Buying From Overseas?
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You will have to pay VAT on the watch from the US but you don't have to pay VAT on watches from another EU country. You can basically buy as many watches as you want from the EU and not pay any VAT(as you will have paid VAT in the EU on it). Given that the Euro is fairly low against sterling it makes sense to buy a watch in the EU.
mikeveal said:
Yup, just had a parcel arrive from USA. VAT is now charged on anything over £15.
You may well have to pay an excise duty on top of that too. HMRC Customs and Excise have a webpage all about this, helpfully it actually tells you sod all.
There's often a handling charge from your shipper too...You may well have to pay an excise duty on top of that too. HMRC Customs and Excise have a webpage all about this, helpfully it actually tells you sod all.
M.
mikeveal said:
Yup, just had a parcel arrive from USA. VAT is now charged on anything over £15.
You may well have to pay an excise duty on top of that too. HMRC Customs and Excise have a webpage all about this, helpfully it actually tells you sod all.
Unless you're an accountant (I'm not). This is more useful...You may well have to pay an excise duty on top of that too. HMRC Customs and Excise have a webpage all about this, helpfully it actually tells you sod all.
http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-...
marcosgt said:
There's often a handling charge from your shipper too...
M.
They love to prepay the taxes for you (including the shipping in the grand total) then charge you an admin fee for doing it.M.
I always avoid UPS, FedEx etc. I always ask if the seller will send with their national postage service, then you'll be collecting it from Doris and Betty in the Post Office who don't know what they're doing and just hand it over.
Sellers in the East are generally more than happy to mark things down on the customs form if they sniff a sale.
sneijder said:
marcosgt said:
There's often a handling charge from your shipper too...
M.
They love to prepay the taxes for you (including the shipping in the grand total) then charge you an admin fee for doing it.M.
I always avoid UPS, FedEx etc. I always ask if the seller will send with their national postage service, then you'll be collecting it from Doris and Betty in the Post Office who don't know what they're doing and just hand it over.
Sellers in the East are generally more than happy to mark things down on the customs form if they sniff a sale.
Not only that, but it was my own bloody fault that I needed the goods. As it's watch related...
I found a nice 1930's Bulova in an antiques shop. The face is unrestored and the 10K GF case is pretty good. Knowing that restored Bulovas from this era fetch £200ish and that good condition unrestored wathes are like hens teeth, I was happy to stump up the £95 asking price.
I knew the watch would probably need a service, but I was dead chuffed to find that it was actually running fast. So, stupidly, I opened the case and prised the movement out, planning to slow it up a little. I say "stupidly", it's not a difficult job, I've done this plenty of times to other watches. But this time, I applied my lever to the wrong place and managed to bend the balance staff (In my defense, you couldn't see it until the movement was out of the case.) So I killed an 80 year old original watch in less than 48 hours of ownership.


The parcel from the states is a replacement Bulova 7AK movement. Watch and movement are now at a trusted watch repairer.
Hi guys, thanks for te responses! I have found a new watch in Italy from a dealer for just over €3000 so I need to confirm that I have this right. The seller says his online price includes VAT so when it arrives to me or gets stopped at customs it will not have any VAT or import duties at all to pay? I don't want to make a mistake that size!
Big Tav said:
Hi guys, thanks for te responses! I have found a new watch in Italy from a dealer for just over €3000 so I need to confirm that I have this right. The seller says his online price includes VAT so when it arrives to me or gets stopped at customs it will not have any VAT or import duties at all to pay? I don't want to make a mistake that size!
A watch from Italy (within EU) will incur no VAT to import. What are you buying, can it not be sourced here on budget?....I also bought a nice watch from an Italian dealer and it was sent via UPS.
The only additional costs incurred was a £27.00 charge from my bank, though it states on the confirmation slip: -
"The foreign bank MAY deduct a handling fee from the amount sent" (Their bold)
No fee was deducted, and the UPS guy appeared in under 24 hours, which impressed me.
With the exchange rate as it is, Europe seems a good place to buy at the moment.
The only additional costs incurred was a £27.00 charge from my bank, though it states on the confirmation slip: -
"The foreign bank MAY deduct a handling fee from the amount sent" (Their bold)
No fee was deducted, and the UPS guy appeared in under 24 hours, which impressed me.

With the exchange rate as it is, Europe seems a good place to buy at the moment.
Big Tav said:
Thanks for the reply, so no VAT. Any other costs from Customs? It's a really nice watch! Would cost a LOT more here to buy it...as long as I don't get hit VAT or import duties etc. Pics will follow if I get it!
You realise Dominic H is a watch dealer?No harm in asking...
Big Tav said:
Hi guys, thanks for te responses! I have found a new watch in Italy from a dealer for just over €3000 so I need to confirm that I have this right. The seller says his online price includes VAT so when it arrives to me or gets stopped at customs it will not have any VAT or import duties at all to pay? I don't want to make a mistake that size!


Make sure you have a witness when you open the parcel. Expensive stuff that goes through the Italian postal service does't always go through the Italian postal service, if you know what I mean.
I got caught on a Tissot. The parcel bag had been cut open and resealed with packing tape, fortunately I was excited enough to open the parcel in the parcel office - so I had a couple of counter staff to act as a witness.
Parcel opened, found to be empty, and because the staff saw it, they let me immediately log it as opened and having had the contents stolen.
mikeveal said:
Big Tav said:
Hi guys, thanks for te responses! I have found a new watch in Italy from a dealer for just over €3000 so I need to confirm that I have this right. The seller says his online price includes VAT so when it arrives to me or gets stopped at customs it will not have any VAT or import duties at all to pay? I don't want to make a mistake that size!


Make sure you have a witness when you open the parcel. Expensive stuff that goes through the Italian postal service does't always go through the Italian postal service, if you know what I mean.
I got caught on a Tissot. The parcel bag had been cut open and resealed with packing tape, fortunately I was excited enough to open the parcel in the parcel office - so I had a couple of counter staff to act as a witness.
Parcel opened, found to be empty, and because the staff saw it, they let me immediately log it as opened and having had the contents stolen.
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