142 MPH in Scotland... anyone here?
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BandOfBrothers said:
heebeegeetee said:
BandOfBrothers said:
heebeegeetee said:
BandOfBrothers said:
Not forgetting that many of our European cousins are legally allowed to drive at significantly higher speeds than us often on significantly worse quality roads than ours even on busy roads, giving lie to the clear nonsense that exceeding an arbitrary limit in itself is inherently dangerous.
Not sure about that. Only one nation is allowed to travel at significantly higher speeds, and their roads are not worse than ours. It's possible that the speed limit on a road of that type in UK has the same limit as Germany, if not higher. (60mph v 90kph?) Germany has 90 million people, France (80 mph limit on motorways) has 60 odd million. That's 150 million of our near neighbours who are legally allowed to drive significantly faster than us.
In terms of France and Germany, to say their roads are significantly worse than ours is quite the opposite of the reality, I think you really are arguing black is white with that one, I just don't understand that comment at all.
BandOfBrothers said:
heebeegeetee said:
BandOfBrothers said:
heebeegeetee said:
BandOfBrothers said:
Not forgetting that many of our European cousins are legally allowed to drive at significantly higher speeds than us often on significantly worse quality roads than ours even on busy roads, giving lie to the clear nonsense that exceeding an arbitrary limit in itself is inherently dangerous.
Not sure about that. Only one nation is allowed to travel at significantly higher speeds, and their roads are not worse than ours. It's possible that the speed limit on a road of that type in UK has the same limit as Germany, if not higher. (60mph v 90kph?) Germany has 90 million people, France (80 mph limit on motorways) has 60 odd million. That's 150 million of our near neighbours who are legally allowed to drive significantly faster than us.
In terms of France and Germany, to say their roads are significantly worse than ours is quite the opposite of the reality, I think you really are arguing black is white with that one, I just don't understand that comment at all.
BandOfBrothers said:
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ks. I did 125 in an MX-5 on an autobahn that was similar to a knackered A road dual carriageway in the UK.
fks. I did 125 in an MX-5 on an autobahn that was similar to a knackered A road dual carriageway in the UK.k me that must have felt terrifying. Their engines are OK etc but I wouldn't want to be doing 125 in one. 
(I've owned 3 MX5s of various eras before you get defensive of them).
I've just returned from completing the NC500 on my Aprilia. What a rush. Sure, we enjoyed the scenery and near empty roads. There were a few convoys of sports and super cars but I did not see any bad driving but I'm sure a few made good progress out in the open and deserted roads. I might have done this too but I cannot recall it.
Edited by rev-erend on Monday 13th May 09:33
carlo996 said:
BandOfBrothers said:
bks. I did 125 in an MX-5 on an autobahn that was similar to a knackered A road dual carriageway in the UK.
It was probably your car. Roads in France and Germany are infinitely better than the absolute state of ours. But what do I know, I only spend half my time in Europe. ks. I did 125 in an MX-5 on an autobahn that was similar to a knackered A road dual carriageway in the UK.A hairdresser at Charlie Miller, Edinburgh got 9 months in the pokey for doing 166mph a few years back.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/m...
Humza Useless got 'words of advice' when he was caught driving without car insurance in the north of Scotland.
Different strokes for different folks!
I sometimes see transporters of Dutch & German supercars heading north on the A1. Always wondered if they were heading to the NC500 as their owners took a flight in.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/m...
Humza Useless got 'words of advice' when he was caught driving without car insurance in the north of Scotland.
Different strokes for different folks!
I sometimes see transporters of Dutch & German supercars heading north on the A1. Always wondered if they were heading to the NC500 as their owners took a flight in.
Edited by EasternBlocGeek on Monday 13th May 19:19
EasternBlocGeek said:
A hairdresser at Charlie Miller, Edinburgh got 9 months in the pokey for doing 166mph a few years back.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/m...
Humza Useless got 'words of advice' when he was caught driving without car insurance in the north of Scotland.
