Are Aston REALLY an embarrassment?
Are Aston REALLY an embarrassment?

Poll: Are Aston REALLY an embarrassment?

Total Members Polled: 117

Aston should repair it for free: 28%
Aston should make a contribution: 32%
Its out of warranty. It's his problem: 40%
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peterr96

Original Poster:

2,226 posts

201 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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So we've seen Mojos thread about how he feels it's unacceptable that Aston are not prepared to repair his bubble car for free.
And we love a poll.

What do we think.... realistic goals or not?
For clarity:-
He bought it with undisclosed number of prior owners from a non-franchised dealer. I think its a 57 plate.
He does not have an ongoing relationship with any AM dealer for service

yeti

10,609 posts

301 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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What is the actual question, 'should Aston repair it?' or 'will Aston repair it?'

Should there also be a caveat saying 'should they repair it if you act like spoiled brat and refuse to listen to those who know much more about it than you, have been through it and have an understanding of it?' scratchchin

Oh and Pete, you've spelt embarrassment correctly FFS rolleyes

chr15b

3,467 posts

216 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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before i vote.. are the cars covered by an anti-corrosion warranty?

Jon39

14,678 posts

169 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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peterr96 said:
And we love a poll.
Human nature means that we are far more likely to complain than praise.

Therefore, I wonder if it might be only a small percentage of Aston Martins, that are affected by 'bubbles' in the paintwork.

It would also be interesting to know which model year cars are affected, and with how many individual 'bubbles'.

Does anyone want to start a poll thread?

goorwich

6,438 posts

168 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Noooooo.
Nine bleedin' pages of the other thread and now this.
Please give my typing digit a break. rantingblablapunchbanghead

v8woollie

4,363 posts

171 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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chr15b said:
before i vote.. are the cars covered by an anti-corrosion warranty?
This is irrelevant as the bubbling is not caused by corrosion as has been discussed at length on the other thread.

whoami

13,194 posts

266 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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peterr96 said:
So we've seen Mojos thread about how he feels it's unacceptable that Aston are not prepared to repair his bubble car for free.
And we love a poll.

What do we think.... realistic goals or not?
For clarity:-
He bought it with undisclosed number of prior owners from a non-franchised dealer. I think its a 57 plate.
He does not have an ongoing relationship with any AM dealer for service
So are you just referring to this individual car/case?

Many owners have been told to feck off (or offered a derisory "goodwill" gesture) when their cars were supplied by a main dealer and were considerably younger.

Would you consider their cases as being different?

goorwich

6,438 posts

168 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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With respect to the OP gentlemen it might be more useful to current and future owners if we had a simple poll of how many owners have had the same problem.
This would then give ammunition to anybody who had to deal with a main dealer or Aston regarding this issue.
A simple yes or no would suffice without having to go through all the ranting and personal recriminations .
My car had the problem.

AMDBSNick

7,206 posts

188 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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goorwich said:
My car had the problem.
My car doesn't but if it did it would be the least of it's problems rolleyes

Tony V12V

2,465 posts

178 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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AMDBSNick said:
goorwich said:
My car had the problem.
My car doesn't but if it did it would be the least of it's problems rolleyes
All of which seem to have manifested themselves since a certain bank robber got his fingerprint less hands on it scratchchin

john ryan

542 posts

158 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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'With respect to the OP gentlemen it might be more useful to current and future owners if we had a simple poll of how many owners have had the same problem'

My car had a problem, but before my ownership......Ain't this fun

goorwich

6,438 posts

168 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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john ryan said:
'With respect to the OP gentlemen it might be more useful to current and future owners if we had a simple poll of how many owners have had the same problem'

My car had a problem, but before my ownership......Ain't this fun
Trust you to throw a spanner in the works.
Great fun.......what a sad life I lead. cry

