Sailing Terminology - why on earth is it so silly?!

Sailing Terminology - why on earth is it so silly?!

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pikey

7,701 posts

286 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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XJSJohn said:
Which boat were you on ... (sure i will find out as i read) ...

Back in the early days when it was the British Steel challenge i did a few shakedown events (few Cherbourg races and one to St Malo) on the Hoffbrau boat.

Never got the cash / time / courage up to sign up as a legger
Excuses, excuses! biggrin

I can understand not doing the whole lot, but couldn't find any valid excuses for not doing a leg.

Just look at it... Click Superb!


XJSJohn

15,981 posts

221 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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pikey said:
XJSJohn said:
Which boat were you on ... (sure i will find out as i read) ...

Back in the early days when it was the British Steel challenge i did a few shakedown events (few Cherbourg races and one to St Malo) on the Hoffbrau boat.

Never got the cash / time / courage up to sign up as a legger
Excuses, excuses! biggrin

I can understand not doing the whole lot, but couldn't find any valid excuses for not doing a leg.

Just look at it... Click Superb!
that looks far too involved ... .

prefer sailing without too many waves ... salt water in the G&T just won't doo dont'cha know biggrin

pikey

7,701 posts

286 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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XJSJohn said:
that looks far too involved ... .

prefer sailing without too many waves ... salt water in the G&T just won't doo dont'cha know biggrin
Ah, well I can head off that excuse:

Take years of drinking too many G&Ts, eating too many pies, not going to the gym and generally turning unfit and a bit blobby..... then plonk yourself on a leg of the Global Challenge for a month and 'Ping' - all fixed! Controlled diet and about 12 hours of gym a day works wonders.

hehe

PS. I'm f**ked again now frown


Mahatma Bag

27,428 posts

281 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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pikey said:
XJSJohn said:
Which boat were you on ... (sure i will find out as i read) ...

Back in the early days when it was the British Steel challenge i did a few shakedown events (few Cherbourg races and one to St Malo) on the Hoffbrau boat.

Never got the cash / time / courage up to sign up as a legger
Excuses, excuses! biggrin

I can understand not doing the whole lot, but couldn't find any valid excuses for not doing a leg.

Just look at it... Click Superb!
Submarine untangling fishing net! hehe

pikey

7,701 posts

286 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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Mahatma Bag said:
Submarine untangling fishing net! hehe
Yes, a lesson in just how gullible people really are! I mean... it came with a picture to give a clue. A PICTURE.. that's so photoshopped it's ridiculous!

Clicky

I particularly liked the fact it got a lazy hack too! hehe

jesusbuiltmycar

4,544 posts

256 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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cptsideways said:
Mahatma Bag said:
cptsideways said:
Its so us windsurfer's can spot them a mile away when down the pub, all we know is we can go faster them: nerrr nerrrr nerrr na nerrr biglaugh
Oh really? Check out the first fifteen seconds of this video:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=24L8fk4DgKs

hehehehe
hehe Feck!!! But thats cheating, how many crew per mph though wink
I wouldn't worry a windsurfer still holds the current world record for fastest wind powered water craft (something like 49 knots - I can imagine a wipeout at that speed really hurts!)

Nic Jones

7,071 posts

222 months

Tuesday 7th August 2007
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Mahatma Bag said:
e.g. "Take a bight of the lazy guy from leeward under the foot of the sail, flake the spinny halyard, trip the pole and letterbox it"!!

Anybody guess what we want to happen here?

Disturbingly I understood all of that and don't even sail big boats!

In our boat all the ropes are different colours, so for experienced crew I can say to pull in the jib, kite, cunningham, kicker, rig tension etc with inexperienced crew I can tell them to pull the red, yellow, blue, red and blue or purple rope!

I was taught years ago that the correct way to tack is the following:

Helmsman: "Get ready to tack"

Crew: "Ready"

Helmsman: "Lee ho!"

In reality it is more like.....

Helmsman (Me): Shit we need to tack, we're being ed over by these other boats

Crew: *inaudible grunt*

Me: TACK!

Crew: ing hell

Me: That was ing awful we need to get this right before the rest of these s overtake us!

The alternative ending contains a splash! wink paperbag

XJSJohn

15,981 posts

221 months

Wednesday 8th August 2007
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Nic Jones said:
[In reality it is more like.....

Helmsman (Me): Shit we need to tack, we're being ed over by these other boats

Crew: *inaudible grunt*

Me: TACK!

Crew: ing hell

Me: That was ing awful we need to get this right before the rest of these s overtake us!

The alternative ending contains a splash! wink paperbag
hehe ahh you evidently were taught the same methods as myself and snoggledog biggrin

gybing is even more fun

helm - yikes Winds changed ....
crew - The .... ???
Helm - DUCK
crew - Whooosh CRACK "Oww"
Helm - sorry
crew - Oww my head ... you bloody crew next race

Snoggledog

7,329 posts

219 months

Wednesday 8th August 2007
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XJSJohn said:
Nic Jones said:
[In reality it is more like.....

Helmsman (Me): Shit we need to tack, we're being ed over by these other boats

Crew: *inaudible grunt*

Me: TACK!

Crew: ing hell

Me: That was ing awful we need to get this right before the rest of these s overtake us!

