Evening meal allowance - London

Evening meal allowance - London

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TwigtheWonderkid

43,613 posts

151 months

Monday 13th May
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QuartzDad said:
vikingaero said:
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When you submit your expenses, if a manager approves it up to £500, you get the amount the same day. If they fail to approve it within 72 hours and it is below £500, you are automatically paid. biggrin
Sigh. My last employer was like that, my current one has recently moved to Concur for expenses. I got paid today for a chunky claim that was submitted on 8th April.
I do voluntary charity work that involves me incurring expenses, maybe to a max of £400. We use SAP Concur and I get paid about a week after submission. Works very well.

Blown2CV

29,045 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th May
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basherX said:
Don’t people get given corporate credit cards…?

I book my transport and accommodation on Concur- costs charged to my corporate card either when booked (travel) or on check-out (hotel) and receipts emailed to Concur. And then almost everything else gets paid by corporate card during the trip, receipts scanned and uploaded by mobile Cobcur app as I go. Concur’s mostly pretty good at matching receipts to credit card payments.

I guess I’m lucky in that it’s rare for me to cover work expenses with my own cash.
i'd rather get the personal credit card points though

blue_haddock

3,306 posts

68 months

Tuesday 14th May
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
QuartzDad said:
vikingaero said:
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When you submit your expenses, if a manager approves it up to £500, you get the amount the same day. If they fail to approve it within 72 hours and it is below £500, you are automatically paid. biggrin
Sigh. My last employer was like that, my current one has recently moved to Concur for expenses. I got paid today for a chunky claim that was submitted on 8th April.
We use Concur, i submitted a claim on friday, it was approved by my manager on friday afternoon and this morning it was sent for payout by accounts and will be in my bank on Friday.

So i would say its not Concur at fault as mine will be paid in a week.


I do voluntary charity work that involves me incurring expenses, maybe to a max of £400. We use SAP Concur and I get paid about a week after submission. Works very well.

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40,087 posts

197 months

Tuesday 14th May
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QuartzDad said:
vikingaero said:
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When you submit your expenses, if a manager approves it up to £500, you get the amount the same day. If they fail to approve it within 72 hours and it is below £500, you are automatically paid. biggrin
Sigh. My last employer was like that, my current one has recently moved to Concur for expenses. I got paid today for a chunky claim that was submitted on 8th April.
Unless it's been set up in an odd way SAP Concur doesn't create any delay, 99/100 it's the authorising manager who would rather only login once a month into SAP and then "batch approve" the expenses for his direct reports. If you then combine this with the Payments team only doing one expenses payment run per month then, if the stars align, it might be 2 or even 3 months before you get paid.

We process staff expenses weekly so you get paid in as little as 3 days if your line manager approves them.

craigjm

18,030 posts

201 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Concur is actually very good and much more user friendly than the competing modules from Workday and Oracle. As said the delay in payment is not the system. It will be the approvals and batch runs. A well set up system from any of the providers should send reminders to managers after a couple of days and escalate to manager plus one if someone is out of office.

QuartzDad

2,270 posts

123 months

Tuesday 14th May
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I'm sure the platform itself is fine and as you say it's the process and the way we have configured it.

Tried claiming £20 for a weeks public wifi access on client site where their wifi was woeful.

Choosing 'internet expense' as the expense type creates a hard stop on anything over £12, our daily limit.

Splitting the £20 across five days gets it rejected as claim date /= transaction date.

The official advice was put it through as coffees. Yes, I have the email saved.

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40,087 posts

197 months

Tuesday 14th May
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QuartzDad said:
I'm sure the platform itself is fine and as you say it's the process and the way we have configured it.

Tried claiming £20 for a weeks public wifi access on client site where their wifi was woeful.

Choosing 'internet expense' as the expense type creates a hard stop on anything over £12, our daily limit.

Splitting the £20 across five days gets it rejected as claim date /= transaction date.