Cockernee

3,059 posts

186 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Tony V12V said:
AMDBSNick said:
goorwich said:
My car had the problem.
My car doesn't but if it did it would be the least of it's problems rolleyes
All of which seem to have manifested themselves since a certain bank robber got his fingerprint less hands on it scratchchin
hehe, I am only responsible for brake wear, not bird attacks nono

897sma

3,599 posts

170 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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My car is 6 years old and has some paint bubbles. It's not Astons problem it's mine. If I had a 7 year old Ford/Vauxhall/Mercedes*/etc with paint defects (not rust or corrosion or deterioration of the structure of the car) which are only just manifesting themselves I wouldn't dream of expecting them to pay, nor be upset when they told me to fk off. Why would I for AM? Do I also get them to put on new tyres because I've worn them out or come and give it a wash because it's dirty? No. Get over yourself, it's not a new car and it WILL deteriorate over time...all of it - paint, body, chassis, engine, leather,etc.,...

I need to get mine done and have a guy coming to have a look on Friday to quote me, I've used him before and he's pretty good so I'll feed back.

*I had a C Class some years ago which had a new boot under warranty as the lock had rusted out but it was about 18 months old at the time

Neil1300R

5,691 posts

204 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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goorwich said:
With respect to the OP gentlemen it might be more useful to current and future owners if we had a simple poll of how many owners have had the same problem.
This would then give ammunition to anybody who had to deal with a main dealer or Aston regarding this issue.
A simple yes or no would suffice without having to go through all the ranting and personal recriminations .
My car had the problem.
Would be useful if the poll was by year, so we can see if it is affecting cars later than MY07

goorwich

6,438 posts

168 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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897sma said:
My car is 6 years old and has some paint bubbles. It's not Astons problem it's mine. If I had a 7 year old Ford/Vauxhall/Mercedes*/etc with paint defects (not rust or corrosion or deterioration of the structure of the car) which are only just manifesting themselves I wouldn't dream of expecting them to pay, nor be upset when they told me to fk off. Why would I for AM? Do I also get them to put on new tyres because I've worn them out or come and give it a wash because it's dirty? No. Get over yourself, it's not a new car and it WILL deteriorate over time...all of it - paint, body, chassis, engine, leather,etc.,...

I need to get mine done and have a guy coming to have a look on Friday to quote me, I've used him before and he's pretty good so I'll feed back.

*I had a C Class some years ago which had a new boot under warranty as the lock had rusted out but it was about 18 months old at the time
Dear Steve, I don't know if you have read the many posts on this subject .
Briefly,the paint defect was caused by a problem due to prep/ application at the factory.
As such owners have discussed the attitude of Aston Martin to this problem.
I think your analogies do not conflate with this particular problem .

Edited by goorwich on Wednesday 22 May 16:23

goorwich

6,438 posts

168 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Neil1300R said:
Would be useful if the poll was by year, so we can see if it is affecting cars later than MY07
A good idea.

Jockman

18,396 posts

186 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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goorwich said:
Neil1300R said:
Would be useful if the poll was by year, so we can see if it is affecting cars later than MY07
A good idea.
I've already said mine is an 09 DB9 and it had those imperfections sorted in 2012 smile

drmw

190 posts

166 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Guys - appreciate everyone will have his own take on this based primarily on whether they have been affected or not & how AM responded in the end.

I think though that it is important not to fall out over it - that will only encourage AM to hold up two fingers if they believe we are all at odds with each other & they can get away with it.

The important thing to keep in mind is that the bubbles aren't caused by rust, it isn't perforation & in some cases (like mine on a plastic wing) it isn't corrosion of any sort - it was caused by bad preparation and/or incompatible materials, so nothing to do with wear & tear, sod all to do with number of owners, just an event waiting to happen caused by defects that were present before the cars even rolled out the factory doors

outofstepuk

1,258 posts

178 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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If you're buying a second hand car out of the main warranty there's all sorts of costs that might come along. As this is a known issue for years, perhaps it's something people should consider might happen and work that into how much a car is worth to them before they buy.