Caving, potholing, claustrophobia, etc
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ezi said:
I'd rather s
t the bed...

You b
t the bed...
d. You made me googly for the source of the image ... here's the site in full, from 2001 http://www.angelfire.com/trek/caver/index.html"I named the passage Floyd's Tomb, after Floyd Collins. It seemed to look like the tight spot where Floyd spent his last miserable days on earth".
f
k me.It's quite a long read, especially if you have to keep breaking off to calm the f
k down, but interesting nonetheless. Here's a picture from the opposite end ...Edited because the picture host is being a baby:
Edited by bigandclever on Monday 20th May 18:39
Pixel Pusher said:
Angry Sheep said:
I can't see how anyone can find it fun - spending time underground feeling trapped, with little air and staring at the arse of the person in front of you. I was so glad to be back in the open afterwards.
Try taking the tube to work.You'd get used to it.
'Did you feel that rock move?'
I've wandered about narrow gorges and big caverns - Google Les Gorges de la Fou or Postonja - but there is no way I could contemplate any kind of 'caving': I don't think of myself as claustrophobic, but I cannot imagine getting any kind of pleasure from wriggling through a crawlspace. Ever.
I can well imagine getting stuck, though.
I've wandered about narrow gorges and big caverns - Google Les Gorges de la Fou or Postonja - but there is no way I could contemplate any kind of 'caving': I don't think of myself as claustrophobic, but I cannot imagine getting any kind of pleasure from wriggling through a crawlspace. Ever.
I can well imagine getting stuck, though.
Have only been to 1 tourist cave,in Yorkshire I think,and that was bad enough.Only had to squeeze through 1 part that was narrow,and that just involved sucking my gut in,and 1 bit that I had to get on all 4s for as Im quite tall, but was still pretty scary,till we got to a large cavern.
But on the entrance the big tourist tunnel ran right by the original seam that the discoverer used,it was about 12 inches deep and went on for a long way,just thinking of having to crawl through that with no idea of what was at the end gives me the creeps.
And as for cave divers,they are certifiable!
But on the entrance the big tourist tunnel ran right by the original seam that the discoverer used,it was about 12 inches deep and went on for a long way,just thinking of having to crawl through that with no idea of what was at the end gives me the creeps.
And as for cave divers,they are certifiable!
bigandclever said:
You b
d. You made me googly for the source of the image ... here's the site in full, from 2001 http://www.angelfire.com/trek/caver/index.html
"I named the passage Floyd's Tomb, after Floyd Collins. It seemed to look like the tight spot where Floyd spent his last miserable days on earth".
f
k me.
It's quite a long read, especially if you have to keep breaking off to calm the f
k down, but interesting nonetheless. Here's a picture from the opposite end ...
Edited because the picture host is being a baby:

The wiki article about Floyd is just grim:
d. You made me googly for the source of the image ... here's the site in full, from 2001 http://www.angelfire.com/trek/caver/index.html"I named the passage Floyd's Tomb, after Floyd Collins. It seemed to look like the tight spot where Floyd spent his last miserable days on earth".
f
k me.It's quite a long read, especially if you have to keep breaking off to calm the f
k down, but interesting nonetheless. Here's a picture from the opposite end ...Edited because the picture host is being a baby:
Edited by bigandclever on Monday 20th May 18:39
wiki said:
Collins became trapped in a narrow crawlway 55 feet (17 m) below the surface. The reports about efforts to save Collins became a nationwide newspaper sensation and among the first major news stories to become a major sensation on the new technology of home radio.[citation needed] After four days during which Collins could be brought water and food, a collapse in the cave closed the entrance passageway to everything except voice contact. Collins died of exposure, thirst, and starvation after about fourteen days underground, three days before a dug rescue shaft could reach his position. Collins' body was recovered two months later.
Can't think of a worse way to go 
bigandclever said:
You b
d. You made me googly for the source of the image ... here's the site in full, from 2001 http://www.angelfire.com/trek/caver/index.html
"I named the passage Floyd's Tomb, after Floyd Collins. It seemed to look like the tight spot where Floyd spent his last miserable days on earth".
f
k me.
It's quite a long read, especially if you have to keep breaking off to calm the f
k down, but interesting nonetheless. Here's a picture from the opposite end ...
Edited because the picture host is being a baby:

