CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 19)

CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 19)

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cliffe_mafia

1,699 posts

253 months

Monday 20th May 2024
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J210 said:
This is the AZ clinical study if anyone is interested and wants to analyse it

https://www.clinicaltrialsregister.eu/ctr-search/t...
Have you seen any decent analysis of this yet?

This link is saying 2 jabs = 1/35 chance of a SERIOUS adverse event? eek

https://x.com/HopeRising19/status/1792405989733306...

Unreal

7,039 posts

40 months

Monday 20th May 2024
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More great press for our beloved NHS today.

I'm sure it was all historical and could never be repeated.

No conspiracy obvs.

grumbledoak

32,123 posts

248 months

Monday 20th May 2024
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cliffe_mafia said:
Have you seen any decent analysis of this yet?

This link is saying 2 jabs = 1/35 chance of a SERIOUS adverse event? eek

https://x.com/HopeRising19/status/1792405989733306...
Over 50 million doses given in the UK would be around 700,000 serious adverse events. Is that plausible?

Google says -
https://ifs.org.uk/publications/number-new-disabil...
New claimants per month doubled between summer 2021 and summer 2022 to 30,000 per month.

Gov says -
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/personal-...



scratchchin

Months and months at 60k new claims per month would be in the ball park.



isaldiri

21,914 posts

183 months

Monday 20th May 2024
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cliffe_mafia said:
J210 said:
This is the AZ clinical study if anyone is interested and wants to analyse it

https://www.clinicaltrialsregister.eu/ctr-search/t...
Have you seen any decent analysis of this yet?

This link is saying 2 jabs = 1/35 chance of a SERIOUS adverse event? eek

https://x.com/HopeRising19/status/1792405989733306...
Very conveniently, that twitter link chooses to exclude the note per the clinical trial data that says "" Different follow-up time between AZD1222 and Placebo groups (20223 versus 3893 participant years)."""

and also helpfully excludes the later secondary endpoint analysis that states

serious adverse events - placebo (4.33%), AZD1222 (4.81%)

Although the numbers involved then somewhat are at odds with the earlier numbers quoted so a slightly closer look at the full dataset might be required as obviously taking headline numbers without any context/underlying information is going to be rather misleading but I guess people on twitter probably don't really care too much about that either.

RSTurboPaul

11,989 posts

273 months

Tuesday 21st May 2024
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An interview with Andrew Bridgen MP:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcWtuNpgIsU




andyA700

3,452 posts

52 months

Tuesday 21st May 2024
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cliffe_mafia said:
J210 said:
This is the AZ clinical study if anyone is interested and wants to analyse it

https://www.clinicaltrialsregister.eu/ctr-search/t...
Have you seen any decent analysis of this yet?

This link is saying 2 jabs = 1/35 chance of a SERIOUS adverse event? eek

https://x.com/HopeRising19/status/1792405989733306...
Going by the ADR submissions (which only seem to go up to mid 2022), the results for Astra Zeneca batches look like this. I and many others are not included in those figures, because most of the GP's are steadfastly ignoring the fact that there are any problems with the vaccines.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/641...

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/641...

r3g

3,750 posts

39 months

Tuesday 21st May 2024
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andyA700 said:
Going by the ADR submissions (which only seem to go up to mid 2022), the results for Astra Zeneca batches look like this. I and many others are not included in those figures, because most of the GP's are steadfastly ignoring the fact that there are any problems with the vaccines.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/641...

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/641...
"It's all in your head! The blood tests show there's nothing wrong with you! Here's a prescription for anti-depressants to make you feel better".

r3g

3,750 posts

39 months

Tuesday 21st May 2024
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RSTurboPaul said:
An interview with Andrew Bridgen MP:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcWtuNpgIsU

An outstanding interview! Thanks for posting, Paul. It's very rare for me to say anything positive about a politician but Andrew Bridgen clearly has a lot of integrity and genuinely cares about the people and the dangerous path we are heading down with the WHO Treaty.

Jasandjules

71,020 posts

244 months

Tuesday 21st May 2024
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Elysium said:
And how do you think that sort of attitude will go down with people whose friends or family died due to COVID?

Because many did. Mostly elderly and vulnerable, but they still matter. People still cared about them.

A friend of mine informed me at the outset that this is the flu and will kill the elderly the same as the flu does each year. But an additional point made was that the IFR seemed lower than flu and oddly the young were more affected by flu than Covid. Said person is a consultant and was on the front line. I can't recall off the top of my head whether the ultimate IFR was higher or lower mind, but this was right at the outset of lockdown...

RemarkLima

2,657 posts

227 months

Tuesday 21st May 2024
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Interesting article in the FT about covid related convictions still being processed after restrictions ended.

https://www.ft.com/content/84dad3e3-cbe2-4dcb-a318...

Lotobear

7,932 posts

143 months

Tuesday 21st May 2024
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r3g said:
RSTurboPaul said:
An interview with Andrew Bridgen MP:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcWtuNpgIsU

An outstanding interview! Thanks for posting, Paul. It's very rare for me to say anything positive about a politician but Andrew Bridgen clearly has a lot of integrity and genuinely cares about the people and the dangerous path we are heading down with the WHO Treaty.

andyA700

3,452 posts

52 months

Tuesday 21st May 2024
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r3g said:
andyA700 said:
Going by the ADR submissions (which only seem to go up to mid 2022), the results for Astra Zeneca batches look like this. I and many others are not included in those figures, because most of the GP's are steadfastly ignoring the fact that there are any problems with the vaccines.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/641...

