Anglia Auctions With Another RS
Discussion
Turbobanana said:
Thanks aero but I'm well up to speed on my Escort mark numbers. I believe MST offer a Mk1 as well, if that floats your dinghy.
Anyway, back on topic: what do we think the Sprint (lot # 286) and RS (lot # 600) will make this weekend?
High 20's for the RS, high teens for the DollyAnyway, back on topic: what do we think the Sprint (lot # 286) and RS (lot # 600) will make this weekend?
s m said:
If I could only have one I’d pick the RS2000 having owned a couple of Mk2 RS2000s whereas only drove a friend’s Dolly Sprint - but maybe go for cheaper examples of both cars coming in at under 30k for both so I wouldn’t be afraid to use them and get a bit of Welsh road dirt and seaside air on them.
The Ford was definitely more raw, not as refined but perhaps more fun
Yep, AVO RS2 for me too, without any hesitation. I have owned 3 of them in the past The Ford was definitely more raw, not as refined but perhaps more fun
And just as a bit of useless trivia, the RS2000 in that test article, NHK 247M, after it was sold off the press fleet by Ford a year or so later, was bought by Hot Car magezine and was the subject to one of their 'how to' project car articles, where they fitted fibreglass 'works style' bubble arch extensions to the car (which ruined it of course)
40 years ago, I was able to track the car down, and it was still in Essex, and the owner brought it along to the AVO OC Autotest held in the car park of the old AVO factory in Aveley....this was was taken on 1st April 1984, just over 40 years ago.
RS2000's are a bit (or very) old man/rally jacket nowadays, 70 year old blokes banging on about Roger Clark etc. I remember them as new cars and thought they were pretty good. Now I just think they're a bit naff.
Dolomite Sprints have come into their own of late and whilst I wouldn't cross the road to look at the Escort, the Triumph has more interest value to it. Value wise, their day will come as they find a new younger audience.
Dolomite Sprints have come into their own of late and whilst I wouldn't cross the road to look at the Escort, the Triumph has more interest value to it. Value wise, their day will come as they find a new younger audience.
s m said:
Turbobanana said:
s m said:
I guess the last question very much depends on whether you just want a 70s/80s sports saloon or have hankerings for the car you drove and loved as a youngster.
This is a very valid point.I was lucky enough to work weekends / school holidays for a used car dealer in my teens, and once I'd passed my test was immediately put on the trade insurance. This meant I was able to drive all sorts of things from an early age. As a consequence I don't really have "hankerings for the car I drove and loved as a youngster" because there were so many. I certainly wouldn't drop this sort of money on an Escort, no matter how nice, when there are far more appealing options (to me) available.
The group test reprint was interesting - thanks for posting. Motoring journos always seem to have this image of the buying public as rallying gods, keen to apply a dab of oppo at any given moment. The majority of us have no delusions of grandeur so pictures of an RS in full Roger Clark mode are irrelevant: try that today on a Milton Keynes roundabout and see how far you get. To most buyers back then these were "just cars" and most folk buying them were probably being forced out of an MG BGT / Triumph GT6 / etc due to a growing family. Front wheel drive was coming, and in a few years the market would have the Golf GTI in the mix: probably a better car than any of these and, although way more expensive than they used to be, nowhere near the stratosphere occupied by the RS.
I have to confess to being guilty of the above as a teenager in the 80s though - my friends and I were lucky enough to have plenty of empty deserted open roads to drive on - we were never the town centre café racers
Funnily enough after my first Mk2 RS I bought into all the fwd revolution and got a Mk1 GTI 1800 - great engine - but the rest of it compared to the Escorts/old rwd stuff I had just didn’t light my fire…….. so went back to another RS Mk2. I just found them more fun for the driving I did. Moved on through a fair few Kensington Fords/Opels since then……but have come full circle and still have an old rwd car for fun - luckily bought it before prices jumped up. Friend managed to snag a nice but useable Mk2 RS2000 a few years back for about 12k. Still great fun to get them out and go for a run on quiet Welsh roads on a nice day
Always good to see other people with the same thought enjoying their chosen stuff too - friend brings his 944 sometimes, another his Ascona - vive la difference!
Before I got my MK2 RS2000 I had a Fiat 132 1800ES, so mechanically much the same as the 124 Coupe in the road test, and the drivetrain felt so much more sophisticated with a twin-cam engine, 5 speed box and 4 wheel disc brakes. It's just a shame it was a fair bit heavier than the Escort.
After my RS2000 I had a couple of 2.8i Capris and I'd still have one of those ahead of an RS2000.
Years later I had a MK1 Golf GTi and a MK2 GTi 16V and while they were fun I just prefer RWD, so I currently get my manual RWD fix from a BMW Z4M that cost way less than the guide price for the ACA RS.
After all everyone selling one says they are a future classic.
I-am-the-reverend said:
RS2000's are a bit (or very) old man/rally jacket nowadays, 70 year old blokes banging on about Roger Clark etc. I remember them as new cars and thought they were pretty good. Now I just think they're a bit naff.
Dolomite Sprints have come into their own of late and whilst I wouldn't cross the road to look at the Escort, the Triumph has more interest value to it. Value wise, their day will come as they find a new younger audience.
Yeah, keeping an eye on that Dolly listed. Dolomite Sprints have come into their own of late and whilst I wouldn't cross the road to look at the Escort, the Triumph has more interest value to it. Value wise, their day will come as they find a new younger audience.
Seems in tidy shape despite the sunshine roof. Cant get up there due to being ill this week but I’ll be interested to see how much it goes for. If it goes cheap I’ll be kicking myself.
Values do seem to be edging up for good examples.
hilly10 said:
There is a lot of stuff not making its reserve. None of the Lotuses hit good money Stags were down, the car that surprised me was the TR5 no where near what they were going for a couple of years ago
Maybe the people that lusted after that stuff are getting fewer? Edited by hilly10 on Sunday 7th April 15:41
Who knows
I’d be more after the Dolly Sprint and Escort personally- have no real desire or connection to a Stag/TR5/Lotus - I’m in my late 50s
s m said:
Maybe the people that lusted after that stuff are getting fewer?
Who knows
I’d be more after the Dolly Sprint and Escort personally- have no real desire or connection to a Stag/TR5/Lotus - I’m in my late 50s
I think that the people are indeed getting fewer and I think someone mentioned that previously . Generations and the cars they lust after are I suppose constantly changing . Perhaps even that great love affair we all have for the car is on the decline too . I certainly find it hard to get emotional about an EV as without that soundtrack and smell I might as well be buying a piece of furniture . I won’t decry Lotus because I never owned nor have I driven one . They were my fathers generation with Jim Clark , Colin Chapman and building “specials” in a lockup . Every time I look at one all I think of is Car Mechanics Magazines and relentless searching for bad earthsWho knows
I’d be more after the Dolly Sprint and Escort personally- have no real desire or connection to a Stag/TR5/Lotus - I’m in my late 50s
reddiesel said:
MisterNick said:
£8,700 for the red Dolomite
They are complete bargains for what they are Nick , complete bargains . £9396 apparently was the sale price for the SprintEdited by reddiesel on Saturday 6th April 22:17
That car was built 76 registered on a 79 V and original dvla colour was green - who knows what’s gone on with that one.
There didn’t seem to be many people bidding this weekend some went through miles off estimate.
Some cars did seem to make silly money the convertible BMW’s and rover mg’s notable for questionable high prices .
Things has wound down by the end of Sunday a mk1 Jag 3.4 manual lhd only bid to £7k should be worth double that if decent ( reserve was £9-10k).
Lhd obviously hammers U.K. pricing.
reddiesel said:
MisterNick said:
£8,700 for the red Dolomite
They are complete bargains for what they are Nick , complete bargains . £9396 apparently was the sale price for the SprintEdited by reddiesel on Saturday 6th April 22:17
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