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They are not there just to amuse, however. They run breeding program's, and so on. The 'viewing' is merely a way to fund such things. Closing them will solve what?
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Some animals play a significant role in keeping the environment stable. Most animals don't go extinct because their environment won't support them but because t
ts with guns keep on shooting them. I imagine that if we could protect animals from said tts then some could probably return to the wild.
ts with guns keep on shooting them. I imagine that if we could protect animals from said tts then some could probably return to the wild.JohnnyJones said:
It's not necessary.
If an animal's natural habitat can no longer support it then let it become extinct. More species have become extinct that exist today.
What would it solve? Thousands of animals wouldn't be unnecessarily imprisoned.
Take a look at the effect 'man' has had on these animals natural habitat.If an animal's natural habitat can no longer support it then let it become extinct. More species have become extinct that exist today.
What would it solve? Thousands of animals wouldn't be unnecessarily imprisoned.
Then ask yourself the same question.
JohnnyJones said:
TheHeretic said:
Do you take medicine?
For what?Oh, just seen the username, so it's the same well thought out contribution we're used to.
Someone was mauled by a tiger. That is because they are large predators, and we have no place being near them. However, the work zoos do is for the better.
I suggest you consider your own contribution before worrying about mine. Let me guess, you are the sort who posts something, then gets annoyed when someone disagrees? Going directly to insult shows your personality, I'm afraid.
I welcome a reasoned debate. I don't see how "Do you take medicine" contributes to that.
Taking medicine (which I don't do) is a lot different to keeping a species which has no natural habitat alive.
And keep it alive for what? Woulkd you have a captive colony of dodos kept alive just so you can go and look at them?
As I said, cruel and unnecessary.
Taking medicine (which I don't do) is a lot different to keeping a species which has no natural habitat alive.
And keep it alive for what? Woulkd you have a captive colony of dodos kept alive just so you can go and look at them?
As I said, cruel and unnecessary.
They are not kept alive just for you to go and look at them. That is a menagerie, not a zoo. Do some research, I have given you one link, there are plenty of others.
The medicine thing, by the way, (and how convenient you don't take medicine
), is simply wondering whether you consider 'not able to survive without help' to apply to yourself. Quite simple.
The medicine thing, by the way, (and how convenient you don't take medicine
), is simply wondering whether you consider 'not able to survive without help' to apply to yourself. Quite simple. Edited by TheHeretic on Saturday 25th May 08:35
I did some research.
"A zoo (short for zoological park or zoological garden, and also called a menagerie) is a facility in which animals are confined within enclosures, displayed to the public, and in which they may also be bred."
Theres nothing in your link or any other web page I can find to suggest that zoos do anything more useful than keeping species in captivity for the enjoyment of humans. They attempt to justify this by keeping species alive that should be extinct alive in captivity for the enjoyment of humans but that's about all.
"A zoo (short for zoological park or zoological garden, and also called a menagerie) is a facility in which animals are confined within enclosures, displayed to the public, and in which they may also be bred."
Theres nothing in your link or any other web page I can find to suggest that zoos do anything more useful than keeping species in captivity for the enjoyment of humans. They attempt to justify this by keeping species alive that should be extinct alive in captivity for the enjoyment of humans but that's about all.
JohnnyJones said:
I did some research.
"A zoo (short for zoological park or zoological garden, and also called a menagerie) is a facility in which animals are confined within enclosures, displayed to the public, and in which they may also be bred."
Theres nothing in your link or any other web page I can find to suggest that zoos do anything more useful than keeping species in captivity for the enjoyment of humans. They attempt to justify this by keeping species alive that should be extinct alive in captivity for the enjoyment of humans but that's about all.
If you say so."A zoo (short for zoological park or zoological garden, and also called a menagerie) is a facility in which animals are confined within enclosures, displayed to the public, and in which they may also be bred."