Different strokes for different folks!
I sometimes see transporters of Dutch & German supercars heading north on the A1. Always wondered if they were heading to the NC500 as their owners took a flight in.
I guess they can dump and run for the border as they might be safe on the other side of a large pond if they get caught going a bit quickly?https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/m...
Humza Useless got 'words of advice' when he was caught driving without car insurance in the north of Scotland.
Different strokes for different folks!
I sometimes see transporters of Dutch & German supercars heading north on the A1. Always wondered if they were heading to the NC500 as their owners took a flight in.
Edited by EasternBlocGeek on Monday 13th May 19:19
Would that work for England as well?
EasternBlocGeek said:
Humza Useless got 'words of advice' when he was caught driving without car insurance in the north of Scotland.
Different strokes for different folks!
No he didn't, he got 6 points and a £300 fine, same as pretty much anyone else caught driving without insurance for the first time. Different strokes for different folks!
"Different strokes for different offences" would be more accurate.
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EasternBlocGeek said:
Humza Useless got 'words of advice' when he was caught driving without car insurance in the north of Scotland.
Different strokes for different folks!
Wrong.Different strokes for different folks!
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/593265/trans...
rev-erend said:
I've just returned from completing the NC500 on my Aprilia. What a rush. Sure, we enjoyed the scenery and near empty roads. There were a few convoys of sports and super cars but I did not see any bad driving but I'm sure a few made good progress out in the open and deserted roads. I might have done this too but I cannot recall it.
Now known as the 'POL Defence' 
Geekman said:
People always say that in these cases and it seems like such a ridiculous comment to me. If you do the comparison:
Requirements to drive at high speed on the road:
Find an empty, straight road.
Put your foot down for a few seconds
Requirements to go on a track day:
Clear a day in your agenda
Pay several hundred pounds for entry
Pay for track insurance
Drive to the track
Arrive early
Sit through a briefing
Rent a helmet
Wait your turn in the pit lane
Hope the circuit is quiet enough so you can get a good run down the straight, watching in your rear view mirror to make sure you're not holding up faster cars
I've driven at high speeds on the road and enjoyed it, I've also done track days and enjoyed them. They are two completely different things though, and doing one does not mean you won't want to do the other.
I hear you but well worth the extra effort and cost for the track day option. I find track days to not to be as bad as you describe too.Requirements to drive at high speed on the road:
Find an empty, straight road.
Put your foot down for a few seconds
Requirements to go on a track day:
Clear a day in your agenda
Pay several hundred pounds for entry
Pay for track insurance
Drive to the track
Arrive early
Sit through a briefing
Rent a helmet
Wait your turn in the pit lane
Hope the circuit is quiet enough so you can get a good run down the straight, watching in your rear view mirror to make sure you're not holding up faster cars
I've driven at high speeds on the road and enjoyed it, I've also done track days and enjoyed them. They are two completely different things though, and doing one does not mean you won't want to do the other.
And of course it doesn't mean you still can't speed on the road and enjoy it. Personally I don't, mostly because of the risk but also because I find a track day far more enjoyable. In fact I mostly comply with the speed limit in no small part thanks to track days. But I leave in SE England in fairness.
BandOfBrothers said:
carlo996 said:
1. French and German roads are way better than the UK.
2. I couldn’t care less about speeding.
3. I wish the Police would concentrate on drug/knife related offences.
That’s all.
b2. I couldn’t care less about speeding.
3. I wish the Police would concentrate on drug/knife related offences.
That’s all.
ks. I did 125 in an MX-5 on an autobahn that was similar to a knackered A road dual carriageway in the UK.Glenn63 said:
BandOfBrothers said:
heebeegeetee said:
BandOfBrothers said:
heebeegeetee said:
BandOfBrothers said:
Not forgetting that many of our European cousins are legally allowed to drive at significantly higher speeds than us often on significantly worse quality roads than ours even on busy roads, giving lie to the clear nonsense that exceeding an arbitrary limit in itself is inherently dangerous.