This before bed was a really bad idea.
d. You made me googly for the source of the image ... here's the site in full, from 2001 http://www.angelfire.com/trek/caver/index.html"I named the passage Floyd's Tomb, after Floyd Collins. It seemed to look like the tight spot where Floyd spent his last miserable days on earth".
f
k me.It's quite a long read, especially if you have to keep breaking off to calm the f
k down, but interesting nonetheless. Here's a picture from the opposite end ...Edited because the picture host is being a baby:
Edited by bigandclever on Monday 20th May 18:39
bigandclever said:
here's the site in full, from 2001 http://www.angelfire.com/trek/caver/index.html
Just read the whole site, and while it is a very good read, it's just a ghost story.ADM06 said:
Got to admit that last page proper gave me chills!
yeah its a good yarn, It's quite long for a short story but I still ended up sitting and reading it through in one sitting, and like you said, its quite chilling in places.for about 80% of it I was pretty convinced it was real, but towards the end it just started to overstep the line into the unbelievable.
I still highly recommend it as a way to kill an hour or so
[quote]Collins became trapped in a narrow crawlway 55 feet (17 m) below the surface. The reports about efforts to save Collins became a nationwide newspaper sensation and among the first major news stories to become a major sensation on the new technology of home radio.[citation needed] After four days during which Collins could be brought water and food, a collapse in the cave closed the entrance passageway to everything except voice contact. Collins died of exposure, thirst, and starvation after about fourteen days underground, three days before a dug rescue shaft could reach his position. Collins' body was recovered two months later.
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Reminds me of Toni Kurz who died on the Eiger. An equally awful and slow way to go, but this time hanging off a rope halfway up a mountain where nobody could get him.
I'm happy never doing either of these things!
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Reminds me of Toni Kurz who died on the Eiger. An equally awful and slow way to go, but this time hanging off a rope halfway up a mountain where nobody could get him.
I'm happy never doing either of these things!
Just after I started a new job a few years ago they had a team building potholing event (one of the team was an experienced potholer). Really didn't fancy doing it but as I'd just started felt like I had to (it was on the afternoon of the FA Cup Final too which my team was in! Grrr).
So I feel qualified to give these handy preparation tips for anyone planning on doing it:
Fill a bath with 3 inches of very cold water.
Get in fully clothed.
Every minute bang your head hard with a tea tray.
Do this for 3 hours.
That should sort it.
I kept thinking well at least we're making our way to the huge atrium where there will be boats full of musicians serenading us ( I went to the Caves of Drach on holiday in Majorca when I was a kid). Nope, we just crawled around in mostly 3 foot high corridors and came out again. The only highlight was when a plump girl fell 6 foot down a slimy rock face knocking the team leader with her into a 4 foot deep pool.
It was about as much fun as no fun and I won't be doing it again.
Oh and a schoolboy was killed on an outward bound course in nearby caves not long ago too. I checked when my daughter went on the same course to make sure she didn't do this but it seems it is no longer included. Sensible.
So I feel qualified to give these handy preparation tips for anyone planning on doing it:
Fill a bath with 3 inches of very cold water.
Get in fully clothed.
Every minute bang your head hard with a tea tray.
Do this for 3 hours.
That should sort it.
I kept thinking well at least we're making our way to the huge atrium where there will be boats full of musicians serenading us ( I went to the Caves of Drach on holiday in Majorca when I was a kid). Nope, we just crawled around in mostly 3 foot high corridors and came out again. The only highlight was when a plump girl fell 6 foot down a slimy rock face knocking the team leader with her into a 4 foot deep pool.
It was about as much fun as no fun and I won't be doing it again.
Oh and a schoolboy was killed on an outward bound course in nearby caves not long ago too. I checked when my daughter went on the same course to make sure she didn't do this but it seems it is no longer included. Sensible.
BlackVanDyke said:
No no no no no no nononononoNO. I used to love climbing/scrambling but anything with a real possibility of getting physically stuck? No f
king way. PS the Wiki surfing caused by this thread lead me to the case of baby Jessica McClure. :shudder:
From memory, a Canadian or American baby who fell down a well and was stuck there for 3 days. Or something similar.
king way. PS the Wiki surfing caused by this thread lead me to the case of baby Jessica McClure. :shudder:deadtom said:
ADM06 said:
Got to admit that last page proper gave me chills!
yeah its a good yarn, It's quite long for a short story but I still ended up sitting and reading it through in one sitting, and like you said, its quite chilling in places.for about 80% of it I was pretty convinced it was real, but towards the end it just started to overstep the line into the unbelievable.
I still highly recommend it as a way to kill an hour or so
Climbing is dangerous. But an RAF helicopter might be able to carry you to hospital.
Swimming is in open water is dangerous. But it's possible to have a boat follow you across the channel to France.
But Potholing is a combination of Climbing and Swimming 1 mile below ground where there is no way a stretcher can carry you to safety.
Swimming is in open water is dangerous. But it's possible to have a boat follow you across the channel to France.
But Potholing is a combination of Climbing and Swimming 1 mile below ground where there is no way a stretcher can carry you to safety.
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