gear box oil
gear box oil
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mikel003003

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1,084 posts

192 months

Saturday 11th May 2013
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When I removed my Speedo drive I was expecting oil to pour out ,it didn't just a few drips this normal? Am about to replace the drive and cap and thought I would top up the oil while I was there any recommendations ? Thanks

glenrobbo

39,901 posts

176 months

Saturday 11th May 2013
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IIRC the oil level should be 2 or 3mm below the level of the filler plug hole which is located on the LH (passenger) side of the main gear casing. You can measure it using a piece of wire bent in a right angle, as a dipstick. There is no drain plug, you have to suck it out with a squeezy bottle & tube.
Best done after a run when it's still warm & any loose particles are still in suspension in the oil. Suck out all you can, because it's not good to mix different types. Don't burn yourself on the exhaust though.

Somebody will be along in a moment with recommended grade & make.

Edited by glenrobbo on Saturday 11th May 19:40

mikel003003

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1,084 posts

192 months

Saturday 11th May 2013
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won't be able to warm the oil unfortunatly, have loosened the Allen bolt no problem there but some ford sites say fill it to the brim the bible says2mm from the top

glenrobbo

39,901 posts

176 months

Saturday 11th May 2013
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Aaah. Sorry Mikel, I forgot you had the body off!
I was getting my Mikes micksed up!

I really can't imagine that 2mm will make much difference in the grand scheme of things as long as the shaft seals are good. Better 2mm too much than none at all.
Unless someone knows different?

phillpot

17,489 posts

209 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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glenrobbo said:
I really can't imagine that 2mm will make much difference in the grand scheme of things
Totally agree, don't bother messing around with bits of bent wire trying to gauge 2mm below the hole. Fill until oil starts to dribble out, job done.

If Ford wanted 2mm less oil in the box why didn't they make the hole 2mm lower? Can anyone really imagine garage mechanics fannying around trying to measure 2mm every time they check / top up a gearbox !

Maffe

479 posts

285 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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The advise I got from a ford mechanic was to use Quakerstate mineral oil 85w-140 LS (if memory serves me) in the gearbox and fill it level with the plug. That was what they used in racing cars with typ9 gearbox

glenrobbo

39,901 posts

176 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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Maffe said:
The advise I got from a ford mechanic was to use Quakerstate mineral oil 85w-140 LS (if memory serves me) in the gearbox and fill it level with the plug. That was what they used in racing cars with typ9 gearbox
I think that may be the Pennzoil brand here in the UK scratchchin

phillpot

17,489 posts

209 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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I was reccommended this stuff by Opie Oils

Maffe

479 posts

285 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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Might be my memory, I´ll ask the mec-guy tomorrow when he runs the diagnostic tool on my s3 wink

mikel003003

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1,084 posts

192 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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All good solid advise thank you job still not done but have made a tool to suck the oil out baby steps as always but getting there

Maffe

479 posts

285 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Maffe said:
The advise I got from a ford mechanic was to use Quakerstate mineral oil 85w-140 LS (if memory serves me) in the gearbox and fill it level with the plug. That was what they used in racing cars with typ9 gearbox
My memory was playing tricks on with me...

Quakerstate Quadrolube mineral 75w in the gearbox and 85-140 LS in the diff, maybe the "LS" would have made my thing a little;)

mikel003003

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1,084 posts

192 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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bible says gl5 75/90 ?

mikel003003

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192 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Synthetic or semi ?

TVR-Stu

836 posts

225 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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phillpot said:
I was reccommended this stuff by Opie Oils
Have you used it Mike? If so any good?

Edited as I have just got a response from Opie Oils but they recommended Red Line ATF D4 for me. Confused!! confused

Their reply: You need an ATF and the best options are the Redline D4, Amsoil ATF and Fuchs ATF 5000. Castrol Transmax Dex III, Motul Dexron III, Fuchs ATF 4000 and Millers ATF DM are fine as cheaper alternatives.

Anyone want to help me decide what to go for in the gearbox oil lucky dip?

Edited by TVR-Stu on Monday 13th May 14:01

Maffe

479 posts

285 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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mikel003003 said:
Synthetic or semi ?
Both mineral, don´t know what the bible say but in this case I take the word from the oldtimer working with Ford all his life and have experience with rally/racing with Ford stuff smile

mikel003003

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192 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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Sorry mis read your priveous post

adam quantrill

11,648 posts

268 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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If you have your car jacked up like in the photo at the top of this thread, when it brims it will be exactly 2mm from the top. Either that, or 2mm over......

phillpot

17,489 posts

209 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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TVR-Stu said:
phillpot said:
I was reccommended this stuff by Opie Oils
Have you used it Mike? If so any good?

Edited as I have just got a response from Opie Oils but they recommended Red Line ATF D4 for me. Confused!! confused
I'd honestly struggle to say I noticed any difference.

As for the old ATF or gear oil "discussion" I'll keep out of that one but no mention of ATF in any of my Haynes Sierra or Granada books.


I was warned about using fully synthetics in old (bronze synchro ring) gearbox's after I'd put that stuff in, although it does say it is ok, no sulphurs to attack the bronze. But the guy I was talking to, a trade stand at a car show, reckoned synthetics can be too good and the bronze synchro rings can't "cut through" quickly enough to do their job ?

Sorry I've taken so long to reply to your question

mikel003003

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192 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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I still haven't decided , I don't really want to pay through the nose the bible and Haynes says gl5 75w 90 there's some on eBay but its semi synthetic can't find any mineral as recommended previously

TVR-Stu

836 posts

225 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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phillpot said:
I was warned about using fully synthetics in old (bronze synchro ring) gearbox's after I'd put that stuff in, although it does say it is ok, no sulphurs to attack the bronze. But the guy I was talking to, a trade stand at a car show, reckoned synthetics can be too good and the bronze synchro rings can't "cut through" quickly enough to do their job ?
I've seen this mentioned on loads of Ford and kitcar forums that use the type nine. I usually trust Opie Oils but think I'll keep to something more 'period' in this instance. Thanks Mike.