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/641...
"It's all in your head! The blood tests show there's nothing wrong with you! Here's a prescription for anti-depressants to make you feel better".
From what I have been hearing from other victims, that is not far from the mark with most and entirely, depressingly accurate for a few. One of the victims who I know, who is in a wheelchair, was told by a consultant, that going for long walks would help her.

Roderick Spode

3,623 posts

64 months

Tuesday 21st May 2024
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Infected Blood Scandal thread.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Potentially a many decade and multiple government cover-up of a long brewing scandal. It wryly amuses me to see one of our regular sealions on there, calling out government conspiracy and cover-up as unacceptable, and must never happen again laugh then comes in here and delivers the usual one-liners about tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists. Honestly, Carlsberg don't do irony, but if they did...

jameswills

3,583 posts

58 months

Tuesday 21st May 2024
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Roderick Spode said:
Infected Blood Scandal thread.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Potentially a many decade and multiple government cover-up of a long brewing scandal. It wryly amuses me to see one of our regular sealions on there, calling out government conspiracy and cover-up as unacceptable, and must never happen again laugh then comes in here and delivers the usual one-liners about tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists. Honestly, Carlsberg don't do irony, but if they did...
This is what is frustrating, no one can join the dots on anything anymore themselves. They are literally being shown that coverups and conspiracies have happened, are happening, and will always happen but until they appear on the BBC news or in an ITV documentary (Post office), it’s for the tin foil hat brigade.

This is the generation that after being warned and shown all the signs, they could still be led up to the gates of a concentration camp and they’d simply ask for the Wi-Fi code.


Jasandjules

71,020 posts

244 months

Tuesday 21st May 2024
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Roderick Spode said:
Infected Blood Scandal thread.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Potentially a many decade and multiple government cover-up of a long brewing scandal. It wryly amuses me to see one of our regular sealions on there, calling out government conspiracy and cover-up as unacceptable, and must never happen again laugh then comes in here and delivers the usual one-liners about tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists. Honestly, Carlsberg don't do irony, but if they did...
Ah yes see also the Post Office Scandal.... A real life conspiracy theory...

vixen1700

26,036 posts

285 months

Tuesday 21st May 2024
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From the other thread where history is beiing re-written:

"LOL...

Loads of videos of the US President and others claiming "you'll be dead in a year if your not get the vaccine"...

Never actually happened. You've made it up or more likely the videos you've been watching made it up and you swallowed it whole.

Thanks for demonstrating the thread title yet again but we didn't need you to.

Now flounce off back to your safe space where you can keep sharing your fantasy videos amongst yourselves."

hehe

grumbledoak

32,123 posts

248 months

Tuesday 21st May 2024
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Roderick Spode said:
Infected Blood Scandal thread.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Potentially a many decade and multiple government cover-up of a long brewing scandal. It wryly amuses me to see one of our regular sealions on there, calling out government conspiracy and cover-up as unacceptable, and must never happen again laugh then comes in here and delivers the usual one-liners about tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists. Honestly, Carlsberg don't do irony, but if they did...
And this is just one of many such scandals.

The government and the NHS both have a lengthy track record of harming the public through incompetence or simply callous disregard and then covering their backs until their victims are dead. Deny, Delay, Defend is the NHS' unofficial motto.

As for posters clamouring for justice for past wrongs while insisting that the same could never happen in the present? That's just "stupid is as stupid does". rolleyes



Rollin

6,234 posts

260 months

Tuesday 21st May 2024
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jameswills said:
Roderick Spode said:
Infected Blood Scandal thread.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Potentially a many decade and multiple government cover-up of a long brewing scandal. It wryly amuses me to see one of our regular sealions on there, calling out government conspiracy and cover-up as unacceptable, and must never happen again laugh then comes in here and delivers the usual one-liners about tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists. Honestly, Carlsberg don't do irony, but if they did...
This is what is frustrating, no one can join the dots on anything anymore themselves. They are literally being shown that coverups and conspiracies have happened, are happening, and will always happen but until they appear on the BBC news or in an ITV documentary (Post office), it’s for the tin foil hat brigade.

This is the generation that after being warned and shown all the signs, they could still be led up to the gates of a concentration camp and they’d simply ask for the Wi-Fi code.
Just so we can join the dots, how does the infected blood scandal fit in with your 'viruses don't exist' bks?

r3g

3,750 posts

39 months

Tuesday 21st May 2024
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vixen1700 said:
From the other thread where history is beiing re-written:

"LOL...

Loads of videos of the US President and others claiming "you'll be dead in a year if your not get the vaccine"...

Never actually happened. You've made it up or more likely the videos you've been watching made it up and you swallowed it whole.

Thanks for demonstrating the thread title yet again but we didn't need you to.

Now flounce off back to your safe space where you can keep sharing your fantasy videos amongst yourselves."

hehe
More re-writing of history is happening too.. "nobody ever said/believed x"

Notch 8 said:
Whoever believed that any vaccine for something like Covid would prevent transmission are on a whole new level of gullible.
and predictably ...

coldel said:
COVID thread >>>>>>>>>>>
Blown2CV said:
just get out and go to the covid thread and argue endlessly about the same old bullst.
Hahah! They don't like their BS pointing out, do they ? rofl

Edited by r3g on Tuesday 21st May 20:42

Boringvolvodriver

10,367 posts

58 months

Tuesday 21st May 2024
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^ - it somewhat beggars belief that with their superior intelligence they say that what Biden and others said was fake and didn’t happen.

Waiting to see any response to the links I posted but won’t hold my breath since they will probably say that the CNN website was faked!

And that evidence from the Scottish Covid Inquiry that John Campbell posted was wrong as well!

So much for open minds.