CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 19)
Discussion
cliffe_mafia said:
J210 said:
This is the AZ clinical study if anyone is interested and wants to analyse it
https://www.clinicaltrialsregister.eu/ctr-search/t...
Have you seen any decent analysis of this yet? https://www.clinicaltrialsregister.eu/ctr-search/t...
This link is saying 2 jabs = 1/35 chance of a SERIOUS adverse event?
https://x.com/HopeRising19/status/1792405989733306...
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/641...
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/641...
andyA700 said:
Going by the ADR submissions (which only seem to go up to mid 2022), the results for Astra Zeneca batches look like this. I and many others are not included in those figures, because most of the GP's are steadfastly ignoring the fact that there are any problems with the vaccines.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/641...
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/641...
"It's all in your head! The blood tests show there's nothing wrong with you! Here's a prescription for anti-depressants to make you feel better".https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/641...
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/641...
RSTurboPaul said:
An outstanding interview! Thanks for posting, Paul. It's very rare for me to say anything positive about a politician but Andrew Bridgen clearly has a lot of integrity and genuinely cares about the people and the dangerous path we are heading down with the WHO Treaty. Elysium said:
And how do you think that sort of attitude will go down with people whose friends or family died due to COVID?
Because many did. Mostly elderly and vulnerable, but they still matter. People still cared about them.
A friend of mine informed me at the outset that this is the flu and will kill the elderly the same as the flu does each year. But an additional point made was that the IFR seemed lower than flu and oddly the young were more affected by flu than Covid. Said person is a consultant and was on the front line. I can't recall off the top of my head whether the ultimate IFR was higher or lower mind, but this was right at the outset of lockdown...Because many did. Mostly elderly and vulnerable, but they still matter. People still cared about them.
Interesting article in the FT about covid related convictions still being processed after restrictions ended.
https://www.ft.com/content/84dad3e3-cbe2-4dcb-a318...
https://www.ft.com/content/84dad3e3-cbe2-4dcb-a318...
r3g said:
RSTurboPaul said:
An outstanding interview! Thanks for posting, Paul. It's very rare for me to say anything positive about a politician but Andrew Bridgen clearly has a lot of integrity and genuinely cares about the people and the dangerous path we are heading down with the WHO Treaty. r3g said:
andyA700 said:
Going by the ADR submissions (which only seem to go up to mid 2022), the results for Astra Zeneca batches look like this. I and many others are not included in those figures, because most of the GP's are steadfastly ignoring the fact that there are any problems with the vaccines.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/641...
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/641...
"It's all in your head! The blood tests show there's nothing wrong with you! Here's a prescription for anti-depressants to make you feel better".https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/641...
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/641...
Infected Blood Scandal thread.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Potentially a many decade and multiple government cover-up of a long brewing scandal. It wryly amuses me to see one of our regular sealions on there, calling out government conspiracy and cover-up as unacceptable, and must never happen again
then comes in here and delivers the usual one-liners about tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists. Honestly, Carlsberg don't do irony, but if they did...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Potentially a many decade and multiple government cover-up of a long brewing scandal. It wryly amuses me to see one of our regular sealions on there, calling out government conspiracy and cover-up as unacceptable, and must never happen again
then comes in here and delivers the usual one-liners about tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists. Honestly, Carlsberg don't do irony, but if they did...Roderick Spode said:
Infected Blood Scandal thread.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Potentially a many decade and multiple government cover-up of a long brewing scandal. It wryly amuses me to see one of our regular sealions on there, calling out government conspiracy and cover-up as unacceptable, and must never happen again then comes in here and delivers the usual one-liners about tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists. Honestly, Carlsberg don't do irony, but if they did...
This is what is frustrating, no one can join the dots on anything anymore themselves. They are literally being shown that coverups and conspiracies have happened, are happening, and will always happen but until they appear on the BBC news or in an ITV documentary (Post office), it’s for the tin foil hat brigade. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Potentially a many decade and multiple government cover-up of a long brewing scandal. It wryly amuses me to see one of our regular sealions on there, calling out government conspiracy and cover-up as unacceptable, and must never happen again
then comes in here and delivers the usual one-liners about tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists. Honestly, Carlsberg don't do irony, but if they did...This is the generation that after being warned and shown all the signs, they could still be led up to the gates of a concentration camp and they’d simply ask for the Wi-Fi code.
