Lancia Beta Spider. Yes or No? PH decides..

Lancia Beta Spider. Yes or No? PH decides..

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johnfm

Original Poster:

13,668 posts

252 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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Need a daily driver for the next 12 months or so - and sick on modern cars.

Good, clean Lancia Beta Spider available.

I like the look of it - especially for what i left of summer.

It will qualify for historic rallying type 2 as well, I suppose.

So - steer clear or go for it?

Less than £150 to insure.
Less than £150 to service.

Seems a no brainer to me.

My gut says buy it.

jimmyjam

2,328 posts

221 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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Lovely, lovely car. I nearly bought one a few years ago and chickened out....still regret it. As long as you go into it eyes open and expecting to spend money then definitely do it!

B Huey

4,881 posts

201 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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I really like them, and the coupe.

If it's decent then go for it.

Which engine does it have?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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I bought a new one and loved every minute of ownership....

Except the rust...hehe

johnfm

Original Poster:

13,668 posts

252 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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2 litre

Seeing it on Wednesday

Should be int he garage on Wednesday night!

ClaphamGT3

11,352 posts

245 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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I've had mine for 22 years.

A few things to watch out for;

  • Targa panel seals are a weak spot; well worth a bikini cover when parked
  • Fuel vapourisation when hot is a real issue; worth fitting a small electric booster pump
  • Oil pumps wear out quickly; if oil preassure is good at tick-over, then drops when you rev before building again, replace the pump.
  • All the rear suspension is interchangeable with Lancia Thema/Fiat Croma/Saab 9000 which is (used to be) cheaper & easier to get hold of
  • Even with the hood up, they're bl**dy noisy at motorway speed
  • They drink like a fish!
I love mine, but I really wouldnt see it as a daily driver these days

johnfm

Original Poster:

13,668 posts

252 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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Clapham

Thanks for the notes.

I assume oil pump is an engine out job? Or is it an external pump?

Drinks like a fish? A little 120hp 2l engine?

frogspawn

77 posts

162 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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mybrainhurts said:
I bought a new one and loved every minute of ownership....

Except the rust...hehe
Same here - BKM401Y are you still around?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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frogspawn said:
mybrainhurts said:
I bought a new one and loved every minute of ownership....

Except the rust...hehe
Same here - BKM401Y are you still around?
PKY577R...was thinking just the same...

'Eeee, lad, them wuz the days...smile

ClaphamGT3

11,352 posts

245 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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johnfm said:
Clapham

Thanks for the notes.

I assume oil pump is an engine out job? Or is it an external pump?

Drinks like a fish? A little 120hp 2l engine?
You can get it out with the engine in situ but its a dog of a job.

They're greedy little b*stards because you'll want to drive everywhere at full cam and wind up getting about 20-22 mpg

Oh, don't forget to change the cam belt religiously every 20k miles

I've always wanted to upgrade to volumex running gear smile

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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How have cars survived with the chassis rust problem?

How extensive was the restoration process?

ClaphamGT3

11,352 posts

245 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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mybrainhurts said:
How have cars survived with the chassis rust problem?

How extensive was the restoration process?
Mine needed a lot of bodywork but, structurally, has only had two small patches its whole life

vixen1700

23,267 posts

272 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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mybrainhurts said:
- BKM401Y are you still around?

PKY577R...was thinking just the same...
I wouldn't have thought so, DVLA says Tax was due in 1988 for BKM & '86 for PKY.

I'd safely assume they're both no more. frown

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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:sob:

Twincam16

27,646 posts

260 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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mybrainhurts said:
How have cars survived with the chassis rust problem?

How extensive was the restoration process?
The front subframe mounting rust problem only affected the Berlinas. The Spyder still rusts (most notably around the well the hood retracts into, as Zagato created the Spyders by cutting the roofs off coupes and hammering the remaining bodywork down into the gap), but no more than any other '70s Italian car.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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My front wings and bonnet rusted through, but the chassis was all right...

This, despite Ziebart rust treatment when brand new.

The Ziebart franchisee wasn't a happy chappy when the franchise collapsed and he was left to do the warranty work. I think he kept a spray gun full of orange paint, just for me...hehe

johnfm

Original Poster:

13,668 posts

252 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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What are they like to drive?

With 120hp and 1000kg, I assume they are fun.

Thinking of historic rallying it.

frogspawn

77 posts

162 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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vixen1700 said:
I wouldn't have thought so, DVLA says Tax was due in 1988 for BKM & '86 for PKY.

I'd safely assume they're both no more. frown
Shame, one of the nicest driving cars I've owned - and basically free after Op Corporate.....

Alfachick

1,639 posts

199 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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I would steer clear of using one as an every day car all year round.
It will quickly deteriorate in the conditions that we have in the UK in the winter. Also if the hood leaks then you are letting yourself in for a lot of floor pan / sill welding in the future.

I would say go for it as a summer car, but buy something cheep and cheerfull for the winter.

Just my 2p worth smile

ClaphamGT3

11,352 posts

245 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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johnfm said:
What are they like to drive?

With 120hp and 1000kg, I assume they are fun.

Thinking of historic rallying it.
depending on how full-on you're going to be, I dont think that it would be stiff enough; you'd really want a coupe for that