Loco sheds and other railway buildings...

Loco sheds and other railway buildings...

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Venisonpie

3,345 posts

84 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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anonymous said:
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Brilliant, thanks - I could listen to that all day. I've seen a few of these and they do seem slightly reluctant starters..

Yertis

18,169 posts

268 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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God it must've been even more grim up north than I thought wink


anonymous said:
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thumbup That's entirely understandable, my favourite diesel locomotives.

P5BNij

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15,875 posts

108 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Venisonpie said:
P5BNij said:
I'd just prepped these two on the shed shift one day in 1984....

What would preparing a diesel loco entail, it sounds as though they're not quite turn key in operation?
Before you even start the loco up you have to do a visual check all around the outside, checking for damage to the brake rigging, windscreens, couplings, brake pipes, fuel gauges, make sure any sand boxes are full etc, inside the cabs you have to make sure that the safety equipment is present, ie; detonators (they have to be in date too), a working tail lamp for emergencies, fire extinguishers etc. Once the battery switch is engaged you can press the start button, depending on how long the loco has been standing it can take a few seconds or several minutes to fire up. On a 66, it goes though a priming cycle before turning over and firing up. Once it's fired up you put the master key in and this will allow the compressor to build up the air to allow the brakes to be released, you can't take power until the system is charged up properly. When you've got your air up you go through the cab prep, trying out the brakes (both the main air and the loco's own direct air brake), horns, dead man's treadle, AWS, wipers, lights etc, taking power in forward and reverse by one or two notches, then you can take the parking brake off and crack on. On a 66 it takes about fifteen minutes to do both cabs, on a 70 it takes about a fortnight!


Found another nice old shot of Willesden Roundhouse from the early '60s....



Saltley in May 1980....



Early Peak at Toton in 1973....



A misty morning at Bardon Hill in Leicestershire, looking up the bank towards Coalville....



Bescot Yard alongside the M6....



My mate prepping a 47 at Rugby for a trip to Crewe....





Washwood Heath in Brum c.1969, Saltley driver 'Stacker' Steadman's finest hour....


matchmaker

8,530 posts

202 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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P5BNij said:
Washwood Heath in Brum c.1969, Saltley driver 'Stacker' Steadman's finest hour....

Is that the sound of an approaching Form 1 I hear?

P5BNij

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15,875 posts

108 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Yes the awful Ealing crash is one that's hard to forget, I've read the official report and it's grim. The Old Oak crew aboard D1007 'Western Talisman' were pretty much unscathed but the secondman left the job not long afterwards, if memory serves. It did occasionally come up in conversation in the mess room at '81A', as did several other incidents, such as the one involving D1040 'Western Queen' at Knowle & Dorridge in August '63 and the one involving D1055 'Western Advocate' at Worcester in January '76, both tragic events that should never have happened. I was present when 50 041 turned on its side at Padd with the up Penzance Sleeper on 23/11/83, you could have heard a pin drop once the dust had settled, I was on my way to Old Oak for an early morning turn, when I finally got to the depot and entered the lobby it was heaving with train crew who'd all booked on with nowhere to go.

Here's D1007 in the 'canteen siding' at Old Oak in February '74, just before it was towed to Swindon Works for cutting up along with Hymek D7100....



Didn't know about the Ivatt but know about the Baby Deltic being built from a 37 and North British 22 being built by a group I used to be a member of.

P5BNij

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15,875 posts

108 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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matchmaker said:
P5BNij said:
Washwood Heath in Brum c.1969, Saltley driver 'Stacker' Steadman's finest hour....

Is that the sound of an approaching Form 1 I hear?
I'll say.... wink





(The site of this semi legendary incident will soon be underneath HS2)

bristolracer

5,569 posts

151 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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P5BNij said:
Rather reminds me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUBXuOwsWQY&ab...

Another perfect stacking manoeuvre

Pupp

12,281 posts

274 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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I drive past the old Wellingborough roundhouse every few days and was very pleased when it was decided to preserve it.... on the opposite side of the new road that now goes by it, sits the remains of the old Midland Works, down by a watercourse, I think something to do with the town’s small former steel making capability. Would love to know a bit more of the history of that site but some idle googling has revealed previous little.

