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Rovinghawk said:
Picking up on a typo is the most useful thing you've done on this thread.That massive chip on your shoulder must be causing you musculo-skeletal problems by now.
Keep on taking the tablets ...
Red 4 said:
Picking up on a typo is the most useful thing you've done on this thread.
That massive chip on your shoulder must be causing you musculo-skeletal problems by now.
Keep on taking the tablets ...
That's not a typo, that's poor spelling. A typo is when you do tihs.That massive chip on your shoulder must be causing you musculo-skeletal problems by now.
Keep on taking the tablets ...
So I have a dislike of the semi-illiterate; get over it or learn to spell.
Rovinghawk said:
Red 4 said:
Picking up on a typo is the most useful thing you've done on this thread.
That massive chip on your shoulder must be causing you musculo-skeletal problems by now.
Keep on taking the tablets ...
That's not a typo, that's poor spelling. A typo is when you do tihs.That massive chip on your shoulder must be causing you musculo-skeletal problems by now.
Keep on taking the tablets ...
So I have a dislike of the semi-illiterate; get over it or learn to spell.
Vincefox said:
Rovinghawk said:
Red 4 said:
Picking up on a typo is the most useful thing you've done on this thread.
That massive chip on your shoulder must be causing you musculo-skeletal problems by now.
Keep on taking the tablets ...
That's not a typo, that's poor spelling. A typo is when you do tihs.That massive chip on your shoulder must be causing you musculo-skeletal problems by now.
Keep on taking the tablets ...
So I have a dislike of the semi-illiterate; get over it or learn to spell.
Rovinghawk said:
Red 4 said:
... and police.
Only the bad ones.This thread is about cuts and a single-crewed female sergeant who was assaulted, not your petty, almost obsessive anti-police rhetoric.
Do you think police officers on general patrol should be single-crewed ?
Red 4 said:
This thread is about cuts and a single-crewed female sergeant who was assaulted
She was assaulted because she made a mistake, not because of cuts.Red 4 said:
not your petty, almost obsessive anti-police rhetoric.
Re-read the bit about not being anti-police but being anti- bad police. (For that matter, bad anything else.)Red 4 said:
Do you think police officers on general patrol should be single-crewed ?
I think that different situations call for different manning levels- anyone generalising is likely to be wrong a lot of the time. I notice that you've been generalising.Rovinghawk said:
Red 4 said:
This thread is about cuts and a single-crewed female sergeant who was assaulted
She was assaulted because she made a mistake, not because of cuts.Red 4 said:
not your petty, almost obsessive anti-police rhetoric.
Re-read the bit about not being anti-police but being anti- bad police. (For that matter, bad anything else.)Red 4 said:
Do you think police officers on general patrol should be single-crewed ?
I think that different situations call for different manning levels- anyone generalising is likely to be wrong a lot of the time. I notice that you've been generalising.I'll ask again - do you think police officers should be routinely single-crewed ?
Try to answer the question this time (P.S. It's called staffing these days - "manning" just isn't politically correct).
Edited by Red 4 on Monday 23 February 23:01
Snozzwangler said:
brenflys777 said:
For the avoidance of doubt - the Police budget used to be bigger than the foreign aid budget.
On a national level this is about government priorities ( aid over Police ) and the Police trying to manage expectations about the effect cuts will have on service.
At a local level it's about fewer Police, doing the same job but with more single crews and increased risk.
So would abolishing foreign aid provide a police service you'd want?On a national level this is about government priorities ( aid over Police ) and the Police trying to manage expectations about the effect cuts will have on service.
At a local level it's about fewer Police, doing the same job but with more single crews and increased risk.
Maybe it's time we benchmarked pay and benefits to appropriate roles in the private sector? (I'm waiting for someone to wrongly rant about privatisation
)If Every sector of government spending was cut by 10% because we overspent by 10% then we could say the government placed the same priority or importance to each area. If the NHS is ring fenced or the foreign aid budget increased, whilst the Police budget is cut then it is clear they are higher priorities to the government than the Police. Personally in times of cutbacks, I'd rather favour the Police over foreign aid, but the two are linked.
Your comments about benchmarking wages etc and others about the Police always asking for more money make it sound as though this is about the individual financial benefits of being employed by the Police. I don't think it is. Financially an officer on an understaffed team will probably pick up more overtime, in the short term they might be better off, but the risk to life and limb goes up when you lack appropriate backup.
Red 4 said:
Really ? What mistake was that ?
Start with not closing the car door. Red 4 said:
I'll ask again - do you think police officers should be routinely single-crewed ?
I'll answer again- different situations call for different manning levels & generalisation leads to often being wrong.In other words, it depends on circumstances. For real safety, why don't you go round in squads of six or eight? Possibly because it's often disproportionate.
Rovinghawk said:
I'll answer again- different situations call for different manning levels & generalisation leads to often being wrong.
In other words, it depends on circumstances. For real safety, why don't you go round in squads of six or eight? Possibly because it's often disproportionate.
... laughable.In other words, it depends on circumstances. For real safety, why don't you go round in squads of six or eight? Possibly because it's often disproportionate.
Vincefox said:
Rovinghawk said:
Red 4 said:
Picking up on a typo is the most useful thing you've done on this thread.
That massive chip on your shoulder must be causing you musculo-skeletal problems by now.
Keep on taking the tablets ...
That's not a typo, that's poor spelling. A typo is when you do tihs.That massive chip on your shoulder must be causing you musculo-skeletal problems by now.
Keep on taking the tablets ...
So I have a dislike of the semi-illiterate; get over it or learn to spell.
While the cop's privitisation could be an error of ignorance, you actually don't know that in truth, it could still be a 'typo'.
The 'semi-illiterate' can't string a sentence of ten words together. Certainly without making another error of ignorance.
You simply just don't like Red 4, do you? Simples!
Rovinghawk said:
I can't stand the sanctimonious arrogant git, but don't normally say it quite this plainly. 
Sanctimonious ? Arrogant ? Moi ? (I'll have the git bit).Perhaps that is because you perceive me as being arrogant because you know not of what you speak.
In simple terms you clearly know less than my pet goldfish about policing.
Your post about officers being single-crewed depending on the circumstances is just one example of your alternate universe - the point is that officers do not know who or what they will come up against.
Perhaps you would include a crystal ball in the officer's kit list or are you Mystic Meg ?
Edited by Red 4 on Monday 23 February 23:33
The officer did seem to lower her face down to the open window before she got hit.
I'm reminded that most of the marked cars I've been in have had the rear interior door handles and window winders disabled. One benefit of that would not being able to hit or grab another, be it a member of the public or an officer of the law through an open window.
Hindsight etc.
If that call out was double crewed a colleague could have suggested not to leave her head like that beside an open window.
'Assess threats and develop a working strategy....
'Identify options and contingencies....
I'm reminded that most of the marked cars I've been in have had the rear interior door handles and window winders disabled. One benefit of that would not being able to hit or grab another, be it a member of the public or an officer of the law through an open window.
Hindsight etc.
If that call out was double crewed a colleague could have suggested not to leave her head like that beside an open window.
'Assess threats and develop a working strategy....
'Identify options and contingencies....
Edited by carinaman on Monday 23 February 23:39
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