Emmaway20
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Potatoes

3,606 posts

196 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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She could have killed someone and then boasted about it on Twitter!

But agree, this should be left to the authorities...

Type R Tom

4,285 posts

175 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Silver said:
I'm not normally a PP visitor so forgive me. I agree with Gizmo. She's stupid and needs some education on driving but she doesn't deserve to lose her job or be killed for it.

I hugely dislike this habit which has developed of people tracking down someone who has done something they don't like via FB, Linked-In etc and then contacting their employer/family/friends. It's stalkerish, weird and just wrong.
I would normally agree with you but in this case I think her employer needs to be aware, if we take the case as reported (though it might not be all true) she left someone for dead at the side of the road. Would you like someone like that working with you? This is made worse by her working in an industry of trust. It's now a police matter personally I hope they through the book at her.

Maybe this will teach other Twitter users to be more careful but I doubt it.

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

235 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Type R Tom said:
Silver said:
I'm not normally a PP visitor so forgive me. I agree with Gizmo. She's stupid and needs some education on driving but she doesn't deserve to lose her job or be killed for it.

I hugely dislike this habit which has developed of people tracking down someone who has done something they don't like via FB, Linked-In etc and then contacting their employer/family/friends. It's stalkerish, weird and just wrong.
I would normally agree with you but in this case I think her employer needs to be aware, if we take the case as reported (though it might not be all true) she left someone for dead at the side of the road. Would you like someone like that working with you? This is made worse by her working in an industry of trust. It's now a police matter personally I hope they through the book at her.

Maybe this will teach other Twitter users to be more careful but I doubt it.
Her employer is aware: they joined up and posted a comment on the road.cc article.

yellowjack

18,247 posts

192 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Emmaway20 said:
this is the reason for my lateness.Always stuck behind some clueless crazy fool! #smartcar
So not only has she knocked a cyclist off his bike, then justified that by claiming "he doesn't even pay road tax", but she's one of those typically moronic young drivers who sees no problem with taking pictures and tweeting while driving. As already pointed out, if she spent less time fking about with her phone, and more time driving, she'd have been able to overtake the Smart anyway. Or was it travelling at a reasonable lick already? And therefore she was only really late because she didn't leave the house early enough, due to being too busy slathering on make-up with a trowel and plucking her eyebrows into a permanently shocked expression.

The saddest part of all this is that none of it surprises me. No sooner have these imbeciles passed their test, than they are spouting forth about their 'right to the road' with no thought for their responsibility to be safe and courteous. Hopefully she'll be a 'new driver' so that her license can be taken away swiftly, and she'll need to retake her test. Hopefully.

Maybe Karma is waiting in the wings, and the next time she decides to tear around rural Norfolk she'll get a side of venison through the windscreen. That'll put the sts up her, and then when she's calmed down, maybe she can tweet a whinge about Deer not paying road tax, and how she "had right of way".

To top it all off, the guy she (is reported to have) hit was on a sportive. Which would suggest that there must have been quite a few other cyclists out and about, along with a fair few event warning signs? And while I'm about it, how the flying fk does she KNOW that a cyclist doesn't pay road tax? Many cyclists also own/run a car, including almost all of us on PH.

Stupid, stupid, stupid tart. rage

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

245 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Normally, I am tolerant and forgiving. I will even speak to Tottenham supporters.

But, as a bike rider, my instinct is to show her no mercy whatsoever. Just make an example of her, end of.............

Pour encourager les autres.

Type R Tom

4,285 posts

175 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Gizmoish said:
Type R Tom said:
Silver said:
I'm not normally a PP visitor so forgive me. I agree with Gizmo. She's stupid and needs some education on driving but she doesn't deserve to lose her job or be killed for it.

I hugely dislike this habit which has developed of people tracking down someone who has done something they don't like via FB, Linked-In etc and then contacting their employer/family/friends. It's stalkerish, weird and just wrong.
I would normally agree with you but in this case I think her employer needs to be aware, if we take the case as reported (though it might not be all true) she left someone for dead at the side of the road. Would you like someone like that working with you? This is made worse by her working in an industry of trust. It's now a police matter personally I hope they through the book at her.

Maybe this will teach other Twitter users to be more careful but I doubt it.
Her employer is aware: they joined up and posted a comment on the road.cc article.
I know mate, that's why I said it, hence I "would normally agree with you", i.e. I don't think people should be tracked down over the internet but in this case there is an exception.

okgo

41,787 posts

224 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Silver said:
I'm not normally a PP visitor so forgive me. I agree with Gizmo. She's stupid and needs some education on driving but she doesn't deserve to lose her job or be killed for it.

