Fed-Ex admin charge, pay up or do one
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: But that's the point.
If Fedex had emailed or sent a "we have your stuff we'll release it when the fees are paid" card I suspect the OP would have paid up to received the stuff he'd ordered.
The way he's behaved because Fedex gave the benefit of the doubt smacks of knowing he owes it but wanting to chance it that Fedex will let it go.
Because the thread hasn't delivered pages of "yeah you stick it to them" and instead is pages of "pay them what you owe them and stop being daft" it's suddenly changed to be about the principle
I asked about the principle of it in my very first post which I quoted for you. If Fedex had emailed or sent a "we have your stuff we'll release it when the fees are paid" card I suspect the OP would have paid up to received the stuff he'd ordered.
The way he's behaved because Fedex gave the benefit of the doubt smacks of knowing he owes it but wanting to chance it that Fedex will let it go.
Because the thread hasn't delivered pages of "yeah you stick it to them" and instead is pages of "pay them what you owe them and stop being daft" it's suddenly changed to be about the principle
psi310398 said:
The workflow isn’t good practice, though, and asking for trouble.
In many cases, it can be argued that the recipient has agreed to pay such fees and charges, but not all. And the fact that a consignor can simply click a tab that purports to commit a third party to taxes and expenses does not confer a right on FedEx to enforce that commitment on the third party without their consent.
This is the bit. My goods were definitely solicited by me though.In many cases, it can be argued that the recipient has agreed to pay such fees and charges, but not all. And the fact that a consignor can simply click a tab that purports to commit a third party to taxes and expenses does not confer a right on FedEx to enforce that commitment on the third party without their consent.
BertBert said:
I don't think the OP has confirmed either way what agreement he had with that company have we?
I used Buyee as the proxy bidder, there terms and conditions seem say to contact your local customs office directly.https://buyee.jp/help/yahoo/guide/caution
When you say "agreement", i set up the account with proxy, set a bid amount (which won) paid the auction amount and the proxy fees + postage costs to them.
I didnt deal directly with the seller other than them send me the email to say the item had been posted as I sourced the item through buyee.
It will no doubt be in the smallest of the small print somewhere.
MickC said:
Here's a thought. You say you paid FedEx the VAT/Duty, but not the admin charge. Were they billed as separate items where you were asked to pay for both separately? If so, good. If not, what's to stop FedEx taking the admin charge out of the 'VAT' payment and either not pay HMRC for you or only pay VAT-12.50? HMRC will then be chasing you for 12.50 which is alot worse.
I guess I'm with you in principle, legally you never agreed to that charge (but the auction house probably did when they shipped the goods and said you would pay it), so you could not bother. You would need to tell the debt collectors its a contested debt and (in theory) they will go away for a while. Whether anyone (FedEx or debt collectors) would bother going to small claims over the small charge is debateable. Usually their tactics would be to add loads of charges and interest on those charges on first so they'd be after 200 quid, but you'd hopefully will that case. Maybe
Again, if you did that both FedEx and the auction house could choose not to do business with you in future.
The invoice that was posted in the weeks after delivery had it itemised as two separate amounts - the vat due and their disbursement fee, but both on the same invoice. I paid the VAT part online via a bank transfer.I guess I'm with you in principle, legally you never agreed to that charge (but the auction house probably did when they shipped the goods and said you would pay it), so you could not bother. You would need to tell the debt collectors its a contested debt and (in theory) they will go away for a while. Whether anyone (FedEx or debt collectors) would bother going to small claims over the small charge is debateable. Usually their tactics would be to add loads of charges and interest on those charges on first so they'd be after 200 quid, but you'd hopefully will that case. Maybe
Again, if you did that both FedEx and the auction house could choose not to do business with you in future.I just re checked the paperwork.......its actually £12.75!!!!!!!
MickC said:
So how did you pay the invoice? Was there a separate invoice number or whatever for each item that you could pay separately? If the bill was 87.75 and you paid 75 towards that, then they could easily say you still owe them 12.75 vat... I guess if they already paid HMRC then it would be difficult for them to tell HMRC you still owe it.
No just one invoice number but with two charges listed out separaately. The invoice had their bank account details on the top of it. On the transaction reference for the bank transfer I made I added the invoice number. They then sent me another seperate invoice for the £12.75 a couple of weeks later (arrived yesterday) with the threat of immediate payment needed or debt collectors etc.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff