RS2000, not its Best Colour?
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Another one in an unusual colour here:
https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1678835
Like the colour and the wheels, not so keen on the leather interior.
https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1678835
Like the colour and the wheels, not so keen on the leather interior.
generationx said:
Another one in an unusual colour here:
https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1678835
Like the colour and the wheels, not so keen on the leather interior.
Nordic Blue.......cracking colour https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1678835
Like the colour and the wheels, not so keen on the leather interior.
Not keen of the wider wheels though, or the 4-spoke steering wheel, but I don't mind the leather interior. Before they remade the Beta cloth, quite a few cars were retrimmed in leather, as it was the logical choice when you couldn't get the correct fabric. Mind you that looks like a recent retrim, so likely a personal choice to do it in leather.
Ford did at least one RS2 in leather of course, so.....
generationx said:
Another one in an unusual colour here:
https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1678835
Like the colour and the wheels, not so keen on the leather interior.
That's a very nice restoration. https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1678835
Like the colour and the wheels, not so keen on the leather interior.
generationx said:
Another one in an unusual colour here:
https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1678835
Like the colour and the wheels, not so keen on the leather interior.
£46.5k for something that has the wrong interior, has had a colour change and (almost certainly) been an Insurance Write-Off as it was rebuilt after a fire! https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1678835
Like the colour and the wheels, not so keen on the leather interior.
Shezbo said:
generationx said:
Another one in an unusual colour here:
https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1678835
Like the colour and the wheels, not so keen on the leather interior.
£46.5k for something that has the wrong interior, has had a colour change and (almost certainly) been an Insurance Write-Off as it was rebuilt after a fire! https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1678835
Like the colour and the wheels, not so keen on the leather interior.
Really good cars with known and documented history are, what, only 10-15% more than something like this, which begs the question, why would anyone pay this much for something like this when only a little but more gets you something much, much better...?
That one owner, sub-30k miles all original RS2 that Mathewsons sold in the last series, went for just over £50k.....which is an absolute bargain, when you compare it to this at £46.5k...!!
aeropilot said:
And herein lies the problem.
Really good cars with known and documented history are, what, only 10-15% more than something like this, which begs the question, why would anyone pay this much for something like this when only a little but more gets you something much, much better...?
That one owner, sub-30k miles all original RS2 that Mathewsons sold in the last series, went for just over £50k.....which is an absolute bargain, when you compare it to this at £46.5k...!!
Happy to stick my neck out and say that it wouldn't matter much to me and I say that on the basis that many have had paintwork and I don't see a fire as that different to panel damage . I drive the Cars I buy rather than Invest in them and anyone that mucked around with Escorts in period I suppose would feel the same way . I agree that the Mathewsons Car was an absolute bargain .Really good cars with known and documented history are, what, only 10-15% more than something like this, which begs the question, why would anyone pay this much for something like this when only a little but more gets you something much, much better...?
That one owner, sub-30k miles all original RS2 that Mathewsons sold in the last series, went for just over £50k.....which is an absolute bargain, when you compare it to this at £46.5k...!!
reddiesel said:
aeropilot said:
And herein lies the problem.
Really good cars with known and documented history are, what, only 10-15% more than something like this, which begs the question, why would anyone pay this much for something like this when only a little but more gets you something much, much better...?
That one owner, sub-30k miles all original RS2 that Mathewsons sold in the last series, went for just over £50k.....which is an absolute bargain, when you compare it to this at £46.5k...!!
Happy to stick my neck out and say that it wouldn't matter much to me and I say that on the basis that many have had paintwork and I don't see a fire as that different to panel damage . Really good cars with known and documented history are, what, only 10-15% more than something like this, which begs the question, why would anyone pay this much for something like this when only a little but more gets you something much, much better...?
That one owner, sub-30k miles all original RS2 that Mathewsons sold in the last series, went for just over £50k.....which is an absolute bargain, when you compare it to this at £46.5k...!!