Enjoying the images; very evocative as my old man was a loco driver in Corby steel works

P5BNij

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15,875 posts

108 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Pupp said:
I drive past the old Wellingborough roundhouse every few days and was very pleased when it was decided to preserve it.... on the opposite side of the new road that now goes by it, sits the remains of the old Midland Works, down by a watercourse, I think something to do with the town’s small former steel making capability. Would love to know a bit more of the history of that site but some idle googling has revealed previous little.

Enjoying the images; very evocative as my old man was a loco driver in Corby steel works
The area around Kettering, Corby and Wellingborough was once littered with iron ore works and branch lines, there's a wonderful series of books on Northamptonshire (and Warwickshire) railways by Richard Coleman which are well worth seeking out, particularly the colour one. Amazing to think that Northamptonshire once had something like sixty five railway stations but no has only six.


https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=raiwlays+of+northampt...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Railway-Images-Northampto...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Steaming-into-Northampton...



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Edited by P5BNij on Friday 12th March 20:50

Venisonpie

3,345 posts

84 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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P5BNij said:
Before you even start the loco up you have to do a visual check all around the outside, checking for damage to the brake rigging, windscreens, couplings, brake pipes, fuel gauges, make sure any sand boxes are full etc, inside the cabs you have to make sure that the safety equipment is present, ie; detonators (they have to be in date too), a working tail lamp for emergencies, fire extinguishers etc. Once the battery switch is engaged you can press the start button, depending on how long the loco has been standing it can take a few seconds or several minutes to fire up. On a 66, it goes though a priming cycle before turning over and firing up. Once it's fired up you put the master key in and this will allow the compressor to build up the air to allow the brakes to be released, you can't take power until the system is charged up properly. When you've got your air up you go through the cab prep, trying out the brakes (both the main air and the loco's own direct air brake), horns, dead man's treadle, AWS, wipers, lights etc, taking power in forward and reverse by one or two notches, then you can take the parking brake off and crack on. On a 66 it takes about fifteen minutes to do both cabs, on a 70 it takes about a fortnight!
Thanks for that.

velocemitch

3,824 posts

222 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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I started a 37 at Huddersfield once. During the days when the drivers would be happy to let you site in the cab whilst they went to get a cup of tea. When they came back, they just said push that button there lad.
I remember once my mate prevented a Potential disaster, we were on the platform mooching about and the 19:30 Parcels to Wakefield was sat waiting to go. As usual the crew ( this pair were obviously ASLEF men, used to call everyone comrade or brother!) were having a brew in the bothy. The brakes must have leaked off and the handbrake not screwed down right, the train started rolling down the grade towards the viaduct. My mate was on it like a flash, screwed the brake down and stopped it just before the end of the platform and before it could foul the up main. I often wondered what would have happened if he hadn’t, but was still on it as it sailed off down the line possibly wrong direction as it was on the up platform, facing down. I’m sure he would have got the blame for ‘stealing it’

Edited by velocemitch on Saturday 13th March 13:07

silverfoxcc

7,727 posts

147 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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When bunking Kentish Town in the early 60s, we cabbed a Class 25 or 24?. He was in the drivers seat and i sat in the second mans. I have no idea what he pulled but the loco started to roll slowly forward towards the turntable and it wasn't set for this road!!
The look of horror on his face as i exited the cab was a picture but he did something and it stopped about a foot away from the drop

He never cabbed another diesel, unless invited by the driver

KateV8

448 posts

154 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Reminds me of a summer in the late 70's when me and two mates (we were about 15) befriended the staff at our local station, a small one between Liverpool and Manchester. We did everything except despatch trains, including brewing up, brushing up, printing and selling tickets and carrying parcels. I suppose we became unpaid labour by we didn't care, we loved it. One time we had to ride our bikes as fast as we could to get the porter out of the local bookmakers, we'd been left in charge of the station and we got a tip off that an inspector was due a visit. The highlight was seeing the 'Brickliner', two 25's hauling open wagons loaded with bricks. P5B may remember this as it originated somewhere in London and split at Trafford Park in Manchester. The portion we used to see was heading for Garston Docks in Liverpool. Happy, simple times that most kids these days wouldn't be interested in.

Pinkie15

1,248 posts

82 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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P5BNij said:
matchmaker said:
P5BNij said:
Washwood Heath in Brum c.1969, Saltley driver 'Stacker' Steadman's finest hour....

Is that the sound of an approaching Form 1 I hear?
I'll say.... wink





(The site of this semi legendary incident will soon be underneath HS2)
Okay, how did that happen? Had a (quick) Google, but can't find anything.

