Brexit - was it worth it? (Vol. 4)
Discussion
272BHP said:
To all the remainers on here, are you sure you want to rejoin?
https://unherd.com/2024/05/the-eu-is-turning-into-...
Unherd is a brexit supporter so not really a reliable source.https://unherd.com/2024/05/the-eu-is-turning-into-...
As an example the article says the EU is cracking down of free speech by sending police into a NatCon conference in Brussels. Thats just a lie. It was a Brussels mayor who's decision was quickly reversed in court.
As opposed to brexit Britain where one party wants to withdraw from the ECHR, and some party MP's even repeal the HRA.
Edited by Mrr T on Friday 10th May 08:26
732NM said:
No country produces everything they need.
How the rest of the world survives outside the EU seems to be a mystery to you.
Having lived outside the EU most of my life I know exactly what happens.How the rest of the world survives outside the EU seems to be a mystery to you.
"Hello (_)America/(_)China,
Shall I bend over now? No Lube? That sounds dandy"
Being in the EU gave the UK the power to say no, brexiteers will be surprised when they finally figure out the UK on its own doesn't have that power.
732NM said:
I live jn Cambridgeshire, Cambridge and the surrounding area is booming with life sciences investment.
Cambridge voted overwhelmingly in favour of remaining in the European Union. I guess that underlines the quantitative evidence that show people with lower cognitive ability "were more likely to vote for Brexit". Cognitive ability mattered in the UK’s vote for Brexit, research shows
https://www.bath.ac.uk/announcements/cognitive-abi...
To be fair, the Brexit decision was not an intelligence test; but it did require some critical thinking skills.
CivicDuties said:
Unherd is an opinion based propaganda outfit masquerading as journalism.
Most Journalism is opinion. It's a journal, after all.Anyway, Unherd is thoroughly right-wing and pro-brexit, owned by a knighted conservative hedge-fund owner, Sir Paul Roderick Clucas Marshall, who also owns GB News.
CraigyMc said:
CivicDuties said:
Unherd is an opinion based propaganda outfit masquerading as journalism.
Most Journalism is opinion. It's a journal, after all.Anyway, Unherd is thoroughly right-wing and pro-brexit, owned by a knighted conservative hedge-fund owner, Sir Paul Roderick Clucas Marshall, who also owns GB News.
272BHP said:
And yet Unherd has an AllSides media bias score of just 0.7 so rated as firmly in the centre.
More central it seems than BBC News which was -0.8 and far more even handed than the Guardian which was -2.4 at last look.
That makes no difference as to whether Unherd publishes journalism or opinion farming.More central it seems than BBC News which was -0.8 and far more even handed than the Guardian which was -2.4 at last look.
732NM said:
No country produces everything they need.
How the rest of the world survives outside the EU seems to be a mystery to you.
Its hard work this. Leaving the EU left us with trade barriers that we did not have before, they have an impact on supply chain, its what they are called BarriersHow the rest of the world survives outside the EU seems to be a mystery to you.
In many cases other countries also suffer from trade barriers, its why many want to join the EU, it gives access to a large trading block without barriers, and its not something we can replace quickly, if at all.
What seems to escape you - is that Nuffield have stated that drug supply chains are impacted. However much you look at the moon and shout "moo", it doesn't make you a cow any more than saying here that brexit hasn't impacted supply chains makes you right..
272BHP said:
And yet Unherd has an AllSides media bias score of just 0.7 so rated as firmly in the centre.
More central it seems than BBC News which was -0.8 and far more even handed than the Guardian which was -2.4 at last look.
You mean the article which said the EU was clamping down on free speech by shutting down a NatCon conference in Brussels. Which how can I put it? IS A LIE.More central it seems than BBC News which was -0.8 and far more even handed than the Guardian which was -2.4 at last look.
CivicDuties said:
272BHP said:
And yet Unherd has an AllSides media bias score of just 0.7 so rated as firmly in the centre.
More central it seems than BBC News which was -0.8 and far more even handed than the Guardian which was -2.4 at last look.
That makes no difference as to whether Unherd publishes journalism or opinion farming.More central it seems than BBC News which was -0.8 and far more even handed than the Guardian which was -2.4 at last look.
In fact, unherd is textbook "conservative christian".
M.
272BHP said:
Mortarboard said:
Why do you think remainers want to rejoin?
Serious question.
M.
Do the majority of the pro EU group not want to rejoin? Serious question.
M.
That is not the impression I get reading this thread.
M.
blueg33 said:
We had beneficial terms that were thrown away with Brexit, we wouldn't get those if we rejoin.
Dunno how anyone can say this with certainty.Lets say there's a war and part of the UK getting involved protecting the EU is that a deal needs to happen. Then what would the terms be?
The future is simply not written yet.
blueg33 said:
Leaving the EU left us with trade barriers that we did not have before, they have an impact on supply chain, its what they are called Barriers
Can’t argue with that. That’s the very reason I voted for the Common Market all those years ago. For me the rules, costs and ambitions of the EU became too much hence voted leave.
blueg33 said:
We had beneficial terms that were thrown away with Brexit, we wouldn't get those if we rejoin.
Rejoining in any form would be a net benefit.But it'll be a negotiation when it inevitably happens, based on whatever global circumstances exist at that point in the future. What we had before is irrelevant, and shouldn't be used as a benchmark.
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