Bad one, Canning Town A13
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Rosscow said:
Does not sound good 
Word on the "street" was that you are right I'm afraid.This is the part of the road below
Cars generally sit in the left lane (as you look at the picture) as the right lane peels off elsewhere. Then bikes then aim for the middle of the far left and right lane. It looked as if the lorry had cut across the centre to the left.
Stay away from buses, HGVs and any large vehicles if you are on a motorbike. Don't even filter past them unless you are very sure you can make it well before anybody starts to move.
One wrong move can turn what would otherwise be a very minor topple over into getting squashed by a truck. 5 or so years living in developing countries and all the fatal bike crashes I've seen (which is a few) have been bike vs truck.
One wrong move can turn what would otherwise be a very minor topple over into getting squashed by a truck. 5 or so years living in developing countries and all the fatal bike crashes I've seen (which is a few) have been bike vs truck.
Badly injured but still with us.
http://www.wharf.co.uk/2013/05/rush-hour-choas-cau...
That road is a flipping nightmare. I have been using it for a couple of months now and that 50mph average speed camera b
ks makes it very dangerous in my opinion although in no way suggesting that this caused today's accident.
With everyone traveling at the same speed so that there is no or little differential between each vehicle makes everyone dozy and stupid. I've been nearly side swiped a number of times by idiots chopping lanes and just not looking, with me in the lane that they want stuck at 50 when I really would like to get past the dozy git in front of me.
According to the above article the accident happened at 0640 but when I went to get my lunch at 1245 by Beckton the A13 was still pretty stationary.
http://www.wharf.co.uk/2013/05/rush-hour-choas-cau...
That road is a flipping nightmare. I have been using it for a couple of months now and that 50mph average speed camera b
ks makes it very dangerous in my opinion although in no way suggesting that this caused today's accident.With everyone traveling at the same speed so that there is no or little differential between each vehicle makes everyone dozy and stupid. I've been nearly side swiped a number of times by idiots chopping lanes and just not looking, with me in the lane that they want stuck at 50 when I really would like to get past the dozy git in front of me.
According to the above article the accident happened at 0640 but when I went to get my lunch at 1245 by Beckton the A13 was still pretty stationary.
The biker involved is one of my friends and one of my employees. He's been undergoing surgery for most of the day and the next 24 hours are critical. He's only 22 and quite fit which is all on his side so fingers crossed he'll pull through. Apparently the crash was him vs a crane. He would have been exiting the flyover from lane one to get to work. He's been riding for a year or so, first a CBR125 and more recently an SV650. He's a lovely guy but I've no idea what his riding style is like and can't speculate as to blame or cause. Road was closed for five hours for recovery and accident investigation.
It's a horrible stretch of road. I've 22 years driving experience, 3 years ADI experience and 1 year commuting on a CG125 in London and driving this road twice daily for the last seven years it still regularly worries me. I think it's the only road I know where it's dangerous to travel at the speed limit because the average traffic speed is so much higher. I usually aim for as close to the limit as possible because I appreciate the dangers on this bit of road, however most do not so it's not uncommon for the traffic in this 30+ area to be doing well over 50. Add in the terrible lane discipline of East London drivers, the bizzarre central reservation between lanes two/three and the people pushing from lane two in to the lane one queue at the last minute and it's all a recipe for disaster.
I'll let you all know how he's doing when I know some more.
It's a horrible stretch of road. I've 22 years driving experience, 3 years ADI experience and 1 year commuting on a CG125 in London and driving this road twice daily for the last seven years it still regularly worries me. I think it's the only road I know where it's dangerous to travel at the speed limit because the average traffic speed is so much higher. I usually aim for as close to the limit as possible because I appreciate the dangers on this bit of road, however most do not so it's not uncommon for the traffic in this 30+ area to be doing well over 50. Add in the terrible lane discipline of East London drivers, the bizzarre central reservation between lanes two/three and the people pushing from lane two in to the lane one queue at the last minute and it's all a recipe for disaster.
