Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12
Discussion
We still have a long way to go and I dont hold out much hope for the % of the population that benefit from SNP policy giving up their stick it to the English mentality switching to another party.
I thought the Greens said they would resign - are they still co-leaders? Seems none of them can say one thing and do that.
I thought the Greens said they would resign - are they still co-leaders? Seems none of them can say one thing and do that.
Janluke said:
So what's your predictions?
John Swinney elected, kiss and make up with the greens struggle on till the next election?
Nope.John Swinney elected, kiss and make up with the greens struggle on till the next election?
Swinney will serve two purposes as he is entirely expendable.
Firstly he's a palatable face for the pro-union parties to make deals with (the intentions of the past week always being for the SNP to get some clear air between themselves and the
For once I think there is someone in the SNP actually engaging their brain and thinking ahead. My now prescient prediction was that whoever takes over needs to get the party and the independence voters away from the idea that the SNP are wedded to the
Edited by Evercross on Tuesday 30th April 10:15
reddiesel said:
irc said:
Absolutely this. It's a cult. Where else would there be absolutely no leaks about a leader who liked a sleepy cuddle with female staffers?
Wheesht for indy.
Labour Party , Harold Wilson . Ask me another lolWheesht for indy.
Don't forget get the keep it quiet culture was so common it got its own name. Wheesht for indy.
irc said:
There must have been several dozen people at least who knew what was going on and as far as I can see not a single one leaked it anywhere outside the party and the inner group of civil servants.
Amazing innit. Almost like a carefully orchestrated scheme by a close knit group of people, with a vested interest to see him silenced and defenestrated by depriving him of his liberty.
I'm not sure we'll see the SNP and Scottish greens back together as it sounds like the greens have been having just as much internal issues as the SNP have been.
And weren't they removed as there was the likely threat of them leaving the agreement anyway?
The political one-upmanship with Westminster was most obvious through COVID, but has bizarrely continued through to the party political infighting as well!
The SNP are disagreeing with the SNP and greens, while the greens are disagreeing with the greens and the SNP
And weren't they removed as there was the likely threat of them leaving the agreement anyway?
The political one-upmanship with Westminster was most obvious through COVID, but has bizarrely continued through to the party political infighting as well!
The SNP are disagreeing with the SNP and greens, while the greens are disagreeing with the greens and the SNP
Ian974 said:
I'm not sure we'll see the SNP and Scottish greens back together as it sounds like the greens have been having just as much internal issues as the SNP have been.
And weren't they removed as there was the likely threat of them leaving the agreement anyway?
The political one-upmanship with Westminster was most obvious through COVID, but has bizarrely continued through to the party political infighting as well!
The SNP are disagreeing with the SNP and greens, while the greens are disagreeing with the greens and the SNP
That internecine warfare that we in here predicted many, many moons ago.And weren't they removed as there was the likely threat of them leaving the agreement anyway?
The political one-upmanship with Westminster was most obvious through COVID, but has bizarrely continued through to the party political infighting as well!
The SNP are disagreeing with the SNP and greens, while the greens are disagreeing with the greens and the SNP
It is now pretty obvious that the
It is a real shame though that our one professed "Green" isn't here to try and spin this, but then he aligned himself with aloof hypocrites because he was one himself.
Now I think of it, his ejection from PH was the true portent of things to come!!
reddiesel said:
For me the Greens in the UK at least are associated with the image of sandal wearing eccentrics that few working men take seriously . Like the Lib Dem’s they would willingly jump into any Political Allegiance that would lend them some gravitas . Opportunists .
The UK Greens are a very different concept compared to Scottish Greens.I think a great number of their list votes come from well meaning boomers thinking by giving them their list vote they can appease their conscience on the environment.
I’m not a Nationalist though I wished the project well on the basis that my fellow Scots far from stupid would soon see the reality especially if it wasn’t beneficial .
It annoys me to see the likes of Starmer gloating and rubbing his hands for Labour will do nothing for Scotland and never have done in my lifetime
It annoys me to see the likes of Starmer gloating and rubbing his hands for Labour will do nothing for Scotland and never have done in my lifetime
emicen said:
The UK Greens are a very different concept compared to Scottish Greens.
I think a great number of their list votes come from well meaning boomers thinking by giving them their list vote they can appease their conscience on the environment.
I've mentioned this many times. The UK (and International association of) Green Parties are formally dissociated from what calls itself the "Scottish Green Party" (which is why I refuse to refer to it as such).I think a great number of their list votes come from well meaning boomers thinking by giving them their list vote they can appease their conscience on the environment.
The Scottish contingent claimed it was their decision, but, in a style similar to the playground nonsense of the last week, it was a case of Harvie and Slater choosing to jump before they were ejected.
anonymoususer said:
Confusion may cost him credibility and a bald leader never really works out well.
Careful, that could be a hate crime - is being folically challenged a protected characteristic?Anyway, as our present-but-soon-to-be-departing First Minister sported a full head of hair & a lustrous beard, and was a complete disaster, and the previous First Minister sported a
ScotHill said:
Evercross said:
Now I think of it, his ejection from PH was the true portent of things to come!!
I missed that, what was that for? He always seemed fairly reasonable in his arguments, if very tenacious.Who would of thought from sa progressive green.
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