At last, someone standing up for Britain
Discussion
Fidgits said:
BOR said:
That's the point you thicko. I can't speak every language so I don't expect people arriving in the UK to be immediately fluent in english either.
no, but you would expect anyone moving to another country to make a concerned effort to learn the language..unfortunatley, many brits in the south of spain dont realise this either..
I have relatives that live in Spain, and their entire life is effectively Britain with extra sun. I found it a bit sad when they proudly told me that they speak no Spanish at all after 5year plus out there because they simply don't need to.
Wadeski said:
MaxAndRuby said:
BOR said:
How come this doesn't apply to Daily Vilers on holiday abroad ? Or British ex-pats in Dubai or Barcelona or China ? How come the same rules aren't applied to them ?
How come they expect to get away without being fluent in the language of the host nation ?
Typically hypocritical.
They're on holiday.How come they expect to get away without being fluent in the language of the host nation ?
Typically hypocritical.
Please list the countries you've visited on holiday and confirm you are fluent in every language of the host nation.
BOR said:
How come this doesn't apply to Daily Vilers on holiday abroad ? Or British ex-pats in Dubai? How come the same rules aren't applied to them ?
How come they expect to get away without being fluent in the language of the host nation ?
Typically hypocritical.
Speaking from having lived in the UAE for the last 6 months. Every expat does their best to respect local law and tradition BAR NONE! Its the tourists who act like idiots and they get locked up for it! Expats actively distance themselves from this kind of behaviour. We are not allowed to claim anything from the state and if we are made redundant (like i was last week) we are expected to leave the country asap, if we dont we face jail/forced deportation! Ontop of that expats are contributing to a society that wouldnt exist in the capacity it does today, 80% of the population are expats in Dubai! And people are from every corner of the world in one small area, English is the common ground, we're lucky...Most of the police and other government sector dont speak english and any documents we fill in for visas etc are all required to be translated into arabic at a cost.How come they expect to get away without being fluent in the language of the host nation ?
Typically hypocritical.
Edited by Mark.H on Thursday 19th March 12:20
Having now read the article - good on him.
My paternal Grandmother came to the UK from Thailand in the 50's knowing the minimum of English to get by, made a point of integrating into the culture and society of England, worked bloody hard and became the Manageress of the largest Mothercare in the UK, loved everything Britain stood for (then) and was a devout royalist. She loved the country and the country loved her back - she was extremely well respected and a pillar of the community. She also never forgot her roots and was proud to be of Thai heritage.
It can be done as she and this upstanding chap have shown.
My paternal Grandmother came to the UK from Thailand in the 50's knowing the minimum of English to get by, made a point of integrating into the culture and society of England, worked bloody hard and became the Manageress of the largest Mothercare in the UK, loved everything Britain stood for (then) and was a devout royalist. She loved the country and the country loved her back - she was extremely well respected and a pillar of the community. She also never forgot her roots and was proud to be of Thai heritage.
It can be done as she and this upstanding chap have shown.
MaxAndRuby said:
Seems like a good man, and a great addition to Britain.
More publicity about people like this(and there are lots of them) would help our society.
+1 More publicity about people like this(and there are lots of them) would help our society.
Like him I really don't understand people who come to Britain for a better life and then want it to change to become more like the s
thole they left behind?BOR said:
That's the point you thicko. I can't speak every language so I don't expect people arriving in the UK to be immediately fluent in english either.
Nor does he you halfwit (see what I did there? I went down to your level), he expects people to make an effort to speak English though! Mark.H said:
BOR said:
How come this doesn't apply to Daily Vilers on holiday abroad ? Or British ex-pats in Dubai? How come the same rules aren't applied to them ?
How come they expect to get away without being fluent in the language of the host nation ?
Typically hypocritical.
...Most of the police and other government sector dont speak english and any documents we fill in for visas etc are all required to be translated into arabic at a cost.How come they expect to get away without being fluent in the language of the host nation ?
Typically hypocritical.
Edited by Mark.H on Thursday 19th March 12:20
The 'Rules' are that we had to prove we would not in any way be, and I quote "A burden on the state"
Edited by chris watton on Thursday 19th March 12:47
BOR said:
How come this doesn't apply to Daily Vilers on holiday abroad ? Or British ex-pats in Dubai or Barcelona or China ? How come the same rules aren't applied to them ?
How come they expect to get away without being fluent in the language of the host nation ?
Typically hypocritical.
Not really. I'm an ex-pat and I'm doing my best to learn Italian. I also try to speak Italian to locals that I know speak very good English. It's just polite.How come they expect to get away without being fluent in the language of the host nation ?
Typically hypocritical.
Well done that man!
BOR said:
How come this doesn't apply to Daily Vilers on holiday abroad ? Or British ex-pats in Dubai or Barcelona or China ? How come the same rules aren't applied to them ?
How come they expect to get away without being fluent in the language of the host nation ?
Typically hypocritical.
He isnt saying you have to be fluent, just enough to ask for things in his shop. Im quite happy to say that if I have to ask for things (mainly beer) when in a foreign country I always ask for it in their language. How come they expect to get away without being fluent in the language of the host nation ?
Typically hypocritical.
Sarkmeister said:
BOR said:
How come this doesn't apply to Daily Vilers on holiday abroad ? Or British ex-pats in Dubai or Barcelona or China ? How come the same rules aren't applied to them ?
How come they expect to get away without being fluent in the language of the host nation ?
Typically hypocritical.
He isnt saying you have to be fluent, just enough to ask for things in his shop. Im quite happy to say that if I have to ask for things (mainly beer) when in a foreign country I always ask for it in their language. How come they expect to get away without being fluent in the language of the host nation ?
Typically hypocritical.
Meet and Greet
Get a taxi and end up at my apartment/destination
Gamble in Macau
All in Cantonese. I would have learnt more if I had been staying longer. Locals always appreciate it when you make the extra effort. All of the expats I met were taking Cantonese or Mandarin lessons.
We are a stupid soft touch nation - it's not like english isn't exactly widely spoken is it?
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