Are Aston REALLY an embarrassment?
Poll: Are Aston REALLY an embarrassment?
Total Members Polled: 117
Discussion
So we've seen Mojos thread about how he feels it's unacceptable that Aston are not prepared to repair his bubble car for free.
And we love a poll.
What do we think.... realistic goals or not?
For clarity:-
He bought it with undisclosed number of prior owners from a non-franchised dealer. I think its a 57 plate.
He does not have an ongoing relationship with any AM dealer for service
And we love a poll.
What do we think.... realistic goals or not?
For clarity:-
He bought it with undisclosed number of prior owners from a non-franchised dealer. I think its a 57 plate.
He does not have an ongoing relationship with any AM dealer for service
What is the actual question, 'should Aston repair it?' or 'will Aston repair it?'
Should there also be a caveat saying 'should they repair it if you act like spoiled brat and refuse to listen to those who know much more about it than you, have been through it and have an understanding of it?'
Oh and Pete, you've spelt embarrassment correctly FFS
Should there also be a caveat saying 'should they repair it if you act like spoiled brat and refuse to listen to those who know much more about it than you, have been through it and have an understanding of it?'

Oh and Pete, you've spelt embarrassment correctly FFS

peterr96 said:
And we love a poll.
Human nature means that we are far more likely to complain than praise.Therefore, I wonder if it might be only a small percentage of Aston Martins, that are affected by 'bubbles' in the paintwork.
It would also be interesting to know which model year cars are affected, and with how many individual 'bubbles'.
Does anyone want to start a poll thread?
peterr96 said:
So we've seen Mojos thread about how he feels it's unacceptable that Aston are not prepared to repair his bubble car for free.
And we love a poll.
What do we think.... realistic goals or not?
For clarity:-
He bought it with undisclosed number of prior owners from a non-franchised dealer. I think its a 57 plate.
He does not have an ongoing relationship with any AM dealer for service
So are you just referring to this individual car/case?And we love a poll.
What do we think.... realistic goals or not?
For clarity:-
He bought it with undisclosed number of prior owners from a non-franchised dealer. I think its a 57 plate.
He does not have an ongoing relationship with any AM dealer for service
Many owners have been told to feck off (or offered a derisory "goodwill" gesture) when their cars were supplied by a main dealer and were considerably younger.
Would you consider their cases as being different?
With respect to the OP gentlemen it might be more useful to current and future owners if we had a simple poll of how many owners have had the same problem.
This would then give ammunition to anybody who had to deal with a main dealer or Aston regarding this issue.
A simple yes or no would suffice without having to go through all the ranting and personal recriminations .
My car had the problem.
This would then give ammunition to anybody who had to deal with a main dealer or Aston regarding this issue.
A simple yes or no would suffice without having to go through all the ranting and personal recriminations .
My car had the problem.
john ryan said:
'With respect to the OP gentlemen it might be more useful to current and future owners if we had a simple poll of how many owners have had the same problem'
My car had a problem, but before my ownership......Ain't this fun
Trust you to throw a spanner in the works.My car had a problem, but before my ownership......Ain't this fun
Great fun.......what a sad life I lead.

Tony V12V said:
AMDBSNick said:
goorwich said:
My car had the problem.
My car doesn't but if it did it would be the least of it's problems 