Anything other than localised fires are a no go, the heat involved damages them beyond repair and as mentioned the strength of a shell is reduced. You could replace all exterior panels but still have areas of weakness.
Off topic a bit, but my dad was a old school traditional panel beater from the age of 15, retired at 68 a few years back, knew how to lead load and use an English wheel - skills that are sadly being lost. I recall clearly a Porsche 911 in the late 90's that they had in that had fire damage to the engine area, no flame damage beyond the fire wall just smoke damage inside. But, the heat had distorted a lot including the firewall, both legs each side and inner wings/flitch areas. It looked repairable at first, but the only option would have been to replace everything from the front seats back really.
I've got pictures of it somewhere, chap a unit a few doors down was locking the gates and left it idling. Heard a small odd kind of pop, and it just burst into flames!
Off topic a bit, but my dad was a old school traditional panel beater from the age of 15, retired at 68 a few years back, knew how to lead load and use an English wheel - skills that are sadly being lost. I recall clearly a Porsche 911 in the late 90's that they had in that had fire damage to the engine area, no flame damage beyond the fire wall just smoke damage inside. But, the heat had distorted a lot including the firewall, both legs each side and inner wings/flitch areas. It looked repairable at first, but the only option would have been to replace everything from the front seats back really.
I've got pictures of it somewhere, chap a unit a few doors down was locking the gates and left it idling. Heard a small odd kind of pop, and it just burst into flames!
aeropilot said:
I'd be a LOT more nervous of a fire damaged repaired car than anything unless it was very small localised underbonnet fire etc., due to the potential change in strength of the steel from heat.
I take your point and understand the science behind it but suspect you are over egging the pudding somewhat . reddiesel said:
aeropilot said:
I'd be a LOT more nervous of a fire damaged repaired car than anything unless it was very small localised underbonnet fire etc., due to the potential change in strength of the steel from heat.
I take your point and understand the science behind it but suspect you are over egging the pudding somewhat . sortedcossie said:
Anything other than localised fires are a no go, the heat involved damages them beyond repair and as mentioned the strength of a shell is reduced. You could replace all exterior panels but still have areas of weakness.
Off topic a bit, but my dad was a old school traditional panel beater from the age of 15, retired at 68 a few years back, knew how to lead load and use an English wheel - skills that are sadly being lost. I recall clearly a Porsche 911 in the late 90's that they had in that had fire damage to the engine area, no flame damage beyond the fire wall just smoke damage inside. But, the heat had distorted a lot including the firewall, both legs each side and inner wings/flitch areas. It looked repairable at first, but the only option would have been to replace everything from the front seats back really.
I've got pictures of it somewhere, chap a unit a few doors down was locking the gates and left it idling. Heard a small odd kind of pop, and it just burst into flames!
That must have been a scene . I was in my late fifties before I ever bought a Porsche and it was more a desire to "have a go" at one and make some comparisons than any life crisis scenarios . I think the inability to access the engine something which you actually forget about when driving the thing always leaves me when hearing a pop or bang with an empty bowel feeling .Off topic a bit, but my dad was a old school traditional panel beater from the age of 15, retired at 68 a few years back, knew how to lead load and use an English wheel - skills that are sadly being lost. I recall clearly a Porsche 911 in the late 90's that they had in that had fire damage to the engine area, no flame damage beyond the fire wall just smoke damage inside. But, the heat had distorted a lot including the firewall, both legs each side and inner wings/flitch areas. It looked repairable at first, but the only option would have been to replace everything from the front seats back really.
I've got pictures of it somewhere, chap a unit a few doors down was locking the gates and left it idling. Heard a small odd kind of pop, and it just burst into flames!
Legacywr said:
Please stop doing that, it's making my wallet itch, & that's just down the road from me... 
It didn't take long for it to reappear for sale.
A reminder of the Anglia sale...
https://www.angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic-auctio...
A reminder of the Anglia sale...
https://www.angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic-auctio...
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