The alternative ending contains a splash! wink paperbag
hehe ahh you evidently were taught the same methods as myself and snoggledog biggrin

gybing is even more fun

helm - yikes Winds changed ....
crew - The .... ???
Helm - DUCK
crew - Whooosh CRACK "Oww"
Helm - sorry
crew - Oww my head ... you bloody crew next race
Ah the penalty of sailing on a river with shifting winds. I did try to warn you before hand hehe

Mind you that blue boat doesn't half have a mind of it's own.

D Stanley

97 posts

244 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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Eh Not quite correct on the origin of the term "Heads".

Before hawse pipes had been invented the anchor was drawn up to a square spar secured over the side in the bow. This spar was known as a cat's head. Sailors found the cats's head a convenient place to use as a toilet and so thaking a trip to the heads became the accepted term for visiting the toilet.

Oh and sailors live IN and not ON a ship.

I can't believe there have been four pages of debate and not a single reference to futtocks or baggy wrinkles.

If you are real sailors complete the following well known saying

Worm and parcel with the lay.......


Stab me vitals, what a bunch of barrack stantions.



Edited by D Stanley on Sunday 12th August 23:13

MattYorke

3,777 posts

255 months

Sunday 12th August 2007
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Remember seeing a vid some time back of a mahoosive french hydrofoil boat looking to take the record. Will see if I can find the details again.

jesusbuiltmycar said:
I wouldn't worry a windsurfer still holds the current world record for fastest wind powered water craft (something like 49 knots - I can imagine a wipeout at that speed really hurts!)

pikey

7,701 posts

286 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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MattYorke said:
Remember seeing a vid some time back of a mahoosive french hydrofoil boat looking to take the record. Will see if I can find the details again.
That's on YouTube somewhere. Incredible footage (can't find it now though)

ALawson

7,819 posts

253 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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This months Yachting World, has an article on the new french tri, just crossed the atlantic in circa 4 days. 24 hr run of about 800 miles!!!!!!! Regularly sitting on 40+ knots.

pikey

7,701 posts

286 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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ALawson said:
This months Yachting World, has an article on the new french tri, just crossed the atlantic in circa 4 days. 24 hr run of about 800 miles!!!!!!! Regularly sitting on 40+ knots.
Blimey - can you imagine pitch poling in that?! smile

ALawson

7,819 posts

253 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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Yes, but probably only once!

RobM77

Original Poster:

35,349 posts

236 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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pikey said:
ALawson said:
This months Yachting World, has an article on the new french tri, just crossed the atlantic in circa 4 days. 24 hr run of about 800 miles!!!!!!! Regularly sitting on 40+ knots.
Blimey - can you imagine pitch poling in that?! smile
can't we just say "cartwheel" winkhehe

pikey

7,701 posts

286 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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RobM77 said:
pikey said:
ALawson said:
This months Yachting World, has an article on the new french tri, just crossed the atlantic in circa 4 days. 24 hr run of about 800 miles!!!!!!! Regularly sitting on 40+ knots.
Blimey - can you imagine pitch poling in that?! smile
can't we just say "cartwheel" winkhehe
I think at 40 knots we can say "submarine", then "disintegrate". Cartwheeling is what cats do smile


RobM77

Original Poster:

35,349 posts

236 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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pikey said:
RobM77 said:
pikey said:
ALawson said:
This months Yachting World, has an article on the new french tri, just crossed the atlantic in circa 4 days. 24 hr run of about 800 miles!!!!!!! Regularly sitting on 40+ knots.
Blimey - can you imagine pitch poling in that?! smile
can't we just say "cartwheel" winkhehe
I think at 40 knots we can say "submarine", then "disintegrate". Cartwheeling is what cats do smile

I'm actually about to learn to sail in an 18 foot Hobie in a few weeks time. Now, sailing originally appealled to me over my usual sport of motor racing (Caterhams) due to the fact it was safer. Is pitch poling / cartwheeling common and does it cause many injuries? It might be a valid reason to move into mono hulls for my next course - I like to have fun but injuring myself doesn't really appeal!

Snoggledog

7,329 posts

219 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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RobM77 said:
I'm actually about to learn to sail in an 18 foot Hobie in a few weeks time. Now, sailing originally appealled to me over my usual sport of motor racing (Caterhams) due to the fact it was safer. Is pitch poling / cartwheeling common and does it cause many injuries? It might be a valid reason to move into mono hulls for my next course - I like to have fun but injuring myself doesn't really appeal!
Pitch poling can happen no matter what you sail. If the boat pitchpoles and you're on the wire then it's likely that you'll just be thrown forward and end up dangling on the end of the trapeze. You might catch the shrouds on your way past but shouldn't sustain too much in the way of injury. Now if you're sat on the side rather than out on the wire when the boat pitch poles then that'll hurt a fair bit more. Say hello to the mast at 15 or so knots. Mind the space frame if you wish to retain the opportunity to have children. hehe

pikey

7,701 posts

286 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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RobM77 said:
I'm actually about to learn to sail in an 18 foot Hobie in a few weeks time. Now, sailing originally appealled to me over my usual sport of motor racing (Caterhams) due to the fact it was safer. Is pitch poling / cartwheeling common and does it cause many injuries? It might be a valid reason to move into mono hulls for my next course - I like to have fun but injuring myself doesn't really appeal!
Hobies are huuuuge fun to play with. I've found they pitchpole only if you're having too much fun and not paying attention! Most of the likelyhood of damage is to the boat rather than you, although you could be unlucky and land in the wrong place!

You'll love it - the floating version of a Caterham!! smile