Theres nothing in your link or any other web page I can find to suggest that zoos do anything more useful than keeping species in captivity for the enjoyment of humans. They attempt to justify this by keeping species alive that should be extinct alive in captivity for the enjoyment of humans but that's about all.
JohnnyJones said:
I did some research.
"A zoo (short for zoological park or zoological garden, and also called a menagerie) is a facility in which animals are confined within enclosures, displayed to the public, and in which they may also be bred."
Theres nothing in your link or any other web page I can find to suggest that zoos do anything more useful than keeping species in captivity for the enjoyment of humans. They attempt to justify this by keeping species alive that should be extinct alive in captivity for the enjoyment of humans but that's about all.
So if my chums and I go out shooting Johnny Polar Bear he and his family should become extinct?"A zoo (short for zoological park or zoological garden, and also called a menagerie) is a facility in which animals are confined within enclosures, displayed to the public, and in which they may also be bred."
Theres nothing in your link or any other web page I can find to suggest that zoos do anything more useful than keeping species in captivity for the enjoyment of humans. They attempt to justify this by keeping species alive that should be extinct alive in captivity for the enjoyment of humans but that's about all.
JohnnyJones said:
I welcome a reasoned debate. I don't see how "Do you take medicine" contributes to that.
Taking medicine (which I don't do) is a lot different to keeping a species which has no natural habitat alive.
And keep it alive for what? Woulkd you have a captive colony of dodos kept alive just so you can go and look at them?
As I said, cruel and unnecessary.
You never take medicine. At all?Taking medicine (which I don't do) is a lot different to keeping a species which has no natural habitat alive.
And keep it alive for what? Woulkd you have a captive colony of dodos kept alive just so you can go and look at them?
As I said, cruel and unnecessary.
Chinny reckon.
The ZSL website says many positive thins about its work as a charity for animals.
However, having visited many different safari parks and zoos over the years, I was upset about conditions in the ZSL ones and if that was my only experience of them I would think they are terrible.
Mostly confined cages with animals that look unhappy or angry, and don't look the most healthy.
Compare that with longest or Cotswolds and its a whole other world.
I wouldn't ever pay £21 a person to visit a ZSL zoo again.
They may do decent work behind the scenes, but it doesn't mean they have to try and fit in as many animals in as they can
However, having visited many different safari parks and zoos over the years, I was upset about conditions in the ZSL ones and if that was my only experience of them I would think they are terrible.
Mostly confined cages with animals that look unhappy or angry, and don't look the most healthy.
Compare that with longest or Cotswolds and its a whole other world.
I wouldn't ever pay £21 a person to visit a ZSL zoo again.
They may do decent work behind the scenes, but it doesn't mean they have to try and fit in as many animals in as they can
Edited by Ilikebeaver on Saturday 25th May 09:15
JohnnyJones said:
I did some research.
"A zoo (short for zoological park or zoological garden, and also called a menagerie) is a facility in which animals are confined within enclosures, displayed to the public, and in which they may also be bred."
Theres nothing in your link or any other web page I can find to suggest that zoos do anything more useful than keeping species in captivity for the enjoyment of humans. They attempt to justify this by keeping species alive that should be extinct alive in captivity for the enjoyment of humans but that's about all.
Are you serious?"A zoo (short for zoological park or zoological garden, and also called a menagerie) is a facility in which animals are confined within enclosures, displayed to the public, and in which they may also be bred."
Theres nothing in your link or any other web page I can find to suggest that zoos do anything more useful than keeping species in captivity for the enjoyment of humans. They attempt to justify this by keeping species alive that should be extinct alive in captivity for the enjoyment of humans but that's about all.
Do yourself a favour and google "zsl research"
One of the many pages that comes up is
http://www.zsl.org/science/research-projects/
Have a read. Educate yourself and realise that while i do agree that some zoos out there are money making, poorly maintained and not with the animals in mind, there are some that fo more good than you could imagin.
As for letting species go extinct owing to failing habitats - that would be incredibly stupid and detrimental to our lives.
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