what would happen if I quickly put full lock on at motorway
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In anything remotely sporting it'll just swing the back round and slide a bit and end up facing the on coming traffic. On trackdays you often have 90 degree sharp turns that surprisingly for the average motorist can often be taken at 70mph, bit to fast just results in a spin end up on the inside of the turn facing the wrong way.
DrDeAtH said:
In a manual however.... The clutch would grenade itself when you let it back out in first/reverse. How far the shrapnel will travel is anyones guess....
No no, before you even pull the clutch up it makes a massive crunchy noise and won't let you pull the gear stick fully in to the reverse position. You could probably make the gearbox explode if you pulled the gear lever really hard.I know this because reverse on my current car is where 6th gear was on my previous car.

ARobinson said:
If you're violent enough with the steering wheel in the dry, you can flip most cars over.
I am sure you could set up certain cars to do it and even then you might need to seesaw or at least get the rims to hit the tarmac. If it was easy why do they need to use a gas cannon to make a car roll for a film?Toltec said:
ARobinson said:
If you're violent enough with the steering wheel in the dry, you can flip most cars over.
I am sure you could set up certain cars to do it and even then you might need to seesaw or at least get the rims to hit the tarmac. If it was easy why do they need to use a gas cannon to make a car roll for a film?Also, it wouldn't be predictable enough
I saw a programme once where some physicists (of some description) were posed the question of putting a car into reverse at 70mph. They came to the conclusion (using science and stuff) that the energy released would act like a bomb and blow the car in half with a great deal of violence. That said, I once dropped a Corsa into second at 90mph. I should point out that the move was deliberate on my part, since I needed the engine braking to assist the actual brakes in allowing me to avoid rear ending the bloke in front. It worked, and if it damaged the car, I certainly didn't notice.
As to the OP's question, I'm sure it depends upon the car, some may dig in and roll, some may even rip a tyre from the rim. Others would likely slide either understeer or oversteer (the latter would certainly be the case in a Focus). Too many variables really, but an interesting question. Maybe one of the childrens' science programmes (that thing with Richard Hammond, perhaps) will follow it up if you write in?
Simon.
As to the OP's question, I'm sure it depends upon the car, some may dig in and roll, some may even rip a tyre from the rim. Others would likely slide either understeer or oversteer (the latter would certainly be the case in a Focus). Too many variables really, but an interesting question. Maybe one of the childrens' science programmes (that thing with Richard Hammond, perhaps) will follow it up if you write in?
Simon.
SMGB said:
Trust me on this.....
The car would answer the helm as best as it could and roll onto its bump stops and leave rubber from all 4 wheels.If you manage to catch it or it bounces of a barrier or another car the unwinding springs will send you sliding the other way. Usually you only flip a car if you hit a kerb, or in one spectacular case I heard of the edge of a traffic calming bollard.
Dont try this at home, or on the M1.
At full lock there would be a very real risk of the car rolling.The car would answer the helm as best as it could and roll onto its bump stops and leave rubber from all 4 wheels.If you manage to catch it or it bounces of a barrier or another car the unwinding springs will send you sliding the other way. Usually you only flip a car if you hit a kerb, or in one spectacular case I heard of the edge of a traffic calming bollard.
Dont try this at home, or on the M1.
http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shoppers/Rollover/...
And the physics of the roll over is discussed here, its the main reason for electronic stability aids:
http://www.academia.edu/1294738/Road_Vehicle_Rollo...
Cheers
Edited by moreflaps on Friday 24th May 07:29
Depends on the car and the throttle movement too. I'd imagine if you had a wide enough stretch of tarmac (maybe 300 yards wide) and you did this in an Integra Type R with a constant throttle then it would understeer a bit initially and then gain grip eventually and start turning hard. If you backed off the throttle at the same time, I assume you'd provoke a spin.
Was this sparked by a pub debate?
Was this sparked by a pub debate?
Your death would be guaranteed. Along with the deaths of lots of innocent people.
Are you that angry that you want to take unknown people with you when you end it all.
Actually your question reminds me of a momentary thought some 5 years ago, after a particularly bad day at work, where I'd had 3 months of s
te from my bully boy boss.
For a moment I looked at the next motorway bridge and thought "well one option might be to steer left hard. That would teach them"
And then I thought "Nah that would upset my kids and my wife would be quite cross too" so I went home instead.
Are you that angry that you want to take unknown people with you when you end it all.
Actually your question reminds me of a momentary thought some 5 years ago, after a particularly bad day at work, where I'd had 3 months of s
te from my bully boy boss. For a moment I looked at the next motorway bridge and thought "well one option might be to steer left hard. That would teach them"
And then I thought "Nah that would upset my kids and my wife would be quite cross too" so I went home instead.
moreflaps said:
SMGB said:
Trust me on this.....
The car would answer the helm as best as it could and roll onto its bump stops and leave rubber from all 4 wheels.If you manage to catch it or it bounces of a barrier or another car the unwinding springs will send you sliding the other way. Usually you only flip a car if you hit a kerb, or in one spectacular case I heard of the edge of a traffic calming bollard.
Dont try this at home, or on the M1.
At full lock there would be a very real risk of the car rolling.The car would answer the helm as best as it could and roll onto its bump stops and leave rubber from all 4 wheels.If you manage to catch it or it bounces of a barrier or another car the unwinding springs will send you sliding the other way. Usually you only flip a car if you hit a kerb, or in one spectacular case I heard of the edge of a traffic calming bollard.
Dont try this at home, or on the M1.
http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shoppers/Rollover/...
And the physics of the roll over is discussed here, its the main reason for electronic stability aids:
http://www.academia.edu/1294738/Road_Vehicle_Rollo...
Cheers
Edited by moreflaps on Friday 24th May 07:29
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