Roderick Spode said:
Infected Blood Scandal thread.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Potentially a many decade and multiple government cover-up of a long brewing scandal. It wryly amuses me to see one of our regular sealions on there, calling out government conspiracy and cover-up as unacceptable, and must never happen again then comes in here and delivers the usual one-liners about tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists. Honestly, Carlsberg don't do irony, but if they did...
Ah yes see also the Post Office Scandal.... A real life conspiracy theory...https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Potentially a many decade and multiple government cover-up of a long brewing scandal. It wryly amuses me to see one of our regular sealions on there, calling out government conspiracy and cover-up as unacceptable, and must never happen again
then comes in here and delivers the usual one-liners about tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists. Honestly, Carlsberg don't do irony, but if they did...From the other thread where history is beiing re-written:
"LOL...
Loads of videos of the US President and others claiming "you'll be dead in a year if your not get the vaccine"...
Never actually happened. You've made it up or more likely the videos you've been watching made it up and you swallowed it whole.
Thanks for demonstrating the thread title yet again but we didn't need you to.
Now flounce off back to your safe space where you can keep sharing your fantasy videos amongst yourselves."
"LOL...
Loads of videos of the US President and others claiming "you'll be dead in a year if your not get the vaccine"...
Never actually happened. You've made it up or more likely the videos you've been watching made it up and you swallowed it whole.
Thanks for demonstrating the thread title yet again but we didn't need you to.
Now flounce off back to your safe space where you can keep sharing your fantasy videos amongst yourselves."
Roderick Spode said:
Infected Blood Scandal thread.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Potentially a many decade and multiple government cover-up of a long brewing scandal. It wryly amuses me to see one of our regular sealions on there, calling out government conspiracy and cover-up as unacceptable, and must never happen again then comes in here and delivers the usual one-liners about tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists. Honestly, Carlsberg don't do irony, but if they did...
And this is just one of many such scandals. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Potentially a many decade and multiple government cover-up of a long brewing scandal. It wryly amuses me to see one of our regular sealions on there, calling out government conspiracy and cover-up as unacceptable, and must never happen again
then comes in here and delivers the usual one-liners about tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists. Honestly, Carlsberg don't do irony, but if they did...The government and the NHS both have a lengthy track record of harming the public through incompetence or simply callous disregard and then covering their backs until their victims are dead. Deny, Delay, Defend is the NHS' unofficial motto.
As for posters clamouring for justice for past wrongs while insisting that the same could never happen in the present? That's just "stupid is as stupid does".
jameswills said:
Roderick Spode said:
Infected Blood Scandal thread.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Potentially a many decade and multiple government cover-up of a long brewing scandal. It wryly amuses me to see one of our regular sealions on there, calling out government conspiracy and cover-up as unacceptable, and must never happen again then comes in here and delivers the usual one-liners about tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists. Honestly, Carlsberg don't do irony, but if they did...
This is what is frustrating, no one can join the dots on anything anymore themselves. They are literally being shown that coverups and conspiracies have happened, are happening, and will always happen but until they appear on the BBC news or in an ITV documentary (Post office), it’s for the tin foil hat brigade. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Potentially a many decade and multiple government cover-up of a long brewing scandal. It wryly amuses me to see one of our regular sealions on there, calling out government conspiracy and cover-up as unacceptable, and must never happen again
then comes in here and delivers the usual one-liners about tinfoil hatters and conspiracy theorists. Honestly, Carlsberg don't do irony, but if they did...This is the generation that after being warned and shown all the signs, they could still be led up to the gates of a concentration camp and they’d simply ask for the Wi-Fi code.
ks?vixen1700 said:
From the other thread where history is beiing re-written:
"LOL...
Loads of videos of the US President and others claiming "you'll be dead in a year if your not get the vaccine"...
Never actually happened. You've made it up or more likely the videos you've been watching made it up and you swallowed it whole.
Thanks for demonstrating the thread title yet again but we didn't need you to.
