Blanket 20mph limit across Wales from 2023

Blanket 20mph limit across Wales from 2023

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bigothunter

11,443 posts

61 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Evanivitch said:
Han Solo said:
Remind me how were we consulted on expanding the Senedd to ‘better serve’ the people of Wales,
I agree, it was vague in the manifesto and the final report had not been delivered. Whilst I think it's conflicting that many people expect the Senedd to do more they also expect them to do it with a much small government than the vast 620 MP in London.
Each Westminster MP represents 107,000 constituents on average.

Each Senedd MS represents 52,000 people on average. That's in addition to their representatives in Westminster.

Drakeford wants to reduce their workload to 32,000 people.

And you call out Westminster for being inefficient rofl

Evanivitch

20,396 posts

123 months

Wednesday 13th March
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bigothunter said:
Each Westminster MP represents 107,000 constituents on average.

Each Senedd MS represents 52,000 people on average. That's in addition to their representatives in Westminster.

Drakeford wants to reduce their workload to 32,000 people.

And you call out Westminster for being inefficient rofl
And a majority Westminster government is made up of 326 ministers, whilst a majority Senedd has 31. The devolved powers are not proportional to that.

I wasn't aware the Senedd had wasted £Bn on failed and delayed rail, healthcare, energy and defence projects.

[ETA] BTW, I don't remember a referendum on the boundary reforms either? Fortunately, it means Jamie Wallis (?) has jumped before being pushed from their Bridgend seat.

Equally, the Tory 2019 manifesto promised Westminster boundary reform before it had been finalised. Where's our referendum?

Edited by Evanivitch on Wednesday 13th March 19:19


Edited by Evanivitch on Wednesday 13th March 19:20

bigothunter

11,443 posts

61 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Evanivitch said:
And a majority Westminster government is made up of 326 ministers, whilst a majority Senedd has 31. The devolved powers are not proportional to that.

I wasn't aware the Senedd had wasted £Bn on failed and delayed rail, healthcare, energy and defence projects.
UK population is 21 times larger than Wales. Yorkshire is 1.75 times larger. Wales is a minnow.

Senedd is exceptionally good at wasting money as highlighted by numerous examples in this thread.




Stella Tortoise

2,668 posts

144 months

Wednesday 13th March
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This thread has Porthcawl to do with motoring, it’s just politics and tedious.

Evanivitch

20,396 posts

123 months

Wednesday 13th March
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bigothunter said:
UK population is 21 times larger than Wales. Yorkshire is 1.75 times larger. Wales is a minnow.

Senedd is exceptionally good at wasting money as highlighted by numerous examples in this thread.
So? Belittle Wales as much as you like, it's hardly a fresh angle.

Again, please point to the Bn wasted by Wales, even the 100s of millions.

Let's not forget your biggest financial criticism of Wales is the underspend that Westminster clawed back, only to waste again...

bigothunter

11,443 posts

61 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Stella Tortoise said:
This thread has Porthcawl to do with motoring, it’s just politics and tedious.
The 20 mph limit is politically driven.

Regardless, thanks for your contribution.

bigothunter

11,443 posts

61 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Evanivitch said:
Let's not forget your biggest financial criticism of Wales is the underspend that Westminster clawed back...
Even a parish council can understand the consequences of underspending budget. Basic stuff indeed hehe

Evanivitch

20,396 posts

123 months

Wednesday 13th March
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bigothunter said:
Even a parish council can understand the consequences of underspending budget. Basic stuff indeed hehe
And yet they're allowed to underspend budget, but only to the limit Westminster allow...

Stella Tortoise

2,668 posts

144 months

Wednesday 13th March
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bigothunter said:
Stella Tortoise said:
This thread has Porthcawl to do with motoring, it’s just politics and tedious.
The 20 mph limit is politically driven.

Regardless, thanks for your contribution.
What car do you drive?

bigothunter

11,443 posts

61 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Stella Tortoise said:
What car do you drive?
I have access to 8 vehicles which I drive on road and track. Most powerful has 570hp. Why do you ask?

