and they're there for a reason - to be used.
Didn't John Hopkins say that the rear brake should be painted red and marked for emergency use only?

The rear on my bike isn't worth having, it does fk all.
Same. I use it occasionally to level the bike when braking with a pillion on or to lean on in a tight u-turn, but thats about it.

Hooli

32,278 posts

226 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Reardy Mister said:
LoonR1 said:
Silver993tt said:
Funny isn't it that even Moto GP bikes have a rear brake and they're there for a reason - to be used.
Didn't John Hopkins say that the rear brake should be painted red and marked for emergency use only?

The rear on my bike isn't worth having, it does fk all.
Same. I use it occasionally to level the bike when braking with a pillion on or to lean on in a tight u-turn, but thats about it.
Bet ya ride sports bikes. It's much more useful on other styles of bike which still have weight over the rear when braking.

/age old can of worms

Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,918 posts

242 months

Monday 23rd July 2012
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Hooli said:
Reardy Mister said:
LoonR1 said:
Silver993tt said:
Funny isn't it that even Moto GP bikes have a rear brake and they're there for a reason - to be used.
Didn't John Hopkins say that the rear brake should be painted red and marked for emergency use only?

The rear on my bike isn't worth having, it does fk all.
Same. I use it occasionally to level the bike when braking with a pillion on or to lean on in a tight u-turn, but thats about it.
Bet ya ride sports bikes. It's much more useful on other styles of bike which still have weight over the rear when braking.

/age old can of worms
biggrin There's a quote from - if I remember correctly - Wayne Rainey in one of Keith Code's books, which says 'I occasionally use the rear brake when I pull into the pit garage...'

Some do, some don't. When I was racing, I never did, but then again, I never ended up winning any BSB or WSB titles either, lol!

Interestingly, Mick Doohan had his thumb operated rear brake fitted after his busted leg disaster at Assen in '93, and he used to talk about how useful it was to control wheelspin?

And so, the argument rages on..... biggrin

LoonR1

26,988 posts

203 months

Thursday 9th August 2012
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anonymous said:
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If you've worn the rear pad out so quickly you may want to reassess your riding, the front brakes are far more effective at stopping you and probably a lot safer than using as much rear as you do. If you want to use some rear that's fine, but to wear a pad out in such a short time is quite astonishing.

PS - you don't "grab" at the front brake.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

203 months

Thursday 9th August 2012
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anonymous said:
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The thing is that rear brakes are crap on bikes and do very little. I filtered loads when I used to commute on a bike, but never bothered with the rear brake. Each to their own, but you need to lift your foot off it.

Motorbike brakes are very different to pushbikes.

Yazza54

20,267 posts

207 months

Thursday 9th August 2012
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What's a rear brake?

Speed addicted

6,284 posts

253 months

Friday 10th August 2012
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I use the rear brake for low speed stuff, like filtering and in towns as it has less effect on the suspension and leaves my hand free for angrily blipping the throttle to alert the car muppets. I also use if more in the wet.
Anything higher speed is front or both.