I hugely dislike this habit which has developed of people tracking down someone who has done something they don't like via FB, Linked-In etc and then contacting their employer/family/friends. It's stalkerish, weird and just wrong.
If it wasn't for what happened on the internet, then she would have got away with a hit and run which is nearly as bad a thing you can do in a motorcar.

And 'something they don't like' yes you are very correct, I DO NOT LIKE that some jumped up little bint has hit someone, not stopped, THEN fking tweeted about it. Open your eyes, she has done something very serious.

If you are going to post something like that on social media, then you have to live with what will come off the back of it. People are all to brave and silly behind a keyboard, but even a luddite like me can find out a lot of information about someone very quickly via google, so lord knows how easy it must be for police and what not to find out exactly what these idiots have been up to.

superkartracer

8,959 posts

248 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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From another forum -

It's interesting how this story has taken off. I ride in Norfolk and a couple of weeks ago I got assaulted on my bike by a bin man in his truck who was pi55ed at the fact I couldn't back my bike up quick enough to let another lorry through who was on my side of the road. Said bin man ran up and pushed me forwards over the handlebars then dragged me across the road and proceeded to push me around and grab me by my face and threatened 'to beat me to a pulp'!
My point is I got witnesses, a picture of him and his truck and yet three weeks later I'm still waiting for the police to come and take a statement. Perhaps I should have started a Twitter campaign or something instead of letting the law run it's course? It's amazing how the media and in particular the social media can change how things seem to be handled.

okgo

41,787 posts

224 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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okgo

41,787 posts

224 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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superkartracer said:
From another forum -

It's interesting how this story has taken off. I ride in Norfolk and a couple of weeks ago I got assaulted on my bike by a bin man in his truck who was pi55ed at the fact I couldn't back my bike up quick enough to let another lorry through who was on my side of the road. Said bin man ran up and pushed me forwards over the handlebars then dragged me across the road and proceeded to push me around and grab me by my face and threatened 'to beat me to a pulp'!
My point is I got witnesses, a picture of him and his truck and yet three weeks later I'm still waiting for the police to come and take a statement. Perhaps I should have started a Twitter campaign or something instead of letting the law run it's course? It's amazing how the media and in particular the social media can change how things seem to be handled.
The same way if I have an issue with carphone warehouse (which I did) I get nowhere through their phone system of endless drones.

The moment I tweet about it copying them in, publicly shaming them things start happening pretty quickly. Twitter is great for things like that/this.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

276 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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There's a few things that this episode has reminded us;

1) never write anything that you would not want to appear on the front page of a newspaper (this includes on PH).

2) if a crime is committed, ensure a berk tweeted about it, as that's how they will come to justice

3) there are some really horrible people on our roads frown

4) I haven't got a number 4, I just thought I needed one.

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

245 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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okgo said:
Attention seeker with the IQ of a sofa.

Edited by Saddle bum on Wednesday 22 May 10:42

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

276 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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okgo said:
The same way if I have an issue with carphone warehouse (which I did) I get nowhere through their phone system of endless drones.

The moment I tweet about it copying them in, publicly shaming them things start happening pretty quickly. Twitter is great for things like that/this.
You're absolutely right yes On twitter or facebook, a simple comment on their wall will have "Simon, the customer service relationship manager" instantly on the case. A shame, but if you have a genuine complaint getting nowhere it seems the only way to get them to do anyting.

anonymous-user

80 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Saddle bum said:
okgo said:
Attention seeker with the IQ of a sofa.
Trainee teacher and looks like her Uni are now on the case .

https://twitter.com/uniofglos

So you tweet something stupid and suddenly your the media/employer/school/uni/the police all know about it within hours. Harsh but if you post things like that publicly.

Makes you wonder why people post dodgy stuff on here with their real names and employer/business on their profile.

TwistingMyMelon

6,490 posts

231 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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TonyHetherington said:
There's a few things that this episode has reminded us;

1) never write anything that you would not want to appear on the front page of a newspaper (this includes on PH).

2) if a crime is committed, ensure a berk tweeted about it, as that's how they will come to justice

3) there are some really horrible people on our roads frown

4) I haven't got a number 4, I just thought I needed one.
lol too true

Frik

13,667 posts

269 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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yellowjack said:
So not only has she knocked a cyclist off his bike, then justified that by claiming "he doesn't even pay road tax", but she's one of those typically moronic young drivers who sees no problem with taking pictures and tweeting while driving. As already pointed out, if she spent less time fking about with her phone, and more time driving, she'd have been able to overtake the Smart anyway. Or was it travelling at a reasonable lick already? And therefore she was only really late because she didn't leave the house early enough, due to being too busy slathering on make-up with a trowel and plucking her eyebrows into a permanently shocked expression.

