Another 'first black ...' story
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Fittster said:
Merc fan said:
The only unrepresented demographic these days is the white male.
Name an area where white males are not represented? Clearly they run most of the companies in the FTSE.How about the MOBO awards too? There'd be an outcry if there were MOWO awards.
Jasandjules said:
Fittster said:
If no black men have achieved something (such as run as FTSE company) I think it is wise to ask why?
Why? To do so implies automatically that there must be a racist element in any such failure. That to me is in itself racist..... It reminds me a bit of Airplane - light reading - Jewish Sporting Legends. Perhaps it is due to non-jews imposing religious discrimination?
Nadyenka said:
Jimbeaux said:
Jasandjules said:
Jimbeaux said:
Jasandjules said:
Hopefully eminem will win a MOBO......
The white rapper?
Fittster said:
If a group (blacks/jews/women/gays/etc) isn't represented in an area it only seems sensible to ask what barriers maybe preventing them for going into a field. It maybe lack of interest, lack of facilities, poor family structures or racism.
I believe that white people are substantially unrepresented in the MOBO awards.. It isn't a lack of interest or facilities I'd suggest in the music industry. Any ideas what it could be?Jasandjules said:
Fittster said:
If a group (blacks/jews/women/gays/etc) isn't represented in an area it only seems sensible to ask what barriers maybe preventing them for going into a field. It maybe lack of interest, lack of facilities, poor family structures or racism.
I believe that white people are substantially unrepresented in the MOBO awards.. It isn't a lack of interest or facilities I'd suggest in the music industry. Any ideas what it could be?Should we give up on parts of society because 'Those types will never amount to anything, look at their track record'?
Fittster said:
Jasandjules said:
Fittster said:
If a group (blacks/jews/women/gays/etc) isn't represented in an area it only seems sensible to ask what barriers maybe preventing them for going into a field. It maybe lack of interest, lack of facilities, poor family structures or racism.
I believe that white people are substantially unrepresented in the MOBO awards.. It isn't a lack of interest or facilities I'd suggest in the music industry. Any ideas what it could be?Should we give up on parts of society because 'Those types will never amount to anything, look at their track record'?
Fire brigade discriminating against white men
Recruitment of black and minority ethnic police officers
More recruitment from ethnic minority groups would improve NHS service says report
turbobloke said:
Fittster said:
Jasandjules said:
Fittster said:
If a group (blacks/jews/women/gays/etc) isn't represented in an area it only seems sensible to ask what barriers maybe preventing them for going into a field. It maybe lack of interest, lack of facilities, poor family structures or racism.
I believe that white people are substantially unrepresented in the MOBO awards.. It isn't a lack of interest or facilities I'd suggest in the music industry. Any ideas what it could be?Should we give up on parts of society because 'Those types will never amount to anything, look at their track record'?
Fire brigade discriminating against white men
Recruitment of black and minority ethnic police officers
More recruitment from ethnic minority groups would improve NHS service says report
Racism still blights police despite post-Lawrence improvements
Secret government report finds racism flourishing in NHS
We can play that game all night. The question is how do we make the most of the human capital in the black community. Highlighting successful role models who have succeed in careers that place the emphasis on intellectual achievement seems harmless enough to me. “If he can do it I can do it” is a lot easier than “I’ll be the first to do it”.
Fittster said:
turbobloke said:
Fittster said:
Jasandjules said:
Fittster said:
If a group (blacks/jews/women/gays/etc) isn't represented in an area it only seems sensible to ask what barriers maybe preventing them for going into a field. It maybe lack of interest, lack of facilities, poor family structures or racism.
I believe that white people are substantially unrepresented in the MOBO awards.. It isn't a lack of interest or facilities I'd suggest in the music industry. Any ideas what it could be?Should we give up on parts of society because 'Those types will never amount to anything, look at their track record'?
Fire brigade discriminating against white men
Recruitment of black and minority ethnic police officers
More recruitment from ethnic minority groups would improve NHS service says report
Racism still blights police despite post-Lawrence improvements
Secret government report finds racism flourishing in NHS
We can play that game all night. The question is how do we make the most of the human capital in the black community. Highlighting successful role models who have succeed in careers that place the emphasis on intellectual achievement seems harmless enough to me. “If he can do it I can do it” is a lot easier than “I’ll be the first to do it”.
We make the most of human capital by allowing the best to succeed, not by favouritism under a politically correct name.
posterboy said:
If it's not important for the BBC to report this then why make a thread about it? Are you envious of the man "funkyrobot"?
Maybe you should take the time to read my original post properly. Where have I stated that I don't think this is important, and where is the hint of my apparent envy?When you have read the post properly please feel free to post your own relevant and meaningful comments. Oh sorry, it's gone 7.30. Shouldn't you hand your dad's computer and PH account back to him now? Surely it's bed time for you soon?
Fittster said:
turbobloke said:
We make the most of human capital by allowing the best to succeed, not by favouritism under a politically correct name.
Making the most of human capital isn't a winner takes all activity, it's about trying to ensure everyone achieves their potential.Away from employment and back to the law, which is way too far down the wrong path already. The Met writes about 'any incident which includes an allegation of racial motivation by any person. This is a far more inclusive criterion for what is investigated as a hate incident than the criteria used by most other police forces around the world.'
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This is basically political interference of the politically correct kind, i.e. nonsense, it does the police no favours and does society a disservice. Similar intereference in employment processes is self-defeating in the same way.
turbobloke said:
Fittster said:
turbobloke said:
Fittster said:
Jasandjules said:
Fittster said:
If a group (blacks/jews/women/gays/etc) isn't represented in an area it only seems sensible to ask what barriers maybe preventing them for going into a field. It maybe lack of interest, lack of facilities, poor family structures or racism.
I believe that white people are substantially unrepresented in the MOBO awards.. It isn't a lack of interest or facilities I'd suggest in the music industry. Any ideas what it could be?Should we give up on parts of society because 'Those types will never amount to anything, look at their track record'?
Fire brigade discriminating against white men
Recruitment of black and minority ethnic police officers
More recruitment from ethnic minority groups would improve NHS service says report
Racism still blights police despite post-Lawrence improvements
Secret government report finds racism flourishing in NHS
We can play that game all night. The question is how do we make the most of the human capital in the black community. Highlighting successful role models who have succeed in careers that place the emphasis on intellectual achievement seems harmless enough to me. “If he can do it I can do it” is a lot easier than “I’ll be the first to do it”.
We make the most of human capital by allowing the best to succeed, not by favouritism under a politically correct name.
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