Blanket 20mph limit across Wales from 2023
Discussion
Biggy Stardust said:
camel_landy said:
The Port Talbot one is a little nuanced though as it's actually 2x different sections:
The section through the middle of Port Talbot was reduced to 50mph to cut noise, due to the proximity to the houses - I get that and happy to comply.
Why not use noise barriers, as per countries from Holland to Japan?The section through the middle of Port Talbot was reduced to 50mph to cut noise, due to the proximity to the houses - I get that and happy to comply.
Evanivitch said:
Biggy Stardust said:
camel_landy said:
The Port Talbot one is a little nuanced though as it's actually 2x different sections:
The section through the middle of Port Talbot was reduced to 50mph to cut noise, due to the proximity to the houses - I get that and happy to comply.
Why not use noise barriers, as per countries from Holland to Japan?The section through the middle of Port Talbot was reduced to 50mph to cut noise, due to the proximity to the houses - I get that and happy to comply.
Biggy Stardust said:
camel_landy said:
The Port Talbot one is a little nuanced though as it's actually 2x different sections:
The section through the middle of Port Talbot was reduced to 50mph to cut noise, due to the proximity to the houses - I get that and happy to comply.
Why not use noise barriers, as per countries from Holland to Japan?The section through the middle of Port Talbot was reduced to 50mph to cut noise, due to the proximity to the houses - I get that and happy to comply.
defblade said:
Biggy Stardust said:
camel_landy said:
The Port Talbot one is a little nuanced though as it's actually 2x different sections:
The section through the middle of Port Talbot was reduced to 50mph to cut noise, due to the proximity to the houses - I get that and happy to comply.
Why not use noise barriers, as per countries from Holland to Japan?The section through the middle of Port Talbot was reduced to 50mph to cut noise, due to the proximity to the houses - I get that and happy to comply.
camel_landy said:
Evanivitch said:
Remind me about 14 years of Tory "war on motorists"
The main anti-car areas of the UK:London (ULEZ) - Labour
Oxford (Very anti car) - Labour
Bristol (ULEZ... Anti car...) - Labour (though I believe it's now Greens)
Wales... - Labour
So tell me about the tory "war on motorists"...
...actually, don't bother coz you don't actually engage in the 'conversation'.
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bigothunter said:
Stella Tortoise said:
So this whole thread IS politically motivated then?
I knew it, I even called it out once and was told it wasn’t.
Imposition of 20mph limits on 37% of Wales road network is politically motivated. It's blatantly anti-motorist.I knew it, I even called it out once and was told it wasn’t.
Evanivitch said:
Following Tory laws imposed on local government to improve air quality. Starting in 1995 requiring reporting, 2010 air quality standards and 2017 NOx standards and the Environmental act 2021 which imposed penalties.
And the 2015 Boris policy that created ULEZ...
Labour will only be continuing the good work that the Torys have done. Credit where credit is due.
Ah. A lefty loon. That’s what it’s about! And the 2015 Boris policy that created ULEZ...
Labour will only be continuing the good work that the Torys have done. Credit where credit is due.
Byker28i said:
bigothunter said:
Stella Tortoise said:
So this whole thread IS politically motivated then?
I knew it, I even called it out once and was told it wasn’t.
Imposition of 20mph limits on 37% of Wales road network is politically motivated. It's blatantly anti-motorist.I knew it, I even called it out once and was told it wasn’t.
G Thang said:
I have actually used the bus recently on a few occasions. I haven't found it that bad at all, and I quite enjoy it. And, to be fair, it only takes an hour for a journey that's already 20 minutes by car. Admittedly not including the 3 mile walk to the bus stop, and you can't get to where you actually want to go. But apart from that, it's brilliant.
You can't stop progress 
Local Authorities are open for a another round of comment on the 20 mph implementation.
https://www.gov.wales/comment-20mph-speed-limits-l...
https://www.gov.wales/comment-20mph-speed-limits-l...
Senedd don't like their blanket 20mph speed limit being called that
Members of the Welsh Parliament have been told not to use the word blanket when referring to the country's 20mph speed limit.
Presiding Officer Elin Jones has written to all Senedd politicians warning them not to use the term in the chamber.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c97z7jdz5z7o
Members of the Welsh Parliament have been told not to use the word blanket when referring to the country's 20mph speed limit.
Presiding Officer Elin Jones has written to all Senedd politicians warning them not to use the term in the chamber.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c97z7jdz5z7o
Evanivitch said:
Local Authorities are open for a another round of comment on the 20 mph implementation.
https://www.gov.wales/comment-20mph-speed-limits-l...
yet claims there could be even more 30mph exceptions reduced to 20mphhttps://www.gov.wales/comment-20mph-speed-limits-l...
https://www.highwaysmagazine.co.uk/Wales-review-co...
Signs of desperation - the cracks are showing 
Byker28i said:
Senedd don't like their blanket 20mph speed limit being called that
Members of the Welsh Parliament have been told not to use the word blanket when referring to the country's 20mph speed limit.
Presiding Officer Elin Jones has written to all Senedd politicians warning them not to use the term in the chamber.
Members of the Welsh Parliament have been told not to use the word blanket when referring to the country's 20mph speed limit.
Presiding Officer Elin Jones has written to all Senedd politicians warning them not to use the term in the chamber.
Byker28i said:
yet claims there could be even more 30mph exceptions reduced to 20mph
https://www.highwaysmagazine.co.uk/Wales-review-co...
https://www.highwaysmagazine.co.uk/Wales-review-co...
Byker28i said:
Evanivitch said:
Local Authorities are open for a another round of comment on the 20 mph implementation.
https://www.gov.wales/comment-20mph-speed-limits-l...
yet claims there could be even more 30mph exceptions reduced to 20mphhttps://www.gov.wales/comment-20mph-speed-limits-l...
https://www.highwaysmagazine.co.uk/Wales-review-co...
Evanivitch said:
Byker28i said:
Evanivitch said:
Local Authorities are open for a another round of comment on the 20 mph implementation.
https://www.gov.wales/comment-20mph-speed-limits-l...
yet claims there could be even more 30mph exceptions reduced to 20mphhttps://www.gov.wales/comment-20mph-speed-limits-l...
https://www.highwaysmagazine.co.uk/Wales-review-co...
This whole excersise is just to deflect the blame and attention on to councils and away from where it really should be.
monkfish1 said:
For what purpose? No speed limits will be raised up from 20 back to 30 no matter what anyone says.
This whole excersise is just to deflect the blame and attention on to councils and away from where it really should be.
Ah the old "do nothing and complain when nothing happens".This whole excersise is just to deflect the blame and attention on to councils and away from where it really should be.
Remind me how well attended these anti-20 protests have been? Did they reach a dozen?
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