Now flounce off back to your safe space where you can keep sharing your fantasy videos amongst yourselves."
More re-writing of history is happening too.. "nobody ever said/believed x" "LOL...
Loads of videos of the US President and others claiming "you'll be dead in a year if your not get the vaccine"...
Never actually happened. You've made it up or more likely the videos you've been watching made it up and you swallowed it whole.
Thanks for demonstrating the thread title yet again but we didn't need you to.
Now flounce off back to your safe space where you can keep sharing your fantasy videos amongst yourselves."
Notch 8 said:
Whoever believed that any vaccine for something like Covid would prevent transmission are on a whole new level of gullible.
and predictably ... coldel said:
COVID thread >>>>>>>>>>>
Blown2CV said:
just get out and go to the covid thread and argue endlessly about the same old bullst.
Hahah! They don't like their BS pointing out, do they ? t.
Edited by r3g on Tuesday 21st May 20:42
^ - it somewhat beggars belief that with their superior intelligence they say that what Biden and others said was fake and didn’t happen.
Waiting to see any response to the links I posted but won’t hold my breath since they will probably say that the CNN website was faked!
And that evidence from the Scottish Covid Inquiry that John Campbell posted was wrong as well!
So much for open minds.
Waiting to see any response to the links I posted but won’t hold my breath since they will probably say that the CNN website was faked!
And that evidence from the Scottish Covid Inquiry that John Campbell posted was wrong as well!
So much for open minds.
Ah well, the 2 threads are clearly just doomed to go about in self congratulatory circle jerk of commending each other about how 'bad' the other side with the most fervent of each thread ever more convinced that they are right and anyone who has the temerity to disagree with them are 'the bad guys'. Story of today's world I suppose.
isaldiri said:
Ah well, the 2 threads are clearly just doomed to go about in self congratulatory circle jerk of commending each other about how 'bad' the other side with the most fervent of each thread ever more convinced that they are right and anyone who has the temerity to disagree with them are 'the bad guys'. Story of today's world I suppose.
Can’t disagree with that observation - happens all the time on Twitter as well - the idea of having a sensible discussion and being open to other ideas or possibilities is so last century.isaldiri said:
Ah well, the 2 threads are clearly just doomed to go about in self congratulatory circle jerk of commending each other about how 'bad' the other side with the most fervent of each thread ever more convinced that they are right and anyone who has the temerity to disagree with them are 'the bad guys'. Story of today's world I suppose.
No the story of today's world is that when a post is made that others disagree with, there tends not to be a desire to offer an opposing sensible view with reasoning or logic. But a meme is used. Or a flounce away. The art of actual debate is lost for so many now and the ability to be polite to those with opposing views. I know not why, too much internet and not human interaction perhaps?
Jasandjules said:
isaldiri said:
Ah well, the 2 threads are clearly just doomed to go about in self congratulatory circle jerk of commending each other about how 'bad' the other side with the most fervent of each thread ever more convinced that they are right and anyone who has the temerity to disagree with them are 'the bad guys'. Story of today's world I suppose.
No the story of today's world is that when a post is made that others disagree with, there tends not to be a desire to offer an opposing sensible view with reasoning or logic. But a meme is used. Or a flounce away. The art of actual debate is lost for so many now and the ability to be polite to those with opposing views. I know not why, too much internet and not human interaction perhaps?
Jasandjules said:
Elysium said:
And how do you think that sort of attitude will go down with people whose friends or family died due to COVID?
Because many did. Mostly elderly and vulnerable, but they still matter. People still cared about them.
A friend of mine informed me at the outset that this is the flu and will kill the elderly the same as the flu does each year. But an additional point made was that the IFR seemed lower than flu and oddly the young were more affected by flu than Covid. Said person is a consultant and was on the front line. I can't recall off the top of my head whether the ultimate IFR was higher or lower mind, but this was right at the outset of lockdown...Because many did. Mostly elderly and vulnerable, but they still matter. People still cared about them.
I don’t think this was because the virus was inherently more dangerous. I suspect it was more because the vulnerable population had no prior immunity.
I’m using the past tense here because everyone has now been exposed to COVID and because of the immunity most of us have it is now closer to a heavy cold than the flu.
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