Israel invaded
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It looks like Netanyahu wanted this war from the start. He planned it, He financed it. And he allowed it to happen. Why? So that he can ethnically cleanse not only Gaza but the rest of Israel and the West Bank. He doesn't want peace. He doesn't want a 2 state solution. He doesn't care about the hostages. Check this out.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-...
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/joe-netany...
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-...
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/joe-netany...
Hannieh's family almost totally wiped out - will the mid-ranking hamas members be looking over their shoulders? I don't think the leadership will collapse anytime soon, but the screw is tightening:
https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-796372
https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-796372
skyrover said:
skwdenyer said:
The short answer is because Israel has positioned itself as a moral leader, as "people like us" (even joining Eurovision!!), .
They are doint the right thing. They are cutting out the tumor that is Hamas and protecting their people.The Palestianians voted this cancer into power, and now they must be removed as painful as it is.
Ironic Israel looks to protect it's people while Hamas looks to martyr it's own.
Biker 1 said:
Hannieh's family almost totally wiped out - will the mid-ranking hamas members be looking over their shoulders? I don't think the leadership will collapse anytime soon, but the screw is tightening:
https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-796372
A good hithttps://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-796372
skwdenyer said:
skyrover said:
skwdenyer said:
The short answer is because Israel has positioned itself as a moral leader, as "people like us" (even joining Eurovision!!), .
They are doint the right thing. They are cutting out the tumor that is Hamas and protecting their people.The Palestianians voted this cancer into power, and now they must be removed as painful as it is.
Ironic Israel looks to protect it's people while Hamas looks to martyr it's own.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinia...
Some serious mental gymnastics to suggest Israel is responsible for Hamas behaviour.
Also interesting that Hamas follows the typical radical Islamist playbook found across the middle east, regardless of Jews being present or not.
skyrover said:
The same Hamas that is exclusively composed of Palestinians, elected by Palestinians and vastly supported by Palestinians, despite their essentially single minded focus on murdering Israeli's and martyring their subjects.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinia...
Some serious mental gymnastics to suggest Israel is responsible for Hamas behaviour.
Also interesting that Hamas follows the typical radical Islamist playbook found across the middle east, regardless of Jews being present or not.
It's also a fallacy to assume it was merely PA vs Hamas. This article from 2018:-https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinia...
Some serious mental gymnastics to suggest Israel is responsible for Hamas behaviour.
Also interesting that Hamas follows the typical radical Islamist playbook found across the middle east, regardless of Jews being present or not.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/why-israel-is-s...
"Hamas is not the worst of the Palestinian groups opposed to Israel. Jihadist groups more akin to the Islamic State and al-Qaeda also have limited followings in Gaza as does Hamas’ long-time rival, Palestine Islamic Jihad, which works closely with Iran."
Obviously it was a wrong call, but hindsight [even in 2018] was a wonderful thing. Can you imagine the outcry if Israel had invaded in 2018?
How will Iran carry out it's threatened retaliation? I would be very surprised if they actually attack Israel directly from Iranian soil, but who knows?
https://m.jpost.com/middle-east/irans-continued-th...
https://m.jpost.com/middle-east/irans-continued-th...
skyrover said:
The same Hamas that is exclusively composed of Palestinians, elected by Palestinians and vastly supported by Palestinians, despite their essentially single minded focus on murdering Israeli's and martyring their subjects.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinia...
Some serious mental gymnastics to suggest Israel is responsible for Hamas behaviour.
Also interesting that Hamas follows the typical radical Islamist playbook found across the middle east, regardless of Jews being present or not.
If Hamas is so bad why did Israeli leadership channel them funding to get them into power? https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinia...
Some serious mental gymnastics to suggest Israel is responsible for Hamas behaviour.
Also interesting that Hamas follows the typical radical Islamist playbook found across the middle east, regardless of Jews being present or not.
‘Hamas financier’ found riddled with bullets in Lebanon villa
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/hamas-financi...
I'm much more supportive of this type of activity by Israel, and less of their indiscriminate bombings in Gaza.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/hamas-financi...
I'm much more supportive of this type of activity by Israel, and less of their indiscriminate bombings in Gaza.
NRS said:
skyrover said:
The same Hamas that is exclusively composed of Palestinians, elected by Palestinians and vastly supported by Palestinians, despite their essentially single minded focus on murdering Israeli's and martyring their subjects.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinia...
Some serious mental gymnastics to suggest Israel is responsible for Hamas behaviour.
Also interesting that Hamas follows the typical radical Islamist playbook found across the middle east, regardless of Jews being present or not.
If Hamas is so bad why did Israeli leadership channel them funding to get them into power? https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinia...
Some serious mental gymnastics to suggest Israel is responsible for Hamas behaviour.
Also interesting that Hamas follows the typical radical Islamist playbook found across the middle east, regardless of Jews being present or not.
Hamas were happy to accept the money and the blind eyes that Netanyahu gave them because they had their own agenda and it certainly didn't align with Netanyahu. But Netanyahu's arrogance meant that either he didn't think the snake would ever really bite him, OR he was hoping for that bite to arrive so that he could respond with force to crush Hamas - this latter scenario is the more likely imho.
Unfortunately for all, the Snake (Hamas) not only bit, but proved to be very effective in its bite.
andymadmak said:
Very interesting. I wonder how they'd have answered if reminded how Hamas came to power or has been supported and funded.Zed 44 said:
NRS said:
If Hamas is so bad why did Israeli leadership channel them funding to get them into power?
So that they could start a war that would ethnically cleanse not only Gaza but but the whole of the West Bank you fool..Netanyahu needs to go (along with the settler cranks) and a leader that can rehabilitate the West Bank and Gaza peacefully installed. Hopefully the electorate in Israel have woken up the realities now and think about their choices.
100% in support of Mossad executions of Hamas leaders, wherever they may be. Long may it continue.
skwdenyer said:
Very interesting. I wonder how they'd have answered if reminded how Hamas came to power or has been supported and funded.
You're referring I presume to the way netanyahu provided millions to hamas. https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-...
KarlMac said:
Does he want to ethnically cleanse ALL Palestinians or finally put an end to paramilitary organisations that have blighted his entire life?
Netanyahu needs to go (along with the settler cranks) and a leader that can rehabilitate the West Bank and Gaza peacefully installed. Hopefully the electorate in Israel have woken up the realities now and think about their choices.
100% in support of Mossad executions of Hamas leaders, wherever they may be. Long may it continue.
I suppose you would also have no issue with supporting assassinations of the 'settler cranks' as well as the more extremist elements of the Israeli government too?Netanyahu needs to go (along with the settler cranks) and a leader that can rehabilitate the West Bank and Gaza peacefully installed. Hopefully the electorate in Israel have woken up the realities now and think about their choices.
100% in support of Mossad executions of Hamas leaders, wherever they may be. Long may it continue.
isaldiri said:
I suppose you would also have no issue with supporting assassinations of the 'settler cranks' as well as the more extremist elements of the Israeli government too?
If they formed a terrorist organisation then yes I would. Look, you don’t have to dance around it. We’ve all worked out you support Hamas. Same as in the Ukraine thread you were dancing around the support of Russia. How very contrarian of you. Very clever.
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