Brexit - was it worth it? (Vol. 4)
Discussion
chrispmartha said:
bad company said:
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For me the rules, costs and ambitions of the EU became too much hence voted leave.
How did those things actively impact you in your daily life For me the rules, costs and ambitions of the EU became too much hence voted leave.
UK defence spending doesn’t impact my daily life but it needs revision imo.
bad company said:
chrispmartha said:
bad company said:
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For me the rules, costs and ambitions of the EU became too much hence voted leave.
How did those things actively impact you in your daily life For me the rules, costs and ambitions of the EU became too much hence voted leave.
UK defence spending doesn’t impact my daily life but it needs revision imo.
What Rules did you not like? As those would likely to impact your daily life
CraigyMc said:
Dunno how anyone can say this with certainty.
Lets say there's a war and part of the UK getting involved protecting the EU is that a deal needs to happen. Then what would the terms be?
The future is simply not written yet.
Have you not heard of NATO?Lets say there's a war and part of the UK getting involved protecting the EU is that a deal needs to happen. Then what would the terms be?
The future is simply not written yet.
If any NATO EU member is attacked, we will get involved, irrespective of some political talking shop in Brussels.
Completely worth it. Imagine being in a trading block that writes official letters complaining because their flag was not allowed to be waved at a music event. 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4dd9lzx02o.a...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4dd9lzx02o.a...
Vanden Saab said:
Completely worth it. Imagine being in a trading block that writes official letters complaining because their flag was not allowed to be waved at a music event.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4dd9lzx02o.a...
Imagine living in a country where a Minister insists Disney painting are taken down in a children's asylum centre.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4dd9lzx02o.a...
Mrr T said:
Vanden Saab said:
Completely worth it. Imagine being in a trading block that writes official letters complaining because their flag was not allowed to be waved at a music event.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4dd9lzx02o.a...
Imagine living in a country where a Minister insists Disney painting are taken down in a children's asylum centre.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4dd9lzx02o.a...
Vanden Saab said:
Mrr T said:
Vanden Saab said:
Completely worth it. Imagine being in a trading block that writes official letters complaining because their flag was not allowed to be waved at a music event.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4dd9lzx02o.a...
Imagine living in a country where a Minister insists Disney painting are taken down in a children's asylum centre.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4dd9lzx02o.a...
CivicDuties said:
blueg33 said:
We had beneficial terms that were thrown away with Brexit, we wouldn't get those if we rejoin.
Rejoining in any form would be a net benefit.But it'll be a negotiation when it inevitably happens, based on whatever global circumstances exist at that point in the future. What we had before is irrelevant, and shouldn't be used as a benchmark.
They are numpties at that stuff, they do not seem to understand the concept of a "Win-Win" deal & that its the only one that really works in the long term. We saw plenty of evidence of that with our own dealings with them
Uk misses out. New Intel plant headed to Ireland, by the looks of it.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/intel-nears-...
M.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/intel-nears-...
M.
Wombat3 said:
CivicDuties said:
blueg33 said:
We had beneficial terms that were thrown away with Brexit, we wouldn't get those if we rejoin.
Rejoining in any form would be a net benefit.But it'll be a negotiation when it inevitably happens, based on whatever global circumstances exist at that point in the future. What we had before is irrelevant, and shouldn't be used as a benchmark.
They are numpties at that stuff, they do not seem to understand the concept of a "Win-Win" deal & that its the only one that really works in the long term. We saw plenty of evidence of that with our own dealings with them
Mortarboard said:
Uk misses out. New Intel plant headed to Ireland, by the looks of it.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/intel-nears-...
M.
Intel ireland is their biggest manufacturing base outside of the USA, has been for years.https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/intel-nears-...
M.
Pretty slim chance of that heading to the UK either way, they'd already put $30bn into Leixlip where they already have 3 major fabs.
Mortarboard said:
Uk misses out. New Intel plant headed to Ireland, by the looks of it.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/intel-nears-...
M.
Missed out, the decision was made in 2022 this is just about who is building the facility. Did you not actually read the story you posted?https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/intel-nears-...
M.
CivicDuties said:
Wombat3 said:
CivicDuties said:
blueg33 said:
We had beneficial terms that were thrown away with Brexit, we wouldn't get those if we rejoin.
Rejoining in any form would be a net benefit.But it'll be a negotiation when it inevitably happens, based on whatever global circumstances exist at that point in the future. What we had before is irrelevant, and shouldn't be used as a benchmark.
They are numpties at that stuff, they do not seem to understand the concept of a "Win-Win" deal & that its the only one that really works in the long term. We saw plenty of evidence of that with our own dealings with them
k off, that's a stupid idea" I thinkI was more referencing the behaviour of the EU post 2016.
Edited by Wombat3 on Tuesday 14th May 19:11
Wombat3 said:
As if we should be grateful for the fact that we avoided getting involved in irreversible fiscal & political integration by calling it an "opt out". It was more of a "no, fk off, that's a stupid idea" I think
I was more referencing the behaviour of the EU post 2016.
What? A club looking after the interests of its members? As opposed to those of a former member that spent its political capital hurling brickbats? Colour me surprised.k off, that's a stupid idea" I thinkI was more referencing the behaviour of the EU post 2016.
Edited by Wombat3 on Tuesday 14th May 19:11
Riff Raff said:
Wombat3 said:
As if we should be grateful for the fact that we avoided getting involved in irreversible fiscal & political integration by calling it an "opt out". It was more of a "no, fk off, that's a stupid idea" I think
I was more referencing the behaviour of the EU post 2016.
What? A club looking after the interests of its members? As opposed to those of a former member that spent its political capital hurling brickbats? Colour me surprised.k off, that's a stupid idea" I thinkI was more referencing the behaviour of the EU post 2016.
Edited by Wombat3 on Tuesday 14th May 19:11
The EU does not think like that. The "project" is paramount, Its very one-dimensional.
(If they were genuinely offended by some of the questions that were being asked then maybe they need to grow a thicker skin. The problem was more likely a case of a few uncomfortable home truths coming home to roost).
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