Pinkie15

1,248 posts

82 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Pinkie15 said:
P5BNij said:
matchmaker said:
P5BNij said:
Washwood Heath in Brum c.1969, Saltley driver 'Stacker' Steadman's finest hour....

Is that the sound of an approaching Form 1 I hear?
I'll say.... wink





(The site of this semi legendary incident will soon be underneath HS2)
Okay, how did that happen? Had a (quick) Google, but can't find anything.
P5BNij said:


Here's D1007 in the 'canteen siding' at Old Oak in February '74, just before it was towed to Swindon Works for cutting up along with Hymek D7100....

Is the Hymek damage at the cab door? If so any idea of the incident

IJWS15

1,877 posts

87 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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demic said:
I think it closed as a train crew depot in the early eighties and was amalgamated with Neville Hill train crew depot at Leeds station (still some sour grapes and more light hearted ribbing between them 30 yrs on!) . Jarvis (remember them?) had it for looking after plant and then latterly Northern in its various guises have used it as fuelling/stabling point.

Thornaby is in a sorry state. All the depot building have been demolished, but the remains of the roundhouse are clearly visible through the silver birches.

Thanks for posting these images, modern depots just don’t have the character (or grime and filth!)
I spent six weeks at Thornaby in 82 as a graduate trainee, just before I had been in a meeting in Newcastle with the AME where one of the subjects was moving the DMU servicing into and closing the DMU facility (Middlesbrough?) - I was sworn to secrecy however the staff guessed when watering facilities were added to one of the depot lines.

IIRC the turntable was manual operation only - or the fitters were having me on.

P5BNij

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15,875 posts

108 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Pinkie15 said:
Pinkie15 said:
P5BNij said:
matchmaker said:
P5BNij said:
Washwood Heath in Brum c.1969, Saltley driver 'Stacker' Steadman's finest hour....

Is that the sound of an approaching Form 1 I hear?
I'll say.... wink





(The site of this semi legendary incident will soon be underneath HS2)
Okay, how did that happen? Had a (quick) Google, but can't find anything.
P5BNij said:


Here's D1007 in the 'canteen siding' at Old Oak in February '74, just before it was towed to Swindon Works for cutting up along with Hymek D7100....

Is the Hymek damage at the cab door? If so any idea of the incident
Regarding Stacker Steadman’s little faux pah, the story goes that he was approaching the stop block too fast, applied the brakes but the weight of the tank wagons overcame the braking power and he went through the block, the weight of those tanks also forcing the lighter box vans up into the air, landing on top of each other.

The Hymek was already withdrawn from service before the damage was done to it, it was used as by the depot’s breakdown crane gang for a retailing excercise using inflatable air bags.

smile




Edited by P5BNij on Saturday 13th March 14:50

P5BNij

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Saturday 13th March 2021
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KateV8 said:
Reminds me of a summer in the late 70's when me and two mates (we were about 15) befriended the staff at our local station, a small one between Liverpool and Manchester. We did everything except despatch trains, including brewing up, brushing up, printing and selling tickets and carrying parcels. I suppose we became unpaid labour by we didn't care, we loved it. One time we had to ride our bikes as fast as we could to get the porter out of the local bookmakers, we'd been left in charge of the station and we got a tip off that an inspector was due a visit. The highlight was seeing the 'Brickliner', two 25's hauling open wagons loaded with bricks. P5B may remember this as it originated somewhere in London and split at Trafford Park in Manchester. The portion we used to see was heading for Garston Docks in Liverpool. Happy, simple times that most kids these days wouldn't be interested in.
Yes I remember those brick liner jobs, some came up from London and some from the numerous brickworks along the Bedford to Bletchley branch. Almost the entire route from Bow Brickhill to Kempston Hardwick had brickworks and chimneys on both sides of the line. All of the works closed long ago and most were demolished, but there are still four chimneys left standing at Stewartby, not that far from Marston Moretain where the late Captain Sir Tom Moore lived. Alongside the next station down the line at Millbrook is the motor proving ground often seen on Top Gear and Wheeler Dealers etc.

KateV8

448 posts

154 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Some nostalgia for me and PB5, the brick liner passing through Staffordshire. Photo taken from a magazine article.

P5BNij

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Saturday 13th March 2021
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KateV8 said:


Some nostalgia for me and PB5, the brick liner passing through Staffordshire. Photo taken from a magazine article.
Four track section suggests Milford & Brockton - Stafford or onwards towards Crewe smile