The official advice was put it through as coffees. Yes, I have the email saved.
The finance person who set that up was an idiot biggrin

You should have a sundry expenses expense type specifically for the times when "Computer says No".


surveyor

17,883 posts

185 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Countdown said:
QuartzDad said:
vikingaero said:
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When you submit your expenses, if a manager approves it up to £500, you get the amount the same day. If they fail to approve it within 72 hours and it is below £500, you are automatically paid. biggrin
Sigh. My last employer was like that, my current one has recently moved to Concur for expenses. I got paid today for a chunky claim that was submitted on 8th April.
Unless it's been set up in an odd way SAP Concur doesn't create any delay, 99/100 it's the authorising manager who would rather only login once a month into SAP and then "batch approve" the expenses for his direct reports. If you then combine this with the Payments team only doing one expenses payment run per month then, if the stars align, it might be 2 or even 3 months before you get paid.

We process staff expenses weekly so you get paid in as little as 3 days if your line manager approves them.
We get 2 working days for approval before it gets kicked up to our line manager. It can get to heady heights very quickly if left.. Hence no-one leaves it!

LunarOne

5,356 posts

138 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Countdown said:
QuartzDad said:
I'm sure the platform itself is fine and as you say it's the process and the way we have configured it.

Tried claiming £20 for a weeks public wifi access on client site where their wifi was woeful.

Choosing 'internet expense' as the expense type creates a hard stop on anything over £12, our daily limit.

Splitting the £20 across five days gets it rejected as claim date /= transaction date.

The official advice was put it through as coffees. Yes, I have the email saved.
The finance person who set that up was an idiot biggrin

You should have a sundry expenses expense type specifically for the times when "Computer says No".
Concur mobile app automatically itemises hotel taxes which is all I have to pay on expenses - the hotel bill gets charged directly to the company. But then there's no way to submit a claim which has itemised hotel daily expense on it, because "account code doesn't have a valid value". So I have to delete that expense and re-submit it as a miscellaneous expense. Drives me nuts.

ThingsBehindTheSun

246 posts

32 months

Tuesday 14th May
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borcy said:
What do you do in the business, why the difference in policy?
I work as an IT consultant visiting clients. I have no idea why the difference in policy, other than sales are seen as gods as they bring in the money and we are seen as an easily replaced resource.

You would not believe the amount of times I have booked my crappy Travelodge through Concur (which should pay automatically) and been asked to pay the bill on my card when I arrive as it has not been paid.

borcy

3,151 posts

57 months

Tuesday 14th May
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ThingsBehindTheSun said:
borcy said:
What do you do in the business, why the difference in policy?
I work as an IT consultant visiting clients. I have no idea why the difference in policy, other than sales are seen as gods as they bring in the money and we are seen as an easily replaced resource.

You would not believe the amount of times I have booked my crappy Travelodge through Concur (which should pay automatically) and been asked to pay the bill on my card when I arrive as it has not been paid.
I think if I travelled a lot with that set up I'd looking elsewhere.

Blown2CV

29,045 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th May
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same. When I've been the sales person's tech guy in the past i.e. tech sales or pre-sales then i've always been part of the sales organisation and had the same sort of benefits.

PorkInsider

5,912 posts

142 months

Wednesday 15th May
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ThingsBehindTheSun said:
borcy said:
What do you do in the business, why the difference in policy?
I work as an IT consultant visiting clients. I have no idea why the difference in policy, other than sales are seen as gods as they bring in the money and we are seen as an easily replaced resource.

You would not believe the amount of times I have booked my crappy Travelodge through Concur (which should pay automatically) and been asked to pay the bill on my card when I arrive as it has not been paid.
I also work in consulting (tech company but I'm not an IT person) and that just would not work for us. But then I've never worked anywhere that sales people would be put on a pedestal compared to anyone else who travels regularly on business.

Understandable that some people may have company cards and some not due to different volumes of travel, but not with regard to actual policy.

(I'm also another who avoids company cards wherever possible and instead gathers the points myself. As well as booking flights and hotels via TopCashback wherever possible and pocketing that loot, too whistle)