Stella Tortoise

2,668 posts

144 months

Wednesday 13th March
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bigothunter said:
Stella Tortoise said:
What car do you drive?
I have access to 8 vehicles which I drive on road and track. Most powerful has 570hp. Why do you ask?
Sigh.

What car do you drive daily in suburban areas?

bennno

11,766 posts

270 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Evanivitch said:
bennno said:
Wales is doing it worse, e.g. The persecution of holiday homes is damaging welsh competitiveness, you might have missed we introduced
Persecution laugh

bennno said:
Wales is doing it worse, e.g. The persecution of holiday homes is damaging welsh competitiveness, you might have missed we introduced
- 4x CT premiums
- Are introducing registration schemes and visitors taxes.
- Holiday home operators need to go through waste bags and check waste from next month.
- We imposed minimum availability and rental periods way in excess of those in England and Scotland.

None of which applies in England.
England has a 100% Council Tax premium on second homes from April 2025.

If you want to run a business, then run a business. Dumping recyclable material in domestic non-recyclabl3 waste isn't playing by domestic or commercial rules. Do better.

And same again. Are you a business or a home? Pretending you're both isn't viable because you provide neither benefit to the community.


bennno said:
We've reduced business rate relief to high street businesses.
To some high street businesses. Because they're using it as intended which isn't to turn every high street into a parade of takeaways and vape shops.

Edited by Evanivitch on Wednesday 13th March 17:45
You strike me as somebody who could start an argument with a lamppost.

The council tax is 4x versus England just introducing 2x.
The letting windows are 252/182 as opposed to 140/70

To explain it to a simpleton, we’ve made it 2.5x harder to qualify as a business premise in Wales, with circa £6k greater costs if you don’t.

Can you understand why fewer would take the risk and try to invest in encouraging tourism within Wales versus England?





Evanivitch

20,396 posts

123 months

Wednesday 13th March
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bennno said:
You strike me as somebody who could start an argument with a lamppost.
At least the lamppost doesn't use misinformation and self interest, eh?

bennno said:
The council tax is 4x versus England just introducing 2x.
The letting windows are 252/182 as opposed to 140/70

To explain it to a simpleton, we’ve made it 2.5x harder to qualify as a business premise in Wales, with circa £6k greater costs if you don’t.

Can you understand why fewer would take the risk and try to invest in encouraging tourism within Wales versus England?
Yes, I can understand the benefits of fewer family homes in rural communties being taken out of the local community. Great news.

bennno

11,766 posts

270 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Evanivitch said:
Yes, I can understand the benefits of fewer family homes in rural communties being taken out of the local community. Great news.
That’s a blinkered view, all of ours were on the market for 12 months + unsold. We since have an average of 10 guests weekly for >45 weeks of the year, employ staff and several trades, promote other local business and spend any profits locally.

So many cheap properties available, you need to ask yourself why none of the ‘locals’ are buying them.

bigothunter

11,443 posts

61 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Stella Tortoise said:
bigothunter said:
Stella Tortoise said:
What car do you drive?
I have access to 8 vehicles which I drive on road and track. Most powerful has 570hp. Why do you ask?
Sigh.

What car do you drive daily in suburban areas?
You have a certain unique charm rolleyes

I don't drive in suburban areas daily. Usually only twice per week.

Last week it was a Puma ST but this week, it's a Kuga FHEV. Sometimes it's a Navara pick-up.

But to repeat, why do you ask?

bigothunter

11,443 posts

61 months

Wednesday 13th March
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bennno said:
You strike me as somebody who could start an argument with a lamppost.

The council tax is 4x versus England just introducing 2x.
The letting windows are 252/182 as opposed to 140/70

To explain it to a simpleton, we’ve made it 2.5x harder to qualify as a business premise in Wales, with circa £6k greater costs if you don’t.

Can you understand why fewer would take the risk and try to invest in encouraging tourism within Wales versus England?
Although the wheels are turning slowly, I would like to invest a considerable sum and spend my income in Wales. But I'm getting cold feet.

Suspect the Welsh socialists would prefer me to fk off and take my money with me.