I'll let you all know how he's doing when I know some more.
milkypirate said:
The biker involved is one of my friends and one of my employees. He's been undergoing surgery for most of the day and the next 24 hours are critical. He's only 22 and quite fit which is all on his side so fingers crossed he'll pull through. Apparently the crash was him vs a crane. He would have been exiting the flyover from lane one to get to work. He's been riding for a year or so, first a CBR125 and more recently an SV650. He's a lovely guy but I've no idea what his riding style is like and can't speculate as to blame or cause. Road was closed for five hours for recovery and accident investigation.
It's a horrible stretch of road. I've 22 years driving experience, 3 years ADI experience and 1 year commuting on a CG125 in London and driving this road twice daily for the last seven years it still regularly worries me. I think it's the only road I know where it's dangerous to travel at the speed limit because the average traffic speed is so much higher. I usually aim for as close to the limit as possible because I appreciate the dangers on this bit of road, however most do not so it's not uncommon for the traffic in this 30+ area to be doing well over 50. Add in the terrible lane discipline of East London drivers, the bizzarre central reservation between lanes two/three and the people pushing from lane two in to the lane one queue at the last minute and it's all a recipe for disaster.
I'll let you all know how he's doing when I know some more.
This happens to be my best friend, he is a very safe rider and has rode those roads many many times before on his commute. It's a horrible stretch of road. I've 22 years driving experience, 3 years ADI experience and 1 year commuting on a CG125 in London and driving this road twice daily for the last seven years it still regularly worries me. I think it's the only road I know where it's dangerous to travel at the speed limit because the average traffic speed is so much higher. I usually aim for as close to the limit as possible because I appreciate the dangers on this bit of road, however most do not so it's not uncommon for the traffic in this 30+ area to be doing well over 50. Add in the terrible lane discipline of East London drivers, the bizzarre central reservation between lanes two/three and the people pushing from lane two in to the lane one queue at the last minute and it's all a recipe for disaster.
I'll let you all know how he's doing when I know some more.
Those roads are some of the most dangerous I know for bad drivers too
Burgman400 said:
milkypirate said:
The biker involved is one of my friends and one of my employees. He's been undergoing surgery for most of the day and the next 24 hours are critical. He's only 22 and quite fit which is all on his side so fingers crossed he'll pull through. Apparently the crash was him vs a crane. He would have been exiting the flyover from lane one to get to work. He's been riding for a year or so, first a CBR125 and more recently an SV650. He's a lovely guy but I've no idea what his riding style is like and can't speculate as to blame or cause. Road was closed for five hours for recovery and accident investigation.
It's a horrible stretch of road. I've 22 years driving experience, 3 years ADI experience and 1 year commuting on a CG125 in London and driving this road twice daily for the last seven years it still regularly worries me. I think it's the only road I know where it's dangerous to travel at the speed limit because the average traffic speed is so much higher. I usually aim for as close to the limit as possible because I appreciate the dangers on this bit of road, however most do not so it's not uncommon for the traffic in this 30+ area to be doing well over 50. Add in the terrible lane discipline of East London drivers, the bizzarre central reservation between lanes two/three and the people pushing from lane two in to the lane one queue at the last minute and it's all a recipe for disaster.
I'll let you all know how he's doing when I know some more.
This happens to be my best friend, he is a very safe rider and has rode those roads many many times before on his commute. It's a horrible stretch of road. I've 22 years driving experience, 3 years ADI experience and 1 year commuting on a CG125 in London and driving this road twice daily for the last seven years it still regularly worries me. I think it's the only road I know where it's dangerous to travel at the speed limit because the average traffic speed is so much higher. I usually aim for as close to the limit as possible because I appreciate the dangers on this bit of road, however most do not so it's not uncommon for the traffic in this 30+ area to be doing well over 50. Add in the terrible lane discipline of East London drivers, the bizzarre central reservation between lanes two/three and the people pushing from lane two in to the lane one queue at the last minute and it's all a recipe for disaster.
I'll let you all know how he's doing when I know some more.
Those roads are some of the most dangerous I know for bad drivers too
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