Life saver, and people who don't
Life saver, and people who don't
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M4cruiser

4,984 posts

176 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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jackh707 said:
John D. said:
I do it walking.
Thank god I'm not alone. I must be the consequence of riding everyday.

Walk down the street, right turn coming up, right shoulder check.
Shopping at the supermarket, turning the trolley into an isle, shoulder check.

I must look paranoid, I realise that I've done it each time feel stupid and try not to do it again. biggrin
Me too. Love this thread! Until yesterday I thought I was the only one doing this in Tescos!


M4cruiser

4,984 posts

176 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Sten J said:
Also do it when walking. On my walk to work I'm always astonished at the amount of people who walk across the road at junctions without a quick 'life saver' to see if a vehicle is approaching.
I have to confess I saw a scared school friend a few years back when he stepped out (no blind spot check) then a cyclist just behind him screeched to a stop. If anyone saw this in Rushmead Drive ... I saw it too. Nick - do you do your blind spots now?!



pobox205

209 posts

158 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Anybody find blind spots in 4 door cars particularly hard to check? The B post is right alongside.
For this reason I'll never place myself in somebody else's blind spot.

What really concerns me is that although I can check the tiny gap I can see over the should is that things could change up front and in that small space of time a disaster could happen.

john2443

6,526 posts

237 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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I always do it - car driver not biker - I was taught to do it in 1974 when we didn't have door mirrors and have always done it.



scarble

5,277 posts

183 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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pobox205 said:
What really concerns me is that although I can check the tiny gap I can see over the should is that things could change up front and in that small space of time a disaster could happen.
Try leaving a bigger gap?

pobox205

209 posts

158 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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It's not the gap I leave, it's the gap others leave when they fill it.

Big gaps aren't a luxury you always have on busy roads.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

213 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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People who don't are dangerous.

I've done this since cycling proficiency training as a little kid.......

pobox205

209 posts

158 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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I think doing it on a pushbike is a little OTT. I always know when something is there.
I know without looking whether something is there or not, and even how big the vehicle is. I do give it a quick look to judge their exact distance, road position and speed though if I'm pulling out round a parked car.

lightthefuse

426 posts

198 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Yes, and another from the two-wheeled school here.

Perfect example of why, even if you're in something 55ft long - motorway the other day, have a Lexus RX thingy in lane 1, myself overtaking in lane 2 whilst an elephant race is going on up ahead in both lanes (2-lane motorway). See faster traffic approaching in lane 2 behind me, think it appropriate to slot in behind HGV in lane 1 (plenty of space), check mirror, check blind-spot - Pricksus has begun an undertake in lane 1, wasn't anywhere near me on the mirror check. Adjust speed to overtake Pricksus once and for all then slot into L1, letting faster BMW and Passat through in L2. Pull subsequently out when L2 is clear to overtake HGV.

You'd be a fool not to...

lexusboy

1,101 posts

169 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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I always do on the motorway but generally not anywhere else really

m3jappa

6,907 posts

244 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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I don't actually look over my shoulder but I lean forward to get a fuller view in the mirror. I just don't feel right actually physically looking backwards, so it's one eye in the mirror one in front. Always worked well enough for me.

Driving vans since 17 I drive in my mirrors as they say.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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pobox205 said:
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I think doing it on a pushbike is a little OTT. I always know when something is there.
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Always.. !! ??

You only have to be wrong once in a lifetime and that could be the only time you'll ever get ... to be wrong!

Trucker in his 55 foot 44+ tonner will be cushioned against reality with that lot surrounding the driver, and many of those I've observed on our HGV infested roads often get it wrong BIG TIME.

It only takes a glance, a lifesaving glance as after checking all those mirrors, the one checked first now shows an unseen different image to that when first checked .... all that can happen in less than a second... that's all it takes.

Not to do so could be a very final lesson. Maybe not for you, but, for some other poor sod in your life.

8potdave

2,724 posts

239 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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I do it all the time, as with most others it comes from doing my bike training / test.

I am a car salesman and when I'm out on test drive with people it's astonishing how many people say "Oh, you check over your shoulder? I never bother with that". Good news eh! I also got a funny look from a woman when turning left for checking her side as she thought I was looking at her. It would appear not to be a common thing amongst the A to B crowd.

carinaman

24,759 posts

198 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Motorrad said:
People who don't are dangerous.

I've done this since cycling proficiency training as a little kid.......
Flip that is bad, I was told to do it in the school playground before I left school and now I've let it go, dropped it from my driving repertoire.


marsred

1,042 posts

251 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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I don't just do the shoulder check, I also assume everyone else doesn't, which causes me to avoid just as much trouble.

BusaMK

389 posts

175 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Another good technique to have is to always accelerate into clean air when changing lanes - as it's difficult to drag your helmet back to straight ahead if you glance over the shoulder at iffy higher speeds.



Motorrad

6,811 posts

213 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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carinaman said:
Flip that is bad, I was told to do it in the school playground before I left school and now I've let it go, dropped it from my driving repertoire.
Me too only I didn't drop it smile

carinaman

24,759 posts

198 months

Thursday 23rd May 2013
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Motorrad said:
carinaman said:
Flip that is bad, I was told to do it in the school playground before I left school and now I've let it go, dropped it from my driving repertoire.
Me too only I didn't drop it smile
My head has been elsewhere and that accounts for three near misses since the autumn. It's a sign I need to get into driving mode once the car door shuts and get that nagging distraction put to bed for good.

s p a c e m a n

11,810 posts

174 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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lightthefuse said:
Yes, and another from the two-wheeled school here.

Perfect example of why, even if you're in something 55ft long

You'd be a fool not to...
You looked in the mirror and the car that was there was nowhere to be seen, theres little need to turn your head other than to confirm it is where you know it is. If it wasnt in the blind spot then you need to have more sleep biggrin

B'stard Child

30,897 posts

272 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Always on car and bikes (even on pedal cycles although as a PH'r said your ears provide better information)

I miss proper wing mirrors though bloody modern mirrors that are door mounted as rubbish substitutes (even with blind spot edges)