Evanivitch

20,396 posts

123 months

Wednesday 13th March
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bennno said:
That’s a blinkered view, all of ours were on the market for 12 months + unsold. We since have an average of 10 guests weekly for >45 weeks of the year, employ staff and several trades, promote other local business and spend any profits locally.

So many cheap properties available, you need to ask yourself why none of the ‘locals’ are buying them.
Because the schools, medical facilities and non-seasonal jobs have been ripped out by decades of holiday home exploitation?

Families don't want the local primary school 5 miles away, elderly don't want the GP 10 miles away, and there aren't any neighbours to speak of... Congratulations, you won.

bennno

11,766 posts

270 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Evanivitch said:
bennno said:
That’s a blinkered view, all of ours were on the market for 12 months + unsold. We since have an average of 10 guests weekly for >45 weeks of the year, employ staff and several trades, promote other local business and spend any profits locally.

So many cheap properties available, you need to ask yourself why none of the ‘locals’ are buying them.
Because the schools, medical facilities and non-seasonal jobs have been ripped out by decades of holiday home exploitation?

Families don't want the local primary school 5 miles away, elderly don't want the GP 10 miles away, and there aren't any neighbours to speak of... Congratulations, you won.
Nah, there’s several schools, busy doctors, and a majority of permanent residents where we have ours. The lack of non seasonal jobs are a by product of our socialist leaders making bad decisions, combined with so many existing on minimum wage having little to spend.

The exodus of 2nd homes / holiday lets will just leave prices reduced that will attract more retirees, which will really place our GP’s under pressure, whilst locals still won’t be able to buy, the rental crisis will continue as the tax and regulatory environment has been set to discourage all long term letting.


G Thang

301 posts

29 months

Thursday 14th March
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bennno said:
Nah, there’s several schools, busy doctors, and a majority of permanent residents where we have ours. The lack of non seasonal jobs are a by product of our socialist leaders making bad decisions, combined with so many existing on minimum wage having little to spend.

The exodus of 2nd homes / holiday lets will just leave prices reduced that will attract more retirees, which will really place our GP’s under pressure, whilst locals still won’t be able to buy, the rental crisis will continue as the tax and regulatory environment has been set to discourage all long term letting.
Just sold a house in Wales I inherited from my grandmother for under 100k. A really excellent 3 storey Victorian town house for very little money only requiring minor works. Doctor, dentist, shops, school all under a mile away. It really wasn't too expensive for a local. Not at all a bad area, very popular with the English.
For sale for 1.5 years, it went to someone from England who was prepared to make the investment and put some work in.

I would have kept it, and rented to a local. However, I have other business interests and projects so not being able to do the work for a couple of years the double council tax kicked in so it had to go as a holiday home.

camel_landy

4,943 posts

184 months

Thursday 14th March
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G Thang said:
bennno said:
Nah, there’s several schools, busy doctors, and a majority of permanent residents where we have ours. The lack of non seasonal jobs are a by product of our socialist leaders making bad decisions, combined with so many existing on minimum wage having little to spend.

The exodus of 2nd homes / holiday lets will just leave prices reduced that will attract more retirees, which will really place our GP’s under pressure, whilst locals still won’t be able to buy, the rental crisis will continue as the tax and regulatory environment has been set to discourage all long term letting.
Just sold a house in Wales I inherited from my grandmother for under 100k. A really excellent 3 storey Victorian town house for very little money only requiring minor works. Doctor, dentist, shops, school all under a mile away. It really wasn't too expensive for a local. Not at all a bad area, very popular with the English.
For sale for 1.5 years, it went to someone from England who was prepared to make the investment and put some work in.

I would have kept it, and rented to a local. However, I have other business interests and projects so not being able to do the work for a couple of years the double council tax kicked in so it had to go as a holiday home.
I spent years shaping my life, so I could move 'back' to Wales. I love it where I live, great community but the WG is sucking the joy out of everything. I see no future for the country and things will only get worse before they get better.

I also have to think about opportunities for my kids, so I'm in the process of selling up and moving out. while there's still some value in my property. It won't be far, as I still want to be within easy striking distance of my elderly parents.

M