Not sure about that. Only one nation is allowed to travel at significantly higher speeds, and their roads are not worse than ours. It's possible that the speed limit on a road of that type in UK has the same limit as Germany, if not higher. (60mph v 90kph?) Germany has 90 million people, France (80 mph limit on motorways) has 60 odd million. That's 150 million of our near neighbours who are legally allowed to drive significantly faster than us.
In terms of France and Germany, to say their roads are significantly worse than ours is quite the opposite of the reality, I think you really are arguing black is white with that one, I just don't understand that comment at all.
Dave200 said:
BandOfBrothers said:
carlo996 said:
1. French and German roads are way better than the UK.
2. I couldn’t care less about speeding.
3. I wish the Police would concentrate on drug/knife related offences.
That’s all.
b2. I couldn’t care less about speeding.
3. I wish the Police would concentrate on drug/knife related offences.
That’s all.
ks. I did 125 in an MX-5 on an autobahn that was similar to a knackered A road dual carriageway in the UK.Dave200 said:
Glenn63 said:
But then a short ferry ride away from Scotland and you could do 140mph on A roads everyday on your commute legally.
On motorways you mean? And by which you mean only around 10% of those motorways? And of course only when the weather is good, you mean?Dave200 said:
Glenn63 said:
BandOfBrothers said:
heebeegeetee said:
BandOfBrothers said:
heebeegeetee said:
BandOfBrothers said:
Not forgetting that many of our European cousins are legally allowed to drive at significantly higher speeds than us often on significantly worse quality roads than ours even on busy roads, giving lie to the clear nonsense that exceeding an arbitrary limit in itself is inherently dangerous.
Not sure about that. Only one nation is allowed to travel at significantly higher speeds, and their roads are not worse than ours. It's possible that the speed limit on a road of that type in UK has the same limit as Germany, if not higher. (60mph v 90kph?) Germany has 90 million people, France (80 mph limit on motorways) has 60 odd million. That's 150 million of our near neighbours who are legally allowed to drive significantly faster than us.
In terms of France and Germany, to say their roads are significantly worse than ours is quite the opposite of the reality, I think you really are arguing black is white with that one, I just don't understand that comment at all.
nickfrog said:
Geekman said:
People always say that in these cases and it seems like such a ridiculous comment to me. If you do the comparison:
Requirements to drive at high speed on the road:
Find an empty, straight road.
Put your foot down for a few seconds
Requirements to go on a track day:
Clear a day in your agenda
Pay several hundred pounds for entry
Pay for track insurance
Drive to the track
Arrive early
Sit through a briefing
Rent a helmet
Wait your turn in the pit lane
Hope the circuit is quiet enough so you can get a good run down the straight, watching in your rear view mirror to make sure you're not holding up faster cars
I've driven at high speeds on the road and enjoyed it, I've also done track days and enjoyed them. They are two completely different things though, and doing one does not mean you won't want to do the other.
I hear you but well worth the extra effort and cost for the track day option. I find track days to not to be as bad as you describe too.Requirements to drive at high speed on the road:
Find an empty, straight road.
Put your foot down for a few seconds
Requirements to go on a track day:
Clear a day in your agenda
Pay several hundred pounds for entry
Pay for track insurance
Drive to the track
Arrive early
Sit through a briefing
Rent a helmet
Wait your turn in the pit lane
Hope the circuit is quiet enough so you can get a good run down the straight, watching in your rear view mirror to make sure you're not holding up faster cars
I've driven at high speeds on the road and enjoyed it, I've also done track days and enjoyed them. They are two completely different things though, and doing one does not mean you won't want to do the other.
And of course it doesn't mean you still can't speed on the road and enjoy it. Personally I don't, mostly because of the risk but also because I find a track day far more enjoyable. In fact I mostly comply with the speed limit in no small part thanks to track days. But I leave in SE England in fairness.
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