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I find it a completley bizzare notion that cuctomers pay for a service, then pay the employees additionally.
Do you put something in for the restaurant gas and electric too?
Surely you pay the restaurant and the restaurant pays its staff. I'm quite happy to pay a few quid more for a meal knowing the staff are given a decent level of employment.
Do you put something in for the restaurant gas and electric too?
Surely you pay the restaurant and the restaurant pays its staff. I'm quite happy to pay a few quid more for a meal knowing the staff are given a decent level of employment.
Tipping is an insane cultural act but I still do it if I feel that the service merits it.
I tip my hairdresser and give her a big one at that but only because she's the boss and gives me a massive discount i.e. 50%, for being a loyal customer.
I'll tip the maid in a hotel if my room looks great every day I stay (surprisingly some do the bare minimum).
I'll contribute a decent whack for the cleaner when the whip round comes for Xmas (maybe not strictly a tip tho).
I tip my hairdresser and give her a big one at that but only because she's the boss and gives me a massive discount i.e. 50%, for being a loyal customer.
I'll tip the maid in a hotel if my room looks great every day I stay (surprisingly some do the bare minimum).
I'll contribute a decent whack for the cleaner when the whip round comes for Xmas (maybe not strictly a tip tho).
sday12 said:
z4chris99 said:
Ive never seen a client come in and tip me for doing a good job, thus i dont tip ever.
they carried my food about 15m and took my order, how f
king hard can it be.
That's why they gob in it when you go back.they carried my food about 15m and took my order, how f
king hard can it be. 
OldJohnnyYen said:
Following on from the other thread about Mr Millions wanting to give his wealth away to some dude in a jeweler shop.
I tip following a meal out but that's about it, I don't even know why I do it. Great service is the minimum I expect and I can't believe I tip them when I get it. If someone goes above and beyond, then they deserve some extra cash. I think from now on im going to think twice before leaving a tip.
If a waitress income is made up of tips, then surely thats illegal? Doesnt everyone have to pay minimum wage? If her tips dont make minimum wage then do the restaurant make up the difference? Is that a case of, if I dont pay, then the owner will?
I just think its all getting out of hand, yeah they earn minimum wage, but so does the woman at the check out at Sainsburys, the fella in the bar and bin men but I dont tip all those?
I reckon its all one big conspiracy made up by waitresses.
Is this not, almost word-for-word, Mr Pink's dialogue in 'Reservoir Dogs'?I tip following a meal out but that's about it, I don't even know why I do it. Great service is the minimum I expect and I can't believe I tip them when I get it. If someone goes above and beyond, then they deserve some extra cash. I think from now on im going to think twice before leaving a tip.
If a waitress income is made up of tips, then surely thats illegal? Doesnt everyone have to pay minimum wage? If her tips dont make minimum wage then do the restaurant make up the difference? Is that a case of, if I dont pay, then the owner will?
I just think its all getting out of hand, yeah they earn minimum wage, but so does the woman at the check out at Sainsburys, the fella in the bar and bin men but I dont tip all those?
I reckon its all one big conspiracy made up by waitresses.
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Edited by monthefish on Tuesday 12th June 17:15
Snowboy said:
In the US there is such an expectation of a 15%+ tip that servers are taxed based in their income being their wage + 15% of all their receipts (not including alcohol).
It varies from state to state, but that’s the general sort of thing.
The IRS assume 8% for tax purposes.It varies from state to state, but that’s the general sort of thing.
Tipped positions have a different minimum wage to non tipped positions and in most states it's around $2.20 per hour. In reality a server never receives any of that as it is used to pay the taxes. 15% is the bare minimum you should tip, I always leave 20, sometimes more if the service is outstanding which it often is. The prices in the restaurants reflect the fact that employment costs are much lower. Also in most states employees, including servers, have no employment protection.
Having said that, serving table and bartending is considered to be a profession here and people who are good at it can earn a decent amount of money and are respected. Not the case in the UK. A vacancy in a top restaurant will see many applicants.
Rick101 said:
I never tip, ever. I always say thank you and express the gratiture deserved.
Tipping encourages employers to pay low wages.
Customers making up the shortfall is not the solution.
You do realise that if they paid the staff more basic wage they would pass that cost on to the customer right?Tipping encourages employers to pay low wages.
Customers making up the shortfall is not the solution.
ETA: I hadn't see this later post:
Rick101 said:
I find it a completley bizzare notion that cuctomers pay for a service, then pay the employees additionally.
Do you put something in for the restaurant gas and electric too?
Surely you pay the restaurant and the restaurant pays its staff. I'm quite happy to pay a few quid more for a meal knowing the staff are given a decent level of employment.
So clearly you do understand that and my question was redundant.. apologies!Do you put something in for the restaurant gas and electric too?
Surely you pay the restaurant and the restaurant pays its staff. I'm quite happy to pay a few quid more for a meal knowing the staff are given a decent level of employment.
Edited by KaraK on Tuesday 12th June 18:09
If I've had a nice meal and the staff looked after me/us during the visit to the restaurant and we had a nice evening as a result then I'll tip 10 - 15%.
Most places these days seem to want you to add the tip onto the bill and pay it via card which just increases the profit of the restaurant and doesn't necessarily mean the staff get anything extra.
Most places these days seem to want you to add the tip onto the bill and pay it via card which just increases the profit of the restaurant and doesn't necessarily mean the staff get anything extra.
qube_TA said:
If I've had a nice meal and the staff looked after me/us during the visit to the restaurant and we had a nice evening as a result then I'll tip 10 - 15%.
Most places these days seem to want you to add the tip onto the bill and pay it via card which just increases the profit of the restaurant and doesn't necessarily mean the staff get anything extra.
Just when eating? Do you do it everytime you get good service?Most places these days seem to want you to add the tip onto the bill and pay it via card which just increases the profit of the restaurant and doesn't necessarily mean the staff get anything extra.
qube_TA said:
Most places these days seem to want you to add the tip onto the bill and pay it via card which just increases the profit of the restaurant and doesn't necessarily mean the staff get anything extra.
Not in the USA. Each server runs their own float. They tally up at the end of the shift. If their tickets (excluding tips) add up to say $2173 that's what the restaurant collects from them, the rest is theirs. Hopefully they get enough cash sales to cover the CC tips, if not the restaurant will pay them out.z4chris99 said:
what defines good service?
I eat out maybe 5 times a week, sometimes more, I'm yet to have service where I would say "wow you really did more than I expected".
friendly? gives a reccomendation? serves you quickly? good food? = all expected surely?
I went for some pub grub, some staff had gone down stick it left one guy running the bar and waiting on, he worked hard to make sure everyone had a good time. £40 bill, £20 tip, well worth it IMO I eat out maybe 5 times a week, sometimes more, I'm yet to have service where I would say "wow you really did more than I expected".
friendly? gives a reccomendation? serves you quickly? good food? = all expected surely?
z4chris99 said:
what defines good service?
I eat out maybe 5 times a week, sometimes more, I'm yet to have service where I would say "wow you really did more than I expected".
friendly? gives a reccomendation? serves you quickly? good food? = all expected surely?
We went to a nice Italian restaurant a couple of years ago. It was pretty quiet at the time, so one of the chefs took our kids over to the pizza area and helped them make little teddy bears and things out of pizza dough, which he then cooked for them to have as bread with their meals. The rest of the staff were great too.I eat out maybe 5 times a week, sometimes more, I'm yet to have service where I would say "wow you really did more than I expected".
friendly? gives a reccomendation? serves you quickly? good food? = all expected surely?
I'd call that better than expected service, and it certainly got a tip to match.
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