, I am only responsible for brake wear, not bird attacks 
My car is 6 years old and has some paint bubbles. It's not Astons problem it's mine. If I had a 7 year old Ford/Vauxhall/Mercedes*/etc with paint defects (not rust or corrosion or deterioration of the structure of the car) which are only just manifesting themselves I wouldn't dream of expecting them to pay, nor be upset when they told me to f
k off. Why would I for AM? Do I also get them to put on new tyres because I've worn them out or come and give it a wash because it's dirty? No. Get over yourself, it's not a new car and it WILL deteriorate over time...all of it - paint, body, chassis, engine, leather,etc.,...
I need to get mine done and have a guy coming to have a look on Friday to quote me, I've used him before and he's pretty good so I'll feed back.
*I had a C Class some years ago which had a new boot under warranty as the lock had rusted out but it was about 18 months old at the time
k off. Why would I for AM? Do I also get them to put on new tyres because I've worn them out or come and give it a wash because it's dirty? No. Get over yourself, it's not a new car and it WILL deteriorate over time...all of it - paint, body, chassis, engine, leather,etc.,...I need to get mine done and have a guy coming to have a look on Friday to quote me, I've used him before and he's pretty good so I'll feed back.
*I had a C Class some years ago which had a new boot under warranty as the lock had rusted out but it was about 18 months old at the time
goorwich said:
With respect to the OP gentlemen it might be more useful to current and future owners if we had a simple poll of how many owners have had the same problem.
This would then give ammunition to anybody who had to deal with a main dealer or Aston regarding this issue.
A simple yes or no would suffice without having to go through all the ranting and personal recriminations .
My car had the problem.
Would be useful if the poll was by year, so we can see if it is affecting cars later than MY07This would then give ammunition to anybody who had to deal with a main dealer or Aston regarding this issue.
A simple yes or no would suffice without having to go through all the ranting and personal recriminations .
My car had the problem.
897sma said:
My car is 6 years old and has some paint bubbles. It's not Astons problem it's mine. If I had a 7 year old Ford/Vauxhall/Mercedes*/etc with paint defects (not rust or corrosion or deterioration of the structure of the car) which are only just manifesting themselves I wouldn't dream of expecting them to pay, nor be upset when they told me to f
k off. Why would I for AM? Do I also get them to put on new tyres because I've worn them out or come and give it a wash because it's dirty? No. Get over yourself, it's not a new car and it WILL deteriorate over time...all of it - paint, body, chassis, engine, leather,etc.,...
I need to get mine done and have a guy coming to have a look on Friday to quote me, I've used him before and he's pretty good so I'll feed back.
*I had a C Class some years ago which had a new boot under warranty as the lock had rusted out but it was about 18 months old at the time
Dear Steve, I don't know if you have read the many posts on this subject .
k off. Why would I for AM? Do I also get them to put on new tyres because I've worn them out or come and give it a wash because it's dirty? No. Get over yourself, it's not a new car and it WILL deteriorate over time...all of it - paint, body, chassis, engine, leather,etc.,...I need to get mine done and have a guy coming to have a look on Friday to quote me, I've used him before and he's pretty good so I'll feed back.
*I had a C Class some years ago which had a new boot under warranty as the lock had rusted out but it was about 18 months old at the time
Briefly,the paint defect was caused by a problem due to prep/ application at the factory.
As such owners have discussed the attitude of Aston Martin to this problem.
I think your analogies do not conflate with this particular problem .
Edited by goorwich on Wednesday 22 May 16:23
Guys - appreciate everyone will have his own take on this based primarily on whether they have been affected or not & how AM responded in the end.
I think though that it is important not to fall out over it - that will only encourage AM to hold up two fingers if they believe we are all at odds with each other & they can get away with it.
The important thing to keep in mind is that the bubbles aren't caused by rust, it isn't perforation & in some cases (like mine on a plastic wing) it isn't corrosion of any sort - it was caused by bad preparation and/or incompatible materials, so nothing to do with wear & tear, sod all to do with number of owners, just an event waiting to happen caused by defects that were present before the cars even rolled out the factory doors
I think though that it is important not to fall out over it - that will only encourage AM to hold up two fingers if they believe we are all at odds with each other & they can get away with it.
The important thing to keep in mind is that the bubbles aren't caused by rust, it isn't perforation & in some cases (like mine on a plastic wing) it isn't corrosion of any sort - it was caused by bad preparation and/or incompatible materials, so nothing to do with wear & tear, sod all to do with number of owners, just an event waiting to happen caused by defects that were present before the cars even rolled out the factory doors
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