The saddest part of all this is that none of it surprises me. No sooner have these imbeciles passed their test, than they are spouting forth about their 'right to the road' with no thought for their responsibility to be safe and courteous. Hopefully she'll be a 'new driver' so that her license can be taken away swiftly, and she'll need to retake her test. Hopefully.

Maybe Karma is waiting in the wings, and the next time she decides to tear around rural Norfolk she'll get a side of venison through the windscreen. That'll put the sts up her, and then when she's calmed down, maybe she can tweet a whinge about Deer not paying road tax, and how she "had right of way".

To top it all off, the guy she (is reported to have) hit was on a sportive. Which would suggest that there must have been quite a few other cyclists out and about, along with a fair few event warning signs? And while I'm about it, how the flying fk does she KNOW that a cyclist doesn't pay road tax? Many cyclists also own/run a car, including almost all of us on PH.

Stupid, stupid, stupid tart. rage
It's splitting hairs, but she doesn't appear to have actually knocked him off. The cyclist's description as it being a "blind bend" is also telling. Regardless though, it could easily have been a lot worse, she was clearly driving like an idiot and anyway, a car driver should always give more respect to a cyclist as the more vulnerable road user.

Whilst younger, inexperienced drivers tend to overestimate their abilities, I have to say that using a phone is hardly the preserve of the young or indeed the inexperienced, sadly.

Electric Beaver

730 posts

218 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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el stovey said:
Makes you wonder why people post dodgy stuff on here with their real names and employer/business on their profile.
IMHO Its down to a complete lack of consequences in their lives thus far. They can get away with anything they like including breaking the law and get off pretty much scott free, perhaps a light slap on the wrist. This starts with their parents who make excuses for any bad behaviour, dont set boundaries and let them make bad decisions. This continues in school with teachers unable to instill any discipline and fearful of the peado slurs. Police are completely toothless, everyone knows this and are free to take the piss with no fear of serious consequences. They wont for a moment have considered that people not on the same wavelength who disagree with their views would read the tweets and forward them to relevant authorities.

What is the likely punishement for this cretin? I bet its a caution if that. That will teach em eh?!

The silly girls we are discussing need a huge dose of reality to shake them from their zombie / sheep like state, to make them realise that the world does not revolve around them. How we do that I dont know, but taking their car / licence away and replacing it with an ancient shopper bike would be a good start.

Kell

1,708 posts

234 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an easy answer to this one.

Some people are just dicks and nothing you can say will make then become less of one.

My last 'incident' involved a car driving on the wrong side of the road directly at me. I can only assume he was trying to queue jump the traffic that was queued for the lights. But they were on red and he would have had nowhere to go even if I wasn't already on the road.

I stopped (obviously) and almost instantly two 'yoofs, innit' jumped out the car and started having a go at me. To which I stated that they were in the wrong, wrong side of road etc. And they could not have given less of a f*ck. As far as they were concerned, I'd stopped them from doing something they wanted to do and therefore, I was the idiot.

I stayed in front of their car for long enough for them to have been later than they would have been if they'd just stayed in the queue but decided to move when they started revving the engine and shouting that they'd make sure I went under the wheels.

Lots of my friends also cycle in London, and can tell similar tales. I can understand motorists being pissed off when cyclists jump lights, ride on the pavements etc, but it seems some just have a hatred for all cyclists regardless of whether or not they've done anything wrong.

WRT to the original story, I hope she gets punished to the full extent of the law. If the story from the cyclist is to be believed, he was knocked off the road and through a hedge. She, therefore, would have no way of knowing if he was OK, injured or dead.

Unfortunately, I bet she just gets a slap on the wrist.


Sushi

858 posts

226 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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I've only recently ventured into this quiet corner of PH, as a person just about to start road cycling (triathlon coming up never cycled road bike before) this sort st terrifies me and if I'm honest puts me off.
I've got 4 kids and a wife at home who depend on me, and the thought that some selfish bint like this is prepared to drive like this, and then not only brag about it, but to do it publicly, makes you lose faith in people.

anonymous-user

80 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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hey look, we get a mention! the last comment will have the GG regulars froathing at the bit though, a nice comparison to guardian readers, priceless! Clearly road.cc readers arent aware that this is the cyclists corner of ph though...

http://road.cc/content/news/84284-nofolk-bloodycyc...

